Ian Romanick wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:59:01PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > But can't we assume that the user is upgrading from a stable XFree 4.2.0
> > > > installation?
> > > >
> > > No. XFree86 4.2.0 is Mesa 3.4.x based, and it seems XFree86 4.3.0 will
> > > be
Hi. I recently updated my version to the current tree (recently updated
to Mesa 4.0), and DRI no longer works. I'm using a 16MB G400, along with
kernel 2.4.17.
I ran glxinfo with the LIBGL_DEBUG="verbose" and this is the output I got:
libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 1.1.0 mga (screen 0)
lib
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
>
> Well, the new TCL enabled driver doesn't seem to like my Radeon 7500,
> either. Luckily, though, at least it doesn't lock up X on this card.
>
> Instead, I'll usually just get a black window where the GL app should be,
> and then nothing. I can still move the mouse,
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:54:22PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> But on a daily basis!? At least this was the initial plan..
>
> I was thinking in using a script that made some kind of rotation
> eliminating old releases, only adding a snapshot when there were
> differences, etc... This can be d
Is the idea here to have daily/weekly (or whatever) CVS snapshots or to
start an incremental release process seperate from XFree86 releases (i.e.,
with release tags)?
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Daryll Strauss wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:24:49PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> > I have a web stati
On 2002.02.22 22:49 Daryll Strauss wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:24:49PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> > I have a web statistics package on my webserver
> > http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/cgi-bin/awstats.pl were one could get that
> > information.
> >
> > This doesn't mean that I won't put my stu
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:24:49PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> I have a web statistics package on my webserver
> http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/cgi-bin/awstats.pl were one could get that
> information.
>
> This doesn't mean that I won't put my stuff on DRI website: I've sent an
> email to Frank a
On 2002.02.22 22:27 Brian Paul wrote:
> Jose Fonseca wrote:
> >
> > Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> > sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
> >
> > http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages/
> >
> > Unfortunately, as you can notice the packa
On 2002.02.22 22:00 Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> >
> > hmmm.. the only way I see to make everyone happy (I'm already seeing
> > Sergey complaining about the size of the download! ;-) is to make two
> sets
> > of drivers:
> > - one with everything included, including debugging info
> > - another
On 2002.02.22 22:12 Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote:
> > hmmm.. the only way I see to make everyone happy (I'm already seeing
> > Sergey complaining about the size of the download! ;-) is to make two
> sets
> :)) I do not like to complain as much as you can think:). But GATOS
> binary snapshots drivers
Jose Fonseca wrote:
>
> Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
>
> http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages/
>
> Unfortunately, as you can notice the packages are huge. Attached is a
> file list of the i810
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:59:01PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> > >
> > > But can't we assume that the user is upgrading from a stable XFree 4.2.0
> > > installation?
> > >
> > No. XFree86 4.2.0 is Mesa 3.4.x based, and it seems XFree86 4.3.0 will
> > be Mesa 4.0.x based. A MAJOR update!
>
>
> hmmm.. the only way I see to make everyone happy (I'm already seeing
> Sergey complaining about the size of the download! ;-) is to make two sets
:)) I do not like to complain as much as you can think:). But GATOS
binary snapshots drivers are only 190K! Even if dri will be 5 times
larger - it
On 2002.02.22 22:02 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:38:28PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> > >>
> > >No. XFree86 4.2.0 is Mesa 3.4.x based, and it seems XFree86 4.3.0 will
> > >be Mesa 4.0.x based. A MAJOR update!
> > >
> > >Alan.
> > >
> >
> > hmmm.. the only way I see to make ev
>
> hmmm.. the only way I see to make everyone happy (I'm already seeing
> Sergey complaining about the size of the download! ;-) is to make two sets
> of drivers:
> - one with everything included, including debugging info
> - another with stripped binaries and without the libraries that do
> >
> > But can't we assume that the user is upgrading from a stable XFree 4.2.0
> > installation?
> >
> No. XFree86 4.2.0 is Mesa 3.4.x based, and it seems XFree86 4.3.0 will
> be Mesa 4.0.x based. A MAJOR update!
I think we have to look at the scope of what we're trying to do: provide an
updat
Well, the new TCL enabled driver doesn't seem to like my Radeon 7500,
either. Luckily, though, at least it doesn't lock up X on this card.
Instead, I'll usually just get a black window where the GL app should be,
and then nothing. I can still move the mouse, move the window, kill the
app, laun
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:53:50PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:37:08PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > Jos Fonseca wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 2002.02.22 17:28 Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > > > Jose Fonseca wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:38:28PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> >>
> >No. XFree86 4.2.0 is Mesa 3.4.x based, and it seems XFree86 4.3.0 will
> >be Mesa 4.0.x based. A MAJOR update!
> >
> >Alan.
> >
>
> hmmm.. the only way I see to make everyone happy (I'm already seeing
> Sergey complaining abou
Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:37:08PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > Jos Fonseca wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2002.02.22 17:28 Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > > Jose Fonseca wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> > > > > sucessful
On 2002.02.22 21:35 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:17:28PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> > On 2002.02.22 21:13 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > >...
