Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-24 Thread Peter Merchant
On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 22:28 +0100, Chris Dennis wrote:
 On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote:
 
  Thought you might like this
 
  http://test-ipv6.com/
 
 Can anyone recommend any books on IPv6?
 
 I've found this webpage to be useful, although a lot of it is from a 
 Windows point of view:
 
  
 http://yorickdowne.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/ipv6-at-home-or-office-part-4-0-tunnelbroker-net-ipv6-routers/
 
 cheers
 
 Chris
 
I thought that I had something on IPv6, but cannot find it, either
electronically or in the Filing Cabinet.   Sorry.

Best I could do was http://www.6uk.org.uk/


Peter




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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-23 Thread Chris Dennis

On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote:


Thought you might like this

http://test-ipv6.com/


Can anyone recommend any books on IPv6?

I've found this webpage to be useful, although a lot of it is from a 
Windows point of view:



http://yorickdowne.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/ipv6-at-home-or-office-part-4-0-tunnelbroker-net-ipv6-routers/

cheers

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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-22 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:53:11 +0100, cgden...@btinternet.com said:

 I know there's plain ip6tables, but can people recommend an easy-to-use 
 system for maintaining firewalls?

Shorewall. Not a GUI, but it does an excellent job for both IPv4 and IPv6.

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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-22 Thread Chris Dennis

On 22/04/11 01:30, Andrew Morgan wrote:

On 21/04/11 20:21, Chris Dennis wrote:

I've just had a couple of emails from Jason Fesler who runs
test-ipv6.com, and he says:

\
Unless you're trying to reach sites that are IPv6-only and have no
way to be reached via IPv4, I'd consider disabling teredo and miredo.
You're intentionally prefering complex setups that can take your
packets through further routes, and through locations you have nobody
to complain to when they break.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457011.aspx


Is that true? Do teredo/miredo make connections more complicated for
IPv4 addresses?


If your only IPv6 connection is via Teredo, and if the site you are
trying to reach supports both IPv4 and IPv6, and if your software
prefers IPv6 over IPv4 then yes, it will send the connection via Teredo
rather than directly by IPv4.

If the site is IPv4 only then no, it won't be more complicated. If the
site is IPv6 only then it is via Teredo or nothing.


Right, that makes sense.  Thank you.

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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready?

2011-04-21 Thread David Wilkinson

On 20/04/11 12:42, Chris Dennis wrote:

On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote:


Thought you might like this

http://test-ipv6.com/


My ISP (UKFSN / Entanet) seems to be ready, but how do I actually get 
an IPV6 connection?


Can anyone recommend a suitable wifi-enabled ADSL router for IPV6?

cheers

Chris

There looks to be a couple listed on here - 
http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/Broadband_CPE


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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-21 Thread David Wilkinson

On 20/04/11 00:27, Robert Bronsdon wrote:


Is there any reason the DNS has to come from your ISP? Could you not 
run your own local IPv6 enabled DNS server?





There is no reason it has to be your ISP's DNS servers, you can run your 
own.


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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-21 Thread Chris Dennis

On 19/04/11 23:47, Andrew Morgan wrote:


In Ubuntu (and presumably Debian?) IPv6 support is as easy as 'apt-get
install miredo'. It seems to be made of magic as it sets its self up
automatically in seconds. I've done this on all of my Linux machines now.



As IPv6 doesn't do NAT, miredo gives you an IPv6 address which is 
visible to the whole world, and therefore needs fire-walling.


I know there's plain ip6tables, but can people recommend an easy-to-use 
system for maintaining firewalls?  I've been using firehol, but the 
'latest news' on its web-page was in 2008, and it doesn't do IPv6.


cheers

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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-21 Thread Andrew Morgan

On 21/04/11 20:21, Chris Dennis wrote:
I've just had a couple of emails from Jason Fesler who runs 
test-ipv6.com, and he says:

\
Unless you're trying to reach sites that are IPv6-only and have no 
way to be reached via IPv4, I'd consider disabling teredo and 
miredo.  You're intentionally prefering complex setups that can take 
your packets through further routes, and through locations you have 
nobody to complain to when they break.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457011.aspx


Is that true?  Do teredo/miredo make connections more complicated for 
IPv4 addresses?


If your only IPv6 connection is via Teredo, and if the site you are 
trying to reach supports both IPv4 and IPv6, and if your software 
prefers IPv6 over IPv4 then yes, it will send the connection via Teredo 
rather than directly by IPv4.


If the site is IPv4 only then no, it won't be more complicated. If the 
site is IPv6 only then it is via Teredo or nothing.


