On Don, 2002-12-12 at 18:11, D. Hageman wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done. In
Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 16:20 schrieb Dieter Nützel:
> Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 15:09 schrieb Alan Hourihane:
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:50:39PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote:
> > > Latest trunk with 2.4.20 kernel DRM or the DRI DRM module stutters like
> > > hell for some apps on
[ Short story - I already do exactly this. Long story: some of the
differences between the kernel tree and the DRI CVS tree really need
somebody to get rid of the task-queue usage in DRI CVS, and that I don't
have time for myself at least right now ]
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alan Hourihane wrot
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:50:39PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote:
>
> > Some apps only run smooth with 2.5.49+ kernels due to Linus latest work.
> > Nothing of it in XFree or DRI, yet.
>
> Linus should submit it here for inclusion - simple. I doubt any
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 10:18:44AM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> ...
> It's clear that both the drm and the 3d clientside drivers have a life outside
> XFree86, but what isn't clear is how to express this in a reasonable
> development environment or set of CVS trees.
Well, lets work on making t
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 07:14:45PM -0800, Philip Brown wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
...
It takes two to tango so its not just what I need its also what do they
need.
What I would like to see would be:
A single definitive source for the D
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 07:14:45PM -0800, Philip Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> > ...
> > It takes two to tango so its not just what I need its also what do they
> > need.
> >
> > What I would like to see would be:
> >
> > A single definitive source for
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> ...
> It takes two to tango so its not just what I need its also what do they
> need.
>
> What I would like to see would be:
>
> A single definitive source for the DRM code, one where contributions go
> back from Linux, from *BSD, from c
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 19:00, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> I've been looking at what's in 2.4 and it's quite divergent from what we've
> got on the trunk. It is pretty closely related to the xfree 4.2 code, though,
> and most of the changes seem to be in the 2.4 code.
>
> Are you proposing pulling th
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote:
>> Right now for 2.4 I'm juggling too many conflicting balls, if its all in
>> the DRM CVS then merging stuff added to DRM cvs is a real nobrainer, and
>> since I can do it item by item as it changes its also easy to know when
>> something bad happens.
>
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> >> > > The ability to track changes to that with reasons so that we can keep a
> >> > > stable DRM and also the 'DRM of the day' visible to the kernel people -
> >> > > perhaps the devel kernel tree having
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:
>> > > The ability to track changes to that with reasons so that we can keep a
>> > > stable DRM and also the 'DRM of the day' visible to the kernel people -
>> > > perhaps the devel kernel tree having an option for "Development DRM
>> > > (XFree86 4.4) (
How would you ideally see this working?
Mostly I want to know how to make sure changes "stick" once they are
made and deemed or shown to work. If the Linux fixes get back into the
DRM CVS, then the only other bit is knowing when the DRM CVS has
changed. That sounds like a procmail filter on th
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 12:49, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > A single definitive source for the DRM code, one where contributions go
> > back from Linux, from *BSD, from core XFree86 as well as from the DRI
> > project.
>
> My feeling is that the dri cvs should be that place. What workable
> alternati
On 12 Dec 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
>Date: 12 Dec 2002 18:22:10 +
>From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: D. Hageman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject: Re: [Dri-deve
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 06:22:10PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 12:40, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > > The ability to track changes to that with reasons so that we can keep a
> > > stable DRM and also the 'DRM of the day' visible to the kernel people -
> > > perhaps the devel kernel t
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 12:40, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > The ability to track changes to that with reasons so that we can keep a
> > stable DRM and also the 'DRM of the day' visible to the kernel people -
> > perhaps the devel kernel tree having an option for "Development DRM
> > (XFree86 4.4) (Y/M/N
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 11:11:13AM -0600, D. Hageman wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > For 'stable DRM' you need to stick with XFree86 4.2.0 and the DRM modules
> > that ship with 4.2.0. For 'DRM of the day' use the DRI trunk.
>
> I admit that your logic is sound, but answer
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
> > >
> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done. In
> > > other words, what do you need fro
> It's either that, or the person who sent Linus the patch should submit
> it here. I think the latter is far more difficult.
