[DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Mary Branscombe

Hi; I'm very impressed by the Quick Search bar (as a user and a
journalist), but under Windows XP it looks just a little clunky and
chunky. Could you give some guidance on editing search.html to spruce it
up? I'd like to be able to make the input box itself shallower (I'm
running at 1280x1024 so that taskbar is small); I'd also like to work
out how to customise the  button by changing the size/font/colour/text
colour. If you can point me in the right direction I'll try to
experiment and report back with some screengrabs and suggested setups

thanks

Mary

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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Glenn Carr

Mary,

What version of DQSD are you using?  Can you send a screenshot?

Thanks,
Glenn

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Hi; I'm very impressed by the Quick Search bar (as a user and a
journalist), but under Windows XP it looks just a little clunky and
chunky. Could you give some guidance on editing search.html to spruce it
up? I'd like to be able to make the input box itself shallower (I'm
running at 1280x1024 so that taskbar is small); I'd also like to work
out how to customise the  button by changing the size/font/colour/text
colour. If you can point me in the right direction I'll try to
experiment and report back with some screengrabs and suggested setups

thanks

Mary

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London
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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Will Dean

At 14:12 24/06/2002 +0100, you wrote:

Hi; I'm very impressed by the Quick Search bar (as a user and a
journalist), but under Windows XP it looks just a little clunky and
chunky. Could you give some guidance on editing search.html to spruce it
up?

You can change the appearance by creating a copy of search.htm called 
localsearch.css and then editing that.   (You ought to make sure you have 
an up to date version of DQSD.)

Of course, you can change anything you want by changing search.htm, but 
that's really supposed to be the engine room, and any changes you make 
would be overwritten by an upgrade.

What do you mean by 'shallower'?   Are you talking about 3d effect, or 
about the height of the window on the screen?

  I'd like to be able to make the input box itself shallower (I'm
running at 1280x1024 so that taskbar is small);

The size of the taskbar doesn't really have much to do with the resolution 
- it's more to do with system font settings and how high you've dragged it 
to be.

  I'd also like to work
out how to customise the  button by changing the size/font/colour/text
colour.

Most of that's in the .css file.  Have a look at the style for 
.gobutton.  Currently, it uses the system colours for buttons and text, 
which is the 'proper' way to do it to fit with the current theme - of 
course there's nothing to stop you changing that...

If you can point me in the right direction I'll try to
experiment and report back with some screengrabs and suggested setups

Cool.  Some of us might need a bit of convincing that there's a problem 
which needs fixing in this regard...   If you post a bitmap to the list, 
can you keep it to a reasonable size.

Cheers,

Will



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[DQSD-Users] Re: customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Mary Branscombe

 
 localsearch.css vs search.thm - that makes sense, thanks

(You ought to make sure you have an up to date version of DQSD.)
About tells me Dave's Quick Search Deskbar
Version 2.5.7 (final) - April 1, 2002
 Is that the latest?

 What do you mean by 'shallower'?   Are you talking about 3d effect, or

 about the height of the window on the screen?
 Height on screen - I have a 2560x1024 desktop over two monitors which
means I have toolbar space, and I have an address bar (for URLs) and the
DQSD next to it: it's noticeably higher than the address bar and I can't
drag the height of the deskbar itself; the font looks pretty small from
the date/time - about 8 point - and the deskbar is much deeper than the
depth of the text line, as is the go button. In prefrences.is
//multiline=false; so it doesn't seem to be a double line 
 
 .gobutton.  Currently, it uses the system colours for buttons and
text, 
 which is the 'proper' way to do it to fit with the current theme - of 
 course there's nothing to stop you changing that...
 Yes, I'm using XP with the Luna interface rather than Classic and it
looks like it's picking up the Classic look rather than the appearances
scheme...

  Some of us might need a bit of convincing that there's a problem 
 which needs fixing in this regard...   If you post a bitmap to the
list, 
 can you keep it to a reasonable size.
The grab I took is 150k so I posted it to Glenn rather than the list...
it's not so much a 'problem' but I'd like to make it fit more with the
XP look myself and thought others might find it useful to tinker with
(I'm not what you'd call a hard-core skinner!)

regards

Mary

Mary Branscombe
 




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Fw: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Glenn Carr

Mary,

Thanks for the shot (attached).  I'd echo what Will said.  Here's an old
message that shows some colors for the default XP install (I guess, not
using it):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dqsdd/message/332

*Don't modify* preferences.js as this message pertained to 2.5.2 or earlier.
As Will said, you can now modify localsearch.css (create it if it isn't
there) to have the same effect.  Here's a quick hack that might work for
your in your localsearch.css:

body { background: #215DDE; }
INPUT { border-color: #215DDE }
.mogobutton, .gobutton { background: #215DDE; border-color: #215DDE; }
.cal, .txtfld, .clock { color: #ff; background: #3980F4 }
.calgray, .calgrayhigh { color: #cc; background: #3980F4 }
.caltoday, .caltodayhigh { color: #215DDE }

Glenn

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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar


Glenn - I'm mailing the image direct rather than posting to the list to
keep bandwidth down - please feel free to post onwards. I'm using Dave's
Quick Search Deskbar Version 2.5.7 (final) - April 1, 2002 according to
the About information from the  button. I'll respond to Will's helpful
suggestions on the list

Cheers!

Mary

Mary Branscombe





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Re: [DQSD-Users] Re: customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Paul Bowers

Like this? Stretched across 2 19 inchers, 1280x1024, so I guess that's 2560.

http://www.pipingdesign.com/stuff/dqsd.jpg (way big, don't click unless you
really need to)

Paul


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Subject: [DQSD-Users] Re: customising the look of the deskbar



  localsearch.css vs search.thm - that makes sense, thanks

 (You ought to make sure you have an up to date version of DQSD.)
 About tells me Dave's Quick Search Deskbar
 Version 2.5.7 (final) - April 1, 2002
  Is that the latest?

