Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Paul Cockings
On 18/04/2012 00:07, Steve Fatula wrote: Have 10 users on this system, highest spam hit rate is 37%, which is quite bad if you ask me. On my setup DSPAM is disabled for most users as they don't need it, the checks that are in place at the MTA are sufficient enough for those users to receive

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Steve Fatula
On my setup DSPAM is disabled for most users as they don't need it, the checks that are in place at the MTA are sufficient enough for those users to receive a very low level of spam.  DSPAM is used for some troublesome accounts or those that want/can handle training a filter. That's great,

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Paul Cockings
On 18/04/2012 20:45, Steve Fatula wrote: On my setup DSPAM is disabled for most users as they don't need it, the checks that are in place at the MTA are sufficient enough for those users to receive a very low level of spam. DSPAM is used for some troublesome accounts or those

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Steve Fatula wrote: On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Paul Cockings wrote: On 18/04/2012 00:07, Steve Fatula wrote: Have 10 users on this system, highest spam hit rate is 37%, which is quite bad if you ask me. On my setup DSPAM is disabled for most users as

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Steve Fatula
From: Bradley Giesbrecht bradley.giesbre...@gmail.com To: Steve Fatula compconsult...@yahoo.com Cc: Dspam List dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate I can't help you other then to point out that you may have

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Stevan Bajić
On 18.04.2012 22:04, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Steve Fatula wrote: On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Paul Cockings wrote: On 18/04/2012 00:07, Steve Fatula wrote: Have 10 users on this system, highest spam hit rate is 37%, which is quite bad if you ask me. On my

[Dspam-user] TOE vs TEFT

2012-04-18 Thread Ben Luey
I setup dspam a while ago with TEFT. Everything I've read on the list says to use TOE instead of TEFT. Once the training period is over (2,500 messages I believe) does it matter? Does TOE vs TEFT only affect the spam detection when in training mode? Put another way, if none of my users are

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Stevan Bajić
On 18.04.2012 22:38, Steve Fatula wrote: *From:* Bradley Giesbrecht bradley.giesbre...@gmail.com *To:* Steve Fatula compconsult...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Dspam List dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread k...@rice.edu
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 08:55:11PM +0100, Paul Cockings wrote: On 18/04/2012 20:45, Steve Fatula wrote: On my setup DSPAM is disabled for most users as they don't need it, the checks that are in place at the MTA are sufficient enough for those users to receive a very low level

Re: [Dspam-user] TOE vs TEFT

2012-04-18 Thread Stevan Bajić
On 18.04.2012 22:37, Ben Luey wrote: I setup dspam a while ago with TEFT. Everything I've read on the list says to use TOE instead of TEFT. Once the training period is over (2,500 messages I believe) does it matter? Yes it does! Does TOE vs TEFT only affect the spam detection when in

Re: [Dspam-user] TOE vs TEFT

2012-04-18 Thread Ben
Thanks for the explanation Stevan. Now that is appears it is worth switching, my next question is how best to do the switch for already existing users trained again TEFT: If I just change the dspam setting, what happens? Does it start over with no training data? Convert the old data? Do some

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Steve Fatula
From: Stevan Bajić ste...@bajic.ch To: dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate This is not good. But the above data is not that horrible. Anyway... allow me to ask you a bunch of questions: 1) When you get a FN

Re: [Dspam-user] TOE vs TEFT

2012-04-18 Thread Stevan Bajić
On 18.04.2012 23:40, Ben wrote: Thanks for the explanation Stevan. Now that is appears it is worth switching, my next question is how best to do the switch for already existing users trained again TEFT: If I just change the dspam setting, what happens? Allow me to explain with more detail.

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Stevan Bajić
On 19.04.2012 00:54, Steve Fatula wrote: *From:* Stevan Bajić ste...@bajic.ch *To:* dspam-user@lists.sourceforge.net *Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:41 PM *Subject:* Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate This is not good. But the above data is not that horrible.

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread P.V.Anthony
On 19/04/2012 04:41, Stevan Bajić wrote: IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Spam IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Prob IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Report IgnoreHeader X-ArGoMail-Read Ohhh boy! From where is that list? Looks like one of my older IgnoreHeader list. I too have the same list. Should I use this

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Stevan Bajić
On 19.04.2012 03:32, P.V.Anthony wrote: On 19/04/2012 04:41, Stevan Bajić wrote: IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Spam IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Prob IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Report IgnoreHeader X-ArGoMail-Read Ohhh boy! From where is that list? Looks like one of my older IgnoreHeader list. I too

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread Stevan Bajić
On 19.04.2012 04:06, Stevan Bajić wrote: On 19.04.2012 03:32, P.V.Anthony wrote: On 19/04/2012 04:41, Stevan Bajić wrote: IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Spam IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Prob IgnoreHeader X-Paranoid-Report IgnoreHeader X-ArGoMail-Read Ohhh boy! From where is that list? Looks like one

Re: [Dspam-user] Increase Spam Hit Rate

2012-04-18 Thread P.V.Anthony
On 19/04/2012 10:06, Stevan Bajić wrote: . I too have the same list. Should I use this feature You can use the list. Why not? Cool. or is there an updated list that I can use? IgnoreHeader acceptlanguage IgnoreHeader Accept-Language IgnoreHeader Approved IgnoreHeader Archive Thank