>
> Otherwise we (as in someone on the DRI lists - not necessarily a committer to
> the project) are going to have to track the 2.5.x series and 2.4.x series
> for stable a
Alan Hourihane wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:34:23 +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:09:18PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote:
Some apps only run smooth with 2.5.49+ kernels due to Linus latest
work. > > Nothing of it in XFree or DRI, yet.
Linus sh
Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:49:37PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> It seems that changes get inserted to the drm code in the kernel from time to
> time. Is the expectation that we monitor the kernel drm and periodically
> merge (or otherwise) those random or worthy changes b
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 04:20:35 +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 15:09 schrieb Alan Hourihane:
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:50:39PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote:
>
> > > Latest trunk with 2.4.20 kernel DRM or the DRI DRM module stutters like
> > > hell for some apps
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:34:23 +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> Dave Jones wrote:
> >On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:09:18PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > > > Some apps only run smooth with 2.5.49+ kernels due to Linus latest
> > work. > > Nothing of it in XFree or DRI, yet.
> > > Linus should submi
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 03:31:30 +0100, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:09:18PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > > Some apps only run smooth with 2.5.49+ kernels due to Linus latest work.
> > > Nothing of it in XFree or DRI, yet.
> > Linus should submit it here for inclusion - si
Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:49:37PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> It seems that changes get inserted to the drm code in the kernel from time to
> time. Is the expectation that we monitor the kernel drm and periodically
> merge (or otherwise) those random or worthy changes b
Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 15:09 schrieb Alan Hourihane:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:50:39PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote:
> > Latest trunk with 2.4.20 kernel DRM or the DRI DRM module stutters like
> > hell for some apps on my SMP system.
>
> Forget the DRI trunk for a second, what does 2.4.
Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:09:18PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > Some apps only run smooth with 2.5.49+ kernels due to Linus latest work.
> > Nothing of it in XFree or DRI, yet.
> Linus should submit it here for inclusion - simple. I doubt any of us
> are tracking 2.5.x t
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:09:18PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > Some apps only run smooth with 2.5.49+ kernels due to Linus latest work.
> > Nothing of it in XFree or DRI, yet.
> Linus should submit it here for inclusion - simple. I doubt any of us
> are tracking 2.5.x that closely at the
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:49:37PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> It seems that changes get inserted to the drm code in the kernel from time to
> time. Is the expectation that we monitor the kernel drm and periodically
> merge (or otherwise) those random or worthy changes back to this reposit
On Don, 2002-12-12 at 14:50, Dieter Nützel wrote:
> Look at the "current" kernel (drm) source.
> There are "daily" changes/fixes and we should use the "latest" XFree (DRI)
> DRM? Currently I'm under the impression that nobody (only a few) of the
> XFree/DRI developers pay attention about SMP and
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:50:39PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 13:58 schrieb Alan Hourihane:
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:53:46PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > > Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > > >On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > >>On
Sorry, but I think this is much to slow/few.
Look at the "current" kernel (drm) source.
There are "daily" changes/fixes and we should use the "latest" XFree (DRI)
DRM? Currently I'm under the impression that nobody (only a few) of the
XFree/DRI developers pay attention about SMP and/or latency
Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 13:58 schrieb Alan Hourihane:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:53:46PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> > Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > >On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> > >>On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
> > >>>Alan,
> > >>>
> > >>>
Alan Hourihane wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
Alan,
What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done. In
other words, what do you need from the DRI team?
It takes two to tango so its not just
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:53:46PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
> >>
> >>>Alan,
> >>>
> >>>What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done.
Alan Cox wrote:
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
Alan,
What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done. In
other words, what do you need from the DRI team?
It takes two to tango so its not just what I need its also what do they
need.
What I would like to se
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:30PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
> >
> > Alan,
> >
> > What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done. In
> > other words, what do you need from the DRI team?
>
> It takes two to tango so its not just
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:11, D. Hageman wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done. In
> other words, what do you need from the DRI team?
It takes two to tango so its not just what I need its also what do they
need.
What I would like to see would b
Alan,
What would you like to see be implemented to help get the job done. In
other words, what do you need from the DRI team?
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 20:12, D. Hageman wrote:
> > I have noticed some feedback from Alan and Linus already on this list. Is
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 20:12, D. Hageman wrote:
> I have noticed some feedback from Alan and Linus already on this list. Is
> anyone taking care of things yet?
No. There isnt currently a nice setup for this.
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