Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread newsepr
I'll get this link added to the wiki... I didn't even know that it existed... Ed On 8/11/2010 8:55 AM, Julien Valroff wrote: >> You are getting older :) >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/dspam/index.php?title=FAQ#What_is_TWEAK_-1.3F > I still feel young enough ;) > http://sourceforge.net

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:43:12 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:45:05 -0700 > > Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > > > [...] > I guess to be more helpful I should start using the Web-UI. I don't > have apache2-

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Aug 10, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:45:05 -0700 > Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > [...] I guess to be more helpful I should start using the Web-UI. I don't have apache2-suexec installed. Guess I'll get that going so I can be a better dspam

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread Paul Cockings
Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:55:18 +0200 > Julien Valroff wrote: > > >> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/dspam/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/FAQ >> >> The problem is that there is not one page on the wiki linked to the FAQ, >> hence no means to find it easily apart

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:00:33 +0200 Julien Valroff wrote: > Le mardi 10 août 2010 à 23:15 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:24:43 +0200 > > Julien Valroff wrote: > [...] > > > > > and what is the reason of not using the > > > signature system? > > > > > Enemy number one is

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:55:18 +0200 Julien Valroff wrote: > Le mardi 10 août 2010 à 23:16 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:19:56 +0200 > > Julien Valroff wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 21:10 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread Julien Valroff
Le mardi 10 août 2010 à 23:15 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:24:43 +0200 > Julien Valroff wrote: [...] > > > and what is the reason of not using the > > signature system? > > > Enemy number one is: The database :) > My reason for saying this is simple: > Lets make some cal

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-11 Thread Julien Valroff
Le mardi 10 août 2010 à 23:16 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:19:56 +0200 > Julien Valroff wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 21:10 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:55 +0200 > > > Julien Valroff wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > > >

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:19:56 +0200 Julien Valroff wrote: > Hi, > > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 21:10 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:55 +0200 > > Julien Valroff wrote: > > > [...] > > > > John has introduced that "tweak -1" option into the WebUI that one can > > > > pre

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:24:43 +0200 Julien Valroff wrote: > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 21:10 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:55 +0200 > > Julien Valroff wrote: > [...] > > > > Well what should I say? Keeping track of the state of a signature > > > > is fine and dandy

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Julien Valroff
Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 21:10 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:55 +0200 > Julien Valroff wrote: [...] > > > Well what should I say? Keeping track of the state of a signature > > > is fine and dandy but what do you do if someone is not using > > > signatures but trainin

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Julien Valroff
Hi, Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 21:10 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:55 +0200 > Julien Valroff wrote: > [...] > > > John has introduced that "tweak -1" option into the WebUI that one can > > > press if they undo something. > > > > I hadn't understood this option was meant

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:45:05 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: [...] > >> I guess to be more helpful I should start using the Web-UI. I don't > >> have apache2-suexec installed. Guess I'll get that going so I can > >> be a > >> better dspam citizen. > >> > > I don't have apache2-suexec installed

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:50:25 -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht > wrote: >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:25 AM, ste...@bajic.ch wrote: >> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:49:35 -0700 > Bradley Gies

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:50:25 -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:25 AM, ste...@bajic.ch wrote: > >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: >>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:49:35 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:37 PM,

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:25 AM, ste...@bajic.ch wrote: >> >> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:49:35 -0700 >>> Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: >>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:46:50 -0700 > Br

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread stevan
> > On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > >> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:49:35 -0700 >> Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: >>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:46:50 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: [...] >> How do you undo a

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-10 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:49:35 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:46:50 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: [...] How do you undo a training when not using the Web-UI? I don'

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:49:35 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:46:50 -0700 > > Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > > > [...] > >>> How do you undo a training when not using the Web-UI? > >> > >> I don't know. Send the same

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:46:50 -0700 > Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > [...] >>> How do you undo a training when not using the Web-UI? >> >> I don't know. Send the same message to s...@domain.com and then >> h...@domain.com >> ? >> > But that must s

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:46:50 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: [...] > > How do you undo a training when not using the Web-UI? > > I don't know. Send the same message to s...@domain.com and then > h...@domain.com > ? > But that must somehow trigger a command. s...@domain.com/h...@domain.com are

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Aug 9, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:54:59 -0700 > Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > >> >> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Stevan Bajić wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:20:10 +0200 >>> Julien Valroff wrote: >>> Hi Stevan, Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 19:4

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:54:59 -0700 Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:20:10 +0200 > > Julien Valroff wrote: > > > >> Hi Stevan, > >> > >> Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 19:42 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > >>> On Mon, 09 Aug 201

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Stevan Bajić wrote: > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:20:10 +0200 > Julien Valroff wrote: > >> Hi Stevan, >> >> Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 19:42 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : >>> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:27:27 +0200 >>> news...@acrocat.com wrote: >>> >> [...] >>> This seems w

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:55:55 +0200 Julien Valroff wrote: > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 20:37 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:20:10 +0200 > > Julien Valroff wrote: > > > > > Hi Stevan, > > > > > > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 19:42 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > > > On Mon, 0

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Julien Valroff
Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 20:37 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:20:10 +0200 > Julien Valroff wrote: > > > Hi Stevan, > > > > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 19:42 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:27:27 +0200 > > > news...@acrocat.com wrote: > > > > > [...]

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:20:10 +0200 Julien Valroff wrote: > Hi Stevan, > > Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 19:42 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:27:27 +0200 > > news...@acrocat.com wrote: > > > [...] > > > > > This seems weird to me. > > > > > DSPAM does not keep track of chan

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Julien Valroff
Hi Stevan, Le lundi 09 août 2010 à 19:42 +0200, Stevan Bajić a écrit : > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:27:27 +0200 > news...@acrocat.com wrote: > [...] > > > This seems weird to me. > > > DSPAM does not keep track of changed states of a signature. So if you > retrain the status is changed but if you u

Re: [Dspam-user] Re-training

2010-08-09 Thread Stevan Bajić
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:27:27 +0200 news...@acrocat.com wrote: > If I look at a message marked as SPAM from the History tab, and I click > on retrain, the Performance tab shows Good Message Missed + 1. That > makes sense. > > Now if I undo that, and retrain it to be SPAM, I see the SPAM messages