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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-20 Thread StarLion
 Well, my ISP and router don't support IPv6 but I discovered Miredo (Teredo)
 a while ago. It doesn't seem to work if both ends are using Teredo behind
 IPv4 NAT, but other than that it does allow you to connect to the IPv6
 internet.

 In Ubuntu (and presumably Debian?) IPv6 support is as easy as 'apt-get
 install miredo'. It seems to be made of magic as it sets its self up
 automatically in seconds. I've done this on all of my Linux machines now.

 With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't support
 IPv6.


Haven't looked into Miredo on my Arch Linux, but I did come across
this article on the Arch Wiki that some may also find useful.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPv6_-_6in4_Tunnel
I haven't had the chance to try it myself yet, but will do just as
soon as my kernel finishes compiling.

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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready?

2011-04-20 Thread Andrew Morgan

On 20/04/11 12:42, Chris Dennis wrote:

Can anyone recommend a suitable wifi-enabled ADSL router for IPV6?
The only one I've used was a 2Wire router, a long time ago. I think BT 
were doing an IPv6 test and I was surprised to find I got a real IPv6 
address on it.


Your best bet might be something which you can run OpenWRT on. Only 
trouble is their list of supported hardware doesn't seem to include 
anything which does ADSL, so you would have to get an ethernet (or 
'cable') router and an ethernet ADSL modem.
I've got a D-Link DIR-825 running OpenWRT and it was fairly easy to 
install. I don't have it connected to ADSL though.


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[Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-19 Thread Tim

Thought you might like this

http://test-ipv6.com/

Tim

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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-19 Thread Peter Merchant
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 22:49 +0100, Tim wrote:
 Thought you might like this
 
 http://test-ipv6.com/
 
 Tim

Your IPv4 address on the public internet appears to be 78.147.176.105

No IPv6 address detected [more info]

World IPv6 day is June 8th, 2011. No problems are anticipated for you
with this browser, at this location. [more info]

You appear to be able to browse the IPv4 internet only. You will not be
able to reach IPv6-only sites.

Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have no access to
the IPv6 internet, or is not configured to use it. This may in the
future restrict your ability to reach IPv6-only sites. [more info]


Your readiness scores
10/10   for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer both
IPv4 and IPv6
0/10for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are forced
to go IPv6 only

So much for TalkTalk.

Peter M.


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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-19 Thread David Wilkinson

On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote:

Thought you might like this

http://test-ipv6.com/

Tim

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I am ready and have been for a while :)

If you can't get IPv6 from your ISP you can always get it via a tunnel 
broker, I have used Hurricane Electric's before - 
http://www.tunnelbroker.net/




Your IPv4 address on the public internet appears to be 84.45.118.86

Your IPv6 address on the public internet appears to be 
2001:9d8:face:2::1:dd05


7/8 tests run

World IPv6 day is June 8th, 2011. No problems are anticipated for you 
with this browser, at this location. [more info]


Congratulations! You appear to have both IPv4 and IPv6 internet working. 
If a publisher publishes to IPv6, your browser will connect using IPv6. 
Your browser prefers IPv6 over IPv4 when given the choice (this is the 
expected outcome).


Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have IPv6 internet 
access.

Your readiness scores
10/10for your IPv4 stability and readiness, when publishers offer 
both IPv4 and IPv6
10/10for your IPv6 stability and readiness, when publishers are 
forced to go IPv6 only


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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-19 Thread Andrew Morgan

On 19/04/11 22:49, Tim wrote:

Thought you might like this

http://test-ipv6.com/



Well, my ISP and router don't support IPv6 but I discovered Miredo 
(Teredo) a while ago. It doesn't seem to work if both ends are using 
Teredo behind IPv4 NAT, but other than that it does allow you to connect 
to the IPv6 internet.


In Ubuntu (and presumably Debian?) IPv6 support is as easy as 'apt-get 
install miredo'. It seems to be made of magic as it sets its self up 
automatically in seconds. I've done this on all of my Linux machines now.


With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't 
support IPv6.


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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-19 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi Andrew,

 With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't
 support IPv6.

Do you get that elusive last point if you switch to 8.8.4.4 and/or
8.8.8.8?

Cheers,
Ralph.


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Re: [Dorset] IPv6 day are you ready

2011-04-19 Thread Andrew Morgan

On 20/04/11 00:07, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Andrew,


With Miredo I got 10/10 and 9/10 because my ISP's DNS server doesn't
support IPv6.

Do you get that elusive last point if you switch to 8.8.4.4 and/or
8.8.8.8?

No, still 9/10.

According to the info on the test which fails:
*Confirmation:* |dig  .v6ns.test-ipv6.com| should return back an 
 record without errors.

This returns SERVFAIL when using 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 as DNS servers.

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