> > >What I meant is from a bug standpoint. If there's a bug in Mesa which
> > >is fixed, then libGLcore.a needs to be replaced. This is
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:17:28PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> On 2002.02.22 21:13 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:59:01PM +, Jos Fonseca wrote:
> >> On 2002.02.22 20:57 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >> >...
> >> >libGLcore.a is the internal Mesa code that drives indirect GLX.
>
On 2002.02.22 21:13 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:59:01PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> > On 2002.02.22 20:57 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > >...
> > >libGLcore.a is the internal Mesa code that drives indirect GLX.
> > >
> > >If anything changes in Mesa, libGLcore.a changes too.
> >
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:59:01PM +, José Fonseca wrote:
> On 2002.02.22 20:57 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:37:08PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >> Jos Fonseca wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On 2002.02.22 17:28 Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >> > > ...
> >> > > What is libGLcore.a? I
On 2002.02.22 20:57 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:37:08PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > Jos Fonseca wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2002.02.22 17:28 Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > What is libGLcore.a? Is that actually used?
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is res
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:37:08PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> Jos Fonseca wrote:
> >
> > On 2002.02.22 17:28 Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > Jose Fonseca wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> > > > sucessfully. The generated packages are available
José Fonseca wrote:
>
> On 2002.02.22 17:28 Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > Jose Fonseca wrote:
> > >
> > > Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> > > sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
> > >
> > > http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages/
> > >
> >
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Ian Romanick wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 01:32:23PM -0500, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > >
> > > > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, even though I'm pretty sure th
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
>
> Just a quick follow-up to a question I'm sure that's coming :-)
>
> Yes, the Radeon mobility works fine under stock 4.2.0, without any
> problems.
>
Jens also pointed out that I'd neglected to update the test for kernel module
versions - is it possible that you've b
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> > >
> > > So, even though I'm pretty sure the Mobility chips don't even have
> > > the TCL functionality to begin with, I thought I'd test the new Radeon
> > > code on my Compaq Presari
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Ian Romanick wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 01:32:23PM -0500, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >
> > > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, even though I'm pretty sure the Mobility chips don't even have
> > > >
Jens Owen wrote:
>
> Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >
> > Jens Owen wrote:
>
> > > I was refering to the DRM version
> > > (xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/radeon/radeon_screen.c: line 79). If we require
> > > the Radeon 1.3 DRM module, wouldn't this be the place to check?
> >
> > Oh. Yes, I missed that.
>
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 01:32:23PM -0500, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> > Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> > >
> > > So, even though I'm pretty sure the Mobility chips don't even have
> > > the TCL functionality to begin with, I thought I'd test the
Just a quick follow-up to a question I'm sure that's coming :-)
Yes, the Radeon mobility works fine under stock 4.2.0, without any
problems.
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:32:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Adam K Kirchhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Keith Whitwell <[EMAIL
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
> >
> > So, even though I'm pretty sure the Mobility chips don't even have
> > the TCL functionality to begin with, I thought I'd test the new Radeon
> > code on my Compaq Presario 2700 (Mobility LY chip) just to see i
Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> Jens Owen wrote:
> > I was refering to the DRM version
> > (xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/radeon/radeon_screen.c: line 79). If we require
> > the Radeon 1.3 DRM module, wouldn't this be the place to check?
>
> Oh. Yes, I missed that.
Other things that would help version
Dieter Nützel wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> as you all should have noticed the Linux kernel team has this under
> development (2.5 and backport patches for 2.4.17+). So I would sharp your
> senses, that we should consider this when we do new DRM stuff.
>
> I think there is ongoing discussion in the Mac
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:
>
> So, even though I'm pretty sure the Mobility chips don't even have
> the TCL functionality to begin with, I thought I'd test the new Radeon
> code on my Compaq Presario 2700 (Mobility LY chip) just to see if it broke
> anything :-)
>
> Well, it did...
Jens Owen wrote:
>
> Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >
> > Jens Owen wrote:
> > >
> > > Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jens Owen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jens, For TCL support, the driver needs drm module version 1.3.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, we really
Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:26:03AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> > > Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:42:48AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> > >
> > > > > First, what are the base requirements before installation? It
Hello,
as you all should have noticed the Linux kernel team has this under
development (2.5 and backport patches for 2.4.17+). So I would sharp your
senses, that we should consider this when we do new DRM stuff.
I think there is ongoing discussion in the Mach 64 group (udelay vs sleep)?
As I r
Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> Jens Owen wrote:
> >
> > Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > >
> > > Jens Owen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jens, For TCL support, the driver needs drm module version 1.3.
> > > >
> > > > So, we really want to get version 1.3 onto users machines.
