Re: [Dorset] Can I recover a Hard disk?

2018-04-15 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Ian,

> PS, longest serving disk in my RAID: 61068 hours has no pending
> sectors or re-allocations.

Damn, second!  :-)

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAGSVALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   PO--CK   100   100   005-0
  9 Power_On_Hours  -O--C-   001   001   000-60678
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK   100   100   000-0

$ units 60678hours time
6 year + 336 day + 19 hr + 7 min + 24.15193 sec

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] Can I recover a Hard disk?

2018-04-15 Thread Ian Morris
Perhaps run

smartctl  -C /dev/sd -a

to see how long an extended check might take, plan to leave PC on for a
little over this time and run an extended test:

smartctl -t long /dev/sd

monitor status with

smartctl  -l selftest /dev/sd

PS, longest serving disk in my RAID: 61068 hours has no pending
sectors or re-allocations.



On 15/04/18 10:08, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:
> Got it sorted!  I used UBCD (Ultimate Boot CD) and it's copy of
> Gparted to  attempt a recover of the disc, which showed me that it had
> been a Windows system. I was then able to format the whole disk as NTFS.
>
> For some reason it had not wanted to know Ubuntu, but now I was able
> to install Fedora 27 (KDE) which is up and  running. Yesterday once I
> got it into a state where the head was continuously seeking back and
> forth (You know that sound when you hear it).
>
> This morning I was unable to run fsck on it because of something to do
> with LVM, but  UBCD has a disk test facility that I have run. Yes
> there are some faults on the disk, and some parts that are
> 'pre-failure', but it shows that it has had 19000 hours of use.
>
> Conclusion: Success, and the disk will be OK for play, but don't be
> surprised if it continues to degrade.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> On 05/04/18 19:41, Hamish MB wrote:
>> Sounds perplexing...
>>
>> You could try gparted's create partition table option (in one of the
>> menus).
>>
>> Beyond that, maybe it's better to give up if its being that much of a
>> pain - it may just be broken.
>>
>> Hamish
>>
>>
>> On 05/04/18 17:46, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:
>>> I was given an old Dell with a 250GB MAxtor SATA disk that couldn't be
>>> found by the live disks that I tried. Eventually I loaded up a rescue
>>> disk and gparted and discovered that the disk had an invalid
>>> partition. I was unable to format it as Ext2, 3 or 4, But I did format
>>> it as 2 FAT32 partitions and then it was recognised in my other
>>> computer. I have tried again to get it to format as Ext-x with no
>>> luck. It now does have a swap partition. It didn't like having the
>>> jumper in for the CLJ (cylinder Limitation jumper)
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on how I can possibly resurrect this disk, or should I
>>> not waste my time?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>
>


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Re: [Dorset] Can I recover a Hard disk?

2018-04-15 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Peter,

> I was then able to format the whole disk as NTFS.

Given formatting and partitioning are, these days, just writing bytes
that's the same as any other data as far as the disk is concerned, there
is no difference between filesystems that means you can format it as one
type and not another.  It suggests there are sporadic intermittent disk
errors, either in the media or the controller, and it's just pot luck
what operation you're attempting when there's a failure.

You could use badblocks(8) with either -n or -w to actively write then
read to every disk block to try and show the extent of the problem.  It
would also allow the drive's controller to remap bad blocks onto,
hopefully good, ones from its reserve store.  The man page needs a
careful read.

> Conclusion: Success, and the disk will be OK for play, but don't be
> surprised if it continues to degrade.

Right.  `smartctl -x /dev/sda' will show what the drive's controller
thinks of the state of play.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] Can I recover a Hard disk?

2018-04-15 Thread PeterMerchant via dorset
Got it sorted!  I used UBCD (Ultimate Boot CD) and it's copy of Gparted 
to  attempt a recover of the disc, which showed me that it had been a 
Windows system. I was then able to format the whole disk as NTFS.


For some reason it had not wanted to know Ubuntu, but now I was able to 
install Fedora 27 (KDE) which is up and  running. Yesterday once I got 
it into a state where the head was continuously seeking back and forth 
(You know that sound when you hear it).


This morning I was unable to run fsck on it because of something to do 
with LVM, but  UBCD has a disk test facility that I have run. Yes there 
are some faults on the disk, and some parts that are 'pre-failure', but 
it shows that it has had 19000 hours of use.


Conclusion: Success, and the disk will be OK for play, but don't be 
surprised if it continues to degrade.


Cheers,
Peter

On 05/04/18 19:41, Hamish MB wrote:

Sounds perplexing...

You could try gparted's create partition table option (in one of the menus).

Beyond that, maybe it's better to give up if its being that much of a
pain - it may just be broken.

Hamish


On 05/04/18 17:46, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:

I was given an old Dell with a 250GB MAxtor SATA disk that couldn't be
found by the live disks that I tried. Eventually I loaded up a rescue
disk and gparted and discovered that the disk had an invalid
partition. I was unable to format it as Ext2, 3 or 4, But I did format
it as 2 FAT32 partitions and then it was recognised in my other
computer. I have tried again to get it to format as Ext-x with no
luck. It now does have a swap partition. It didn't like having the
jumper in for the CLJ (cylinder Limitation jumper)

Any thoughts on how I can possibly resurrect this disk, or should I
not waste my time?

Thanks,

Peter





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Re: [Dorset] Can I recover a Hard disk?

2018-04-05 Thread Hamish MB
Sounds perplexing...

You could try gparted's create partition table option (in one of the menus).

Beyond that, maybe it's better to give up if its being that much of a 
pain - it may just be broken.

Hamish


On 05/04/18 17:46, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:
> I was given an old Dell with a 250GB MAxtor SATA disk that couldn't be 
> found by the live disks that I tried. Eventually I loaded up a rescue 
> disk and gparted and discovered that the disk had an invalid 
> partition. I was unable to format it as Ext2, 3 or 4, But I did format 
> it as 2 FAT32 partitions and then it was recognised in my other 
> computer. I have tried again to get it to format as Ext-x with no 
> luck. It now does have a swap partition. It didn't like having the 
> jumper in for the CLJ (cylinder Limitation jumper)
>
> Any thoughts on how I can possibly resurrect this disk, or should I 
> not waste my time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>
>

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