  What do you mean by 'shallower'?   Are you talking about 3d effect, or

  about the height of the window on the screen?
  Height on screen - I have a 2560x1024 desktop over two monitors which
 means I have toolbar space, and I have an address bar (for URLs) and the
 DQSD next to it: it's noticeably higher than the address bar and I can't
 drag the height of the deskbar itself; the font looks pretty small from
 the date/time - about 8 point - and the deskbar is much deeper than the
 depth of the text line, as is the go button. In prefrences.is
 //multiline=false; so it doesn't seem to be a double line

  .gobutton.  Currently, it uses the system colours for buttons and
 text,
  which is the 'proper' way to do it to fit with the current theme - of
  course there's nothing to stop you changing that...
  Yes, I'm using XP with the Luna interface rather than Classic and it
 looks like it's picking up the Classic look rather than the appearances
 scheme...

   Some of us might need a bit of convincing that there's a problem
  which needs fixing in this regard...   If you post a bitmap to the
 list,
  can you keep it to a reasonable size.
 The grab I took is 150k so I posted it to Glenn rather than the list...
 it's not so much a 'problem' but I'd like to make it fit more with the
 XP look myself and thought others might find it useful to tinker with
 (I'm not what you'd call a hard-core skinner!)




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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread John W. Bairen, Jr.

when i read paul's e-mail, i think the problem is it appears he uninstalls
between versions.  uninstall probably deletes all the files in the quick
search directory.

if he just closed the toolbar... logged off/on and installed new version
(without uninstall) he should keep tweaks in localprefs.js and
localsearch.css.


JB




  That reminds me. I thought by creating myprefs.js, etc., I'd be able to
 keep
  the settings. Unfortunately, everything gets lost during uninstalls.

 localprefs.js should not be overwritten during upgrades.  Check the
 filename.

  Not a big problem, I just reconfig after each beta release. Great tool,
 eh.
  I've recommended it to everyone I know that has a clue.
 
  Paul

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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Paul Bowers

  That reminds me. I thought by creating myprefs.js, etc., I'd be able to
 keep
  the settings. Unfortunately, everything gets lost during uninstalls.

 localprefs.js should not be overwritten during upgrades.  Check the
 filename.


But it does get overwritten, where is the Upgrade button? :)

The solution is simple, put the customized stuff in a seperate directory and
plop it into DQSD after installation of the newest version. I'm just lazy.

W2K Professional.

Paul





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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Paul Bowers

No, I know enough about HTML to be able to customize (just enough to be
somewhat dangerous). I just screwed-up by uninstalling everything, rather
than doing what you recommend below.

Close Toolbar means right-click on the thingie at the bottom of a Windows
page, right?

Thanks,

Paul


 Paul also asked where is the upgrade button... if only it were that easy.
 by upgrade we mean... close tool bar, logoff/on, install newer version
 (uninstall should not be necessary) and open the toolbar.






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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread John W. Bairen, Jr.

if you right click on the thing to the side of the dqsd textbox (some have
referred to it as the foot... it is usually to the left side of dqsd, but i
think can be to the right by some option or something), a menu pops up.  one
of the choices is close toolbar.


 Close Toolbar means right-click on the thingie at the bottom of a
Windows
 page, right?





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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Will Dean

At 12:42 24/06/2002 -0700, you wrote:

But it does get overwritten, where is the Upgrade button? :)

The installer is _supposed_ not to overwrite it.  It will create it as a 
copy of preferences.js, but only if it doesn't already exist.

That's what's meant to happen, anyway.   Are you seeing this problem with 
the most recent beta installation?

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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Will Dean

At 12:42 24/06/2002 -0700, you wrote:

But it does get overwritten, where is the Upgrade button? :)

The installer is _supposed_ not to overwrite it.  It will create it as a 
copy of preferences.js, but only if it doesn't already exist.

That's what's meant to happen, anyway.   Are you seeing this problem with 
the most recent beta installation?

Will



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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Will Dean

At 10:47 24/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:
  You can change the appearance by creating a copy of search.htm called
  localsearch.css and then editing that.   (You ought to make sure you have
  an up to date version of DQSD.)

I'm sure Will means ' ... creating a copy of _search.css_ ... '

I did, sorry.

  Of course, you can change anything you want by changing search.htm, but
  that's really supposed to be the engine room, and any changes you make
  would be overwritten by an upgrade.

Again, I'm sure Will means ' ...by changing _search.css_ ... '

I didn't.

The OP asked about what she should change in search.htm - I was trying to 
say that that's the wrong place for appearance stuff.

Thanks!


Will




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Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar

2002-06-24 Thread Will Dean

At 12:56 24/06/2002 -0700, you wrote:

PS When is my kickback coming? I've been promoting this thing for months
now, no cheques.   :)

Here, have 50% of my DQSD related earnings.

Will




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[DQSD-Users] customization

2002-06-24 Thread John W. Bairen, Jr.

ok... here's one i can't beat.

i don't like there to be any text in my dqsd bar when i'm not using it.  i
do not use it for a clock and i prefer not to even have the words Quick
Search appear there.  after every new install i edit strings.js and make
the one section to look like this:

var QUICK_SEARCH =
{
  en: ,
  es: Búsqueda Rápida,
  fr: Recherche Rapide,
  de: Schnelle Suche,
  no: Hurtigsøk,
  nl: Snelzoek,
  dk: Hurtig Søgning,
  pt: Pesquisa Rápida,
  is: Hraðleit
};


i would prefer to not have to do this every time i upgrade.  is there any
way i can set a permanent override in localprefs.js?... or something?

thanks,
JB

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