On 2002.02.22 17:28 Keith Whitwell wrote:
> Jose Fonseca wrote:
> >
> > Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> > sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
> >
> > http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages/
> >
> > Unfortunately, as you can notice the p
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 05:27:03PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
>Alan Hourihane wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:26:03AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
>> > Alan Hourihane wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:42:48AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
>> >
>> > > > First, what are the base requir
Jose Fonseca wrote:
>
> Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
>
> http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages/
>
> Unfortunately, as you can notice the packages are huge. Attached is a
> file list of the i810
Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:26:03AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> > Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:42:48AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> >
> > > > First, what are the base requirements before installation? It looks
> > > > like XFree86 4.x and Linux
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 05:15:00PM +, Jose Fonseca wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 17:02, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:56:48PM +, Jose Fonseca wrote:
> > > Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> > > sucessfully. The generated packages are av
Jens Owen wrote:
>
> Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >
> > Jens Owen wrote:
> > >
> > > Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jens, For TCL support, the driver needs drm module version 1.3.
> > >
> > > So, we really want to get version 1.3 onto users machines. Am I correct
> > > in saying that older versi
I've also put the my (incredible simple and featureless) script for
doing this at the scripts/ subdirectory.
Jose Fonseca
On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 16:56, Jose Fonseca wrote:
> Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
>
>
So, even though I'm pretty sure the Mobility chips don't even have
the TCL functionality to begin with, I thought I'd test the new Radeon
code on my Compaq Presario 2700 (Mobility LY chip) just to see if it broke
anything :-)
Well, it did... When I start up a 3D application, the
On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 17:02, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:56:48PM +, Jose Fonseca wrote:
> > Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> > sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
> >
> > http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages
Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:26:03AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> > Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:42:48AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> >
> > > > First, what are the base requirements before installation? It looks
> > > > like XFree86 4.x and Linux
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:56:48PM +, Jose Fonseca wrote:
> Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
> sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
>
> http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages/
>
Just a comment. Why don't you put these up on the DRI pa
Luckily, after sending the previous email the script completed
sucessfully. The generated packages are available at:
http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/packages/
Unfortunately, as you can notice the packages are huge. Attached is a
file list of the i810 driver. libGLcore, e.g., is 18 MB..!
Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> Jens Owen wrote:
> >
> > Keith Whitwell wrote:
> >
> > > Jens, For TCL support, the driver needs drm module version 1.3.
> >
> > So, we really want to get version 1.3 onto users machines. Am I correct
> > in saying that older versions still work, but would cause the dri
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 04:28:09PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > Hmm. I don't suppose the R128DMA() call per se imposes such a high load?
> > No, I also tested it inside R128RMA (for the cases DMA is working) and inside
> > the "if" cycle for cases it isn't. It is not (directly) R128DMA that i
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:26:03AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:42:48AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
>
> > > First, what are the base requirements before installation? It looks
> > > like XFree86 4.x and Linux Kernel 2.4.x are required and checke
Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:42:48AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> > First, what are the base requirements before installation? It looks
> > like XFree86 4.x and Linux Kernel 2.4.x are required and checked for by
> > the install script.
> The requirement has always been XFr
Jens Owen wrote:
>
> Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> > Jens, For TCL support, the driver needs drm module version 1.3.
>
> So, we really want to get version 1.3 onto users machines. Am I correct
> in saying that older versions still work, but would cause the driver to
> fall back to rasterization on
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:12:44AM -0700, Jens Owen wrote:
> Keith Whitwell wrote:
>
> > Jens, For TCL support, the driver needs drm module version 1.3.
>
> So, we really want to get version 1.3 onto users machines. Am I correct
> in saying that older versions still work, but would cause the dr
Keith Whitwell wrote:
> Jens, For TCL support, the driver needs drm module version 1.3.
So, we really want to get version 1.3 onto users machines. Am I correct
in saying that older versions still work, but would cause the driver to
fall back to rasterization only.
I've made the following mods
On Fre, 2002-02-22 at 10:25, Peter Surda wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 01:38:36AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > BEFORE the "if", X load sinks by about 20% during video playing, BOTH when
> > > using dri (25->5) or not using DRI (50->30)
> > > When I put it AFTER the if, the load doesn't cha
Hi,
I'm just posting to say that I haven't forgot the promise to provide
DRI binary driver snapshots.
The Alan's scripts are indeed great and do most of the work.
I'm just making an wrapper script to them, that synchronizes the local
tree with CVS, builds it, and then call dripkg.sh to packag
On 2002.02.22 09:08 Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote:
> > No, DMA isn't yet done. Frank Earl has most of the work done except for
>
> > the security, for which a solution has yet to be found.
> Thanks for the info. I was not smart enough to understand it from the
> latest messages/irc logs. So Frank's so
> No, DMA isn't yet done. Frank Earl has most of the work done except for
> the security, for which a solution has yet to be found.
Thanks for the info. I was not smart enough to understand it from the
latest messages/irc logs. So Frank's solution is not secure for a
moment. But why it just canno
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 01:38:36AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > BEFORE the "if", X load sinks by about 20% during video playing, BOTH when
> > using dri (25->5) or not using DRI (50->30)
> > When I put it AFTER the if, the load doesn't change (25 with dri, 50 without).
> Hmm. I don't suppose th
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