Re: [Dorset] Sound
I had never heard of Pipewire until I upgraded to Kubuntu 22.04. I'll probably mess it all up because I'm a tinkerer and wondering what the sounds from my monitor speakers sound like. Actually the thunk strikes and I'll put in that Fedora KDE system and try there. Peter On 10/03/2023 12:26, Hugh Frater wrote: Glad to hear that you’ve got it working Peter. I’m not sure why sound on Linux has always been such a complicated affair. All I know is that I’m still on the alsa+pulseaudio train and it works for me. On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 at 11:46, Peter Merchant wrote: That worked, and started bringing up a myriad of notifications on the bottom right of teh screen to do with " pasystray New Sink "bxbxbxbxbxbxb" also_output " and somehow I got to pasystray and selected my desired output and all is now good. I have rebooted to confirm that my music plays smoothly. Hopefully if nothing goes wrong I'll have got rid of the feedback noise from Tuesdays meeting. Peter On 10/03/2023 11:26, Peter Merchant wrote: > I am just working through this: > https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/pipewire-replace-pulseaudio-ubuntu-2204/ > > Peter > > On 10/03/2023 09:23, Ralph Corderoy wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >>> Back to my main system Pavucontrol keep saying /no output devices >>> available/, but >>> aplay -l >>> List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices >> ... >> >> Does ‘systemctl status --user pulseaudio.service’ look healthy? >> >> If you search the distro's packages, is there a PulseAudio + ALSA >> package which isn't installed? >> >> These may be useful: >> >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Getting_debug_output_from_pulseaudio >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#No_cards >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#The_only_device_shown_is_%22dummy_output%22_or_newly_connected_cards_are_not_detected >> > > -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk -- Sent from my iPhone -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound
Glad to hear that you’ve got it working Peter. I’m not sure why sound on Linux has always been such a complicated affair. All I know is that I’m still on the alsa+pulseaudio train and it works for me. On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 at 11:46, Peter Merchant wrote: > That worked, and started bringing up a myriad of notifications on the > bottom right of teh screen to do with > " pasystray > New Sink "bxbxbxbxbxbxb" > also_output > " > and somehow I got to pasystray and selected my desired output and all is > now good. I have rebooted to confirm that my music plays smoothly. > > Hopefully if nothing goes wrong I'll have got rid of the feedback noise > from Tuesdays meeting. > > Peter > > On 10/03/2023 11:26, Peter Merchant wrote: > > I am just working through this: > > > https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/pipewire-replace-pulseaudio-ubuntu-2204/ > > > > Peter > > > > On 10/03/2023 09:23, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > >> Hi Peter, > >> > >>> Back to my main system Pavucontrol keep saying /no output devices > >>> available/, but > >>> aplay -l > >>> List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices > >> ... > >> > >> Does ‘systemctl status --user pulseaudio.service’ look healthy? > >> > >> If you search the distro's packages, is there a PulseAudio + ALSA > >> package which isn't installed? > >> > >> These may be useful: > >> > >> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Getting_debug_output_from_pulseaudio > >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#No_cards > >> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#The_only_device_shown_is_%22dummy_output%22_or_newly_connected_cards_are_not_detected > >> > > > > > > > -- > Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 > Check to whom you are replying > Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk > New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > -- Sent from my iPhone -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound
That worked, and started bringing up a myriad of notifications on the bottom right of teh screen to do with " pasystray New Sink "bxbxbxbxbxbxb" also_output " and somehow I got to pasystray and selected my desired output and all is now good. I have rebooted to confirm that my music plays smoothly. Hopefully if nothing goes wrong I'll have got rid of the feedback noise from Tuesdays meeting. Peter On 10/03/2023 11:26, Peter Merchant wrote: I am just working through this: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/pipewire-replace-pulseaudio-ubuntu-2204/ Peter On 10/03/2023 09:23, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Peter, Back to my main system Pavucontrol keep saying /no output devices available/, but aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ... Does ‘systemctl status --user pulseaudio.service’ look healthy? If you search the distro's packages, is there a PulseAudio + ALSA package which isn't installed? These may be useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Getting_debug_output_from_pulseaudio https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#No_cards https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#The_only_device_shown_is_%22dummy_output%22_or_newly_connected_cards_are_not_detected -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound
I am just working through this: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/pipewire-replace-pulseaudio-ubuntu-2204/ Peter On 10/03/2023 09:23, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Peter, Back to my main system Pavucontrol keep saying /no output devices available/, but aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ... Does ‘systemctl status --user pulseaudio.service’ look healthy? If you search the distro's packages, is there a PulseAudio + ALSA package which isn't installed? These may be useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Getting_debug_output_from_pulseaudio https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#No_cards https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#The_only_device_shown_is_%22dummy_output%22_or_newly_connected_cards_are_not_detected -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound
Hi Peter, > Back to my main system Pavucontrol keep saying /no output devices > available/, but > aplay -l > List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ... Does ‘systemctl status --user pulseaudio.service’ look healthy? If you search the distro's packages, is there a PulseAudio + ALSA package which isn't installed? These may be useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Getting_debug_output_from_pulseaudio https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#No_cards https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#The_only_device_shown_is_%22dummy_output%22_or_newly_connected_cards_are_not_detected -- Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound
I would have thought it highly likely that since pipewire is now a thing, pulseaudio would no longer be setup on any distro released in the last couple of years. And that’s the reason why pavucontrol doesn’t see any devices, it needs the pipewire sink/connector/driver installed so that applications expecting to communicate with pulse audio have a compatible connector. Ah, the joys of audio on Linux. It always has been a broken mess. On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 19:32, Peter Merchant wrote: > Not getting anywhere. Making -progress. > I used a different HD and put Fedora-KDE version on it so that next time > my S-in-law comes he can play on that and not muck up my system. It showed > a number of outputs and kept jumping between them until I got something up > and was able to click the radio button for teh one I wanted and settle it > down. > Back to my main system Pavucontrol keep saying /no output devices > available/, > but > aplay -l > List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices > card 0: CMI8738 [C-Media CMI8738], device 0: CMI8738-MC6 [C-Media PCI > DAC/ADC] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: CMI8738 [C-Media CMI8738], device 1: CMI8738-MC6 [C-Media PCI 2nd > DAC] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: CMI8738 [C-Media CMI8738], device 2: CMI8738-MC6 [C-Media PCI > IEC958] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 1: Device [USB2.0 Device], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 2: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 2: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD > Digital] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 3: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 3: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 3: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] > Subdevices: 1/1 > > I know that the one that I want is the [USB Audio] but don't know how to > get pulseaudio to recognize them anymore. I note that it shows the > speakers built into my monitor. I have never had those working. > > Any thought appreciated. Short of doing a full reinstall again > Peter > > > On 08/03/2023 14:47, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > > >> Last night, when I mentioned PulseAudio, Hamish mentioned something > >> else? > > Yes, Pipewire. > > > >> I think I should investigate it, as I now have no sound at all. > >> Pulseaudio says it cannot find any output devices. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio might help. > > > -- > Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 > Check to whom you are replying > Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk > New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > -- Sent from my iPhone -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound
Not getting anywhere. Making -progress. I used a different HD and put Fedora-KDE version on it so that next time my S-in-law comes he can play on that and not muck up my system. It showed a number of outputs and kept jumping between them until I got something up and was able to click the radio button for teh one I wanted and settle it down. Back to my main system Pavucontrol keep saying /no output devices available/, but aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: CMI8738 [C-Media CMI8738], device 0: CMI8738-MC6 [C-Media PCI DAC/ADC] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CMI8738 [C-Media CMI8738], device 1: CMI8738-MC6 [C-Media PCI 2nd DAC] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CMI8738 [C-Media CMI8738], device 2: CMI8738-MC6 [C-Media PCI IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Device [USB2.0 Device], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 3: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 3: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 3: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 I know that the one that I want is the [USB Audio] but don't know how to get pulseaudio to recognize them anymore. I note that it shows the speakers built into my monitor. I have never had those working. Any thought appreciated. Short of doing a full reinstall again Peter On 08/03/2023 14:47, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Peter, Last night, when I mentioned PulseAudio, Hamish mentioned something else? Yes, Pipewire. I think I should investigate it, as I now have no sound at all. Pulseaudio says it cannot find any output devices. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio might help. -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound
Hi Peter, > Last night, when I mentioned PulseAudio, Hamish mentioned something > else? Yes, Pipewire. > I think I should investigate it, as I now have no sound at all. > Pulseaudio says it cannot find any output devices. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio might help. -- Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday, 2023-04-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Sound issues
On 05/02/17 11:55, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Tim, Up until recently the sound output on my PC has been ok but something has now changed I know little about audio under Linux, but does your package manager log every install and update so you can look to see what changed between "it was definitely working then" and "first noticed it broken yesterday"? That might give a clue, or help Googling for recent activity by others with the same problem. It's also possible you installed the breakage a while ago, but only rebooted so it took effect recently. Cheers, Ralph. I have had a look on google, but I can't even tell if I my sound is running under Alsa, Pulse both or neither. My suspicion as I stated in my reply Patrick is it is a Firefox issue. I think I may do a complete reinstall of SolydXK, the XFCE EE variant (EE being the testing version) once current testing becomes stable (which is only several weeks away). Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2017-02-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Sound issues
On 04/02/17 23:57, Patrick Wigmore wrote: On Saturday, 4 February 2017, at 23:24:23 GMT, Tim wrote: ...very bassey, very distorted. If I play a CD\mp3 through Clementine then with the use of the inbuilt equaliser the output is ok. This makes me wonder whether your sound hardware is being treated as surround sound hardware, and the audio jack you are using has been incorrectly mapped to the subwoofer channel. If you are using PulseAudio, It might be worth checking what profile your sound card is set to, using pavucontrol, the KDE multimedia settings, or something like: pacmd info | grep -B50 "active profile" (Sorry, I don't know the equivalent for plain old ALSA.) I could be barking up the wrong tree though. The Speaker system is two small satellite speakers and a subwoofer The play back using Clementine etc. is correct no issue what so ever. While I hate to say it this is starting to look more like a FireFox browser issue again, not so long ago I have the sound issue with video audio running in the background when the said video was not the focus on the page. I made a new profile when I had that issue so I doubt it will be a Firefox Profile issue again I tried the pacmd info | grep -B50 "active profile" All I get is Daemon not Responding The "Active Profile" bit, not sure if you meant it as it is written or as the users logged in, tried both but respond was the same. Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2017-02-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Sound issues
Hi Tim, > Up until recently the sound output on my PC has been ok but something > has now changed I know little about audio under Linux, but does your package manager log every install and update so you can look to see what changed between "it was definitely working then" and "first noticed it broken yesterday"? That might give a clue, or help Googling for recent activity by others with the same problem. It's also possible you installed the breakage a while ago, but only rebooted so it took effect recently. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2017-02-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Sound issues
On Saturday, 4 February 2017, at 23:24:23 GMT, Tim wrote: > ...very bassey, very distorted. If I play a CD\mp3 through > Clementine then with the use of the inbuilt equaliser the > output is ok. This makes me wonder whether your sound hardware is being treated as surround sound hardware, and the audio jack you are using has been incorrectly mapped to the subwoofer channel. If you are using PulseAudio, It might be worth checking what profile your sound card is set to, using pavucontrol, the KDE multimedia settings, or something like: pacmd info | grep -B50 "active profile" (Sorry, I don't know the equivalent for plain old ALSA.) I could be barking up the wrong tree though. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2017-02-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
