Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting - One Week Tonight

2024-02-27 Thread Andrew via dorset

On 27/02/2024 10:30, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Peter emailed the list saying it looked like last month's meeting didn't
happen.  Andrew told me privately that he turned up, no one else did, so
he left.  When I popped in later, Clive, Hamish, and Hugh were present.


Yes, I was there. I was told that I had to wait. After a few minutes I 
re-loaded the page and was told the same thing. I was there from around 
20:00 until after Peter's e-mail as I saw that come in while I was 
waiting. It didn't say if there was anyone else there or not, or give 
any useful information at all. I think was there for 20 minutes and 
nothing happened.


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Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting - One Week Tonight

2024-02-27 Thread Hugh Frater
It wasn’t so much that I was unaware of the changes, it was the fact that
Jitsi would not show others waiting in the lobby. If we were all sat there
waiting, and we could see each other, then I would have signed in with one
of my many suitable accounts.

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On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 11:14, CA Wills  wrote:

> I tried at least 3 times before finally getting in and we spoke about
> the 'new' system. We closed early as we did not know that people had
> been waiting! As Hugh said it was not helpful that we did not know
> things had changed.
>
> In future I'll try to join the meeting later.
> On 27/02/2024 10:49, Hugh Frater wrote:
> > Ralph, well remembered... I was going to post a message explaining the
> same
> > shortly after last month's meeting but forgot.
> >
> > It would seem that Jitsi will not notify others in the lobby when
> > lobbyMembersWaiting >1, which seems a bit weird. Everyone just sits there
> > thinking they are the only ones waiting for a moderator.
> >
> > That almost certainly explains what happened last month.
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 10:30, Ralph Corderoy
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Terry,
> >>
> >>> Unless the forecast changes significantly between now and then, I'll
> >>> be going to the Midlands next week, so I probably won't be around
> >>> again.
> >> Peter emailed the list saying it looked like last month's meeting didn't
> >> happen.  Andrew told me privately that he turned up, no one else did, so
> >> he left.  When I popped in later, Clive, Hamish, and Hugh were present.
> >>
> >> My guess is Jitsi's new-ish requirement for a moderator to open a ‘room’
> >> by authenticating delayed the start of the meeting.  Meanwhile, everyone
> >> is kept waiting for a moderator to arrive and some give up before he
> >> does.
> >>
> >> Presumably, you're are normally the moderator when you attend and so
> >> it's a surprise to the others that it's required and one of them has to
> >> finally take it on for the meeting to start?
> >>
> >> I thought by raising the issue, other attendees might be more aware of
> >> the requirement and step in when you're not there.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers, Ralph.
> >>
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Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting - One Week Tonight

2024-02-27 Thread CA Wills
I tried at least 3 times before finally getting in and we spoke about 
the 'new' system. We closed early as we did not know that people had 
been waiting! As Hugh said it was not helpful that we did not know 
things had changed.


In future I'll try to join the meeting later.
On 27/02/2024 10:49, Hugh Frater wrote:

Ralph, well remembered... I was going to post a message explaining the same
shortly after last month's meeting but forgot.

It would seem that Jitsi will not notify others in the lobby when
lobbyMembersWaiting >1, which seems a bit weird. Everyone just sits there
thinking they are the only ones waiting for a moderator.

That almost certainly explains what happened last month.

Hugh

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 10:30, Ralph Corderoy  wrote:


Hi Terry,


Unless the forecast changes significantly between now and then, I'll
be going to the Midlands next week, so I probably won't be around
again.

Peter emailed the list saying it looked like last month's meeting didn't
happen.  Andrew told me privately that he turned up, no one else did, so
he left.  When I popped in later, Clive, Hamish, and Hugh were present.

My guess is Jitsi's new-ish requirement for a moderator to open a ‘room’
by authenticating delayed the start of the meeting.  Meanwhile, everyone
is kept waiting for a moderator to arrive and some give up before he
does.

Presumably, you're are normally the moderator when you attend and so
it's a surprise to the others that it's required and one of them has to
finally take it on for the meeting to start?

I thought by raising the issue, other attendees might be more aware of
the requirement and step in when you're not there.

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Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting - One Week Tonight

2024-02-27 Thread Terry Coles

This should have gone to the list and not straight to Ralph.

On 27/02/2024 10:43, Terry Coles wrote:

On 27/02/2024 10:30, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Peter emailed the list saying it looked like last month's meeting didn't
happen.  Andrew told me privately that he turned up, no one else did, so
he left.  When I popped in later, Clive, Hamish, and Hugh were present.

My guess is Jitsi's new-ish requirement for a moderator to open a ‘room’
by authenticating delayed the start of the meeting.  Meanwhile, everyone
is kept waiting for a moderator to arrive and some give up before he
does.

Presumably, you're are normally the moderator when you attend and so
it's a surprise to the others that it's required and one of them has to
finally take it on for the meeting to start?

I thought by raising the issue, other attendees might be more aware of
the requirement and step in when you're not there.


I've certainly opened the room on at least one occasion since the new
requirement was brought in.


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Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting - One Week Tonight

2024-02-27 Thread Hugh Frater
Ralph, well remembered... I was going to post a message explaining the same
shortly after last month's meeting but forgot.

It would seem that Jitsi will not notify others in the lobby when
lobbyMembersWaiting >1, which seems a bit weird. Everyone just sits there
thinking they are the only ones waiting for a moderator.

That almost certainly explains what happened last month.

Hugh

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 10:30, Ralph Corderoy  wrote:

> Hi Terry,
>
> > Unless the forecast changes significantly between now and then, I'll
> > be going to the Midlands next week, so I probably won't be around
> > again.
>
> Peter emailed the list saying it looked like last month's meeting didn't
> happen.  Andrew told me privately that he turned up, no one else did, so
> he left.  When I popped in later, Clive, Hamish, and Hugh were present.
>
> My guess is Jitsi's new-ish requirement for a moderator to open a ‘room’
> by authenticating delayed the start of the meeting.  Meanwhile, everyone
> is kept waiting for a moderator to arrive and some give up before he
> does.
>
> Presumably, you're are normally the moderator when you attend and so
> it's a surprise to the others that it's required and one of them has to
> finally take it on for the meeting to start?
>
> I thought by raising the issue, other attendees might be more aware of
> the requirement and step in when you're not there.
>
> --
> Cheers, Ralph.
>
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Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting - One Week Tonight

2024-02-27 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry,

> Unless the forecast changes significantly between now and then, I'll
> be going to the Midlands next week, so I probably won't be around
> again.

Peter emailed the list saying it looked like last month's meeting didn't
happen.  Andrew told me privately that he turned up, no one else did, so
he left.  When I popped in later, Clive, Hamish, and Hugh were present.

My guess is Jitsi's new-ish requirement for a moderator to open a ‘room’
by authenticating delayed the start of the meeting.  Meanwhile, everyone
is kept waiting for a moderator to arrive and some give up before he
does.

Presumably, you're are normally the moderator when you attend and so
it's a surprise to the others that it's required and one of them has to
finally take it on for the meeting to start?

I thought by raising the issue, other attendees might be more aware of
the requirement and step in when you're not there.

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[Dorset] Next Meeting - One Week Tonight

2024-02-27 Thread Terry Coles

Hi,

The next Meeting will be one week tonight; Tuesday, 2024-03-05 at 20:00
using Jitsi.

Details are as for the previous meetings and will be reposted on the day.

Unless the forecast changes significantly between now and then, I'll be
going to the Midlands next week, so I probably won't be around again.

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