New mailing list. Was Re: [dwm] musca wm

2009-05-20 Thread Uriel
I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for 'offtopic' discussion. Right now when one has something to say that doesn't quite fit in

[dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-05-20 08:35] Uriel urie...@gmail.com I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for 'offtopic' discussion. +1 Right now when

Re: New mailing list. Was Re: [dwm] musca wm

2009-05-20 Thread Samuel Baldwin
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for 'offtopic' discussion. I

Re: New mailing list. Was Re: [dwm] musca wm

2009-05-20 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. Uriel wrote: I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for 'offtopic' discussion. There is a philosophical distraction

Re: [dwm] nanox

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi pancake, 2009/5/19 pancake panc...@youterm.com: I have been looking a bit for an alternative for X11, and I found nano-X quite interesting, but it is currently an abandoned project. 8000 LOCs, there's an abstraction library to wrap libX11 and there's support for some many IO devices (tty,

Re: [dwm] nanox

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/5/20 Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:08:07PM +0200, pancake wrote: Seems interesting, but instead of reinventing the wheel, why don't we just clean up X.org and submit patches back upstream? Rewriting/implementing X.org seems li ke more work than

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
I think that's a sensible proposal, let's do it. For those who are subscribed already, there won't be a difference. The new ones will subscribe to hackers. We will keep dwm@ and wmii@ working, but direct it to hack...@. Kind regards, Anselm 2009/5/20 markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de:

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Ok, I meant the following: Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. Kind

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi, 2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com: On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Premysl Hruby
On (20/05/09 10:04), Anselm R Garbe wrote: To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org, wmii mail list w...@suckless.org From: Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list Reply-To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org List-Id: dwm mail list dwm.suckless.org Ok, I meant the

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/5/20 Premysl Hruby dfe...@gmail.com: On (20/05/09 10:04), Anselm R Garbe wrote: To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org, wmii mail list w...@suckless.org From: Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list Reply-To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org List-Id: dwm mail

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread yy
2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com: On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/5/20 yy yiyu@gmail.com: 2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com: On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who are only interested in

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Uriel
The problem is not dwm@ and wmii@, the problem is all the other stuff that is unrelated to either, the only two logical and consistent options are to either we further split the community into st@ dws@ and so on, or we merge everything, and I think that option is a no-brainer. uriel On Wed, May

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/5/20 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: The problem is not dwm@ and wmii@, the problem is all the other stuff that is unrelated to either, the only two logical and consistent options are to either we further split the community into st@ dws@ and so on, or we merge everything, and I think that

Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list

2009-05-20 Thread Premysl Hruby
On (20/05/09 11:53), Uriel wrote: To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org From: Uriel urie...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list Reply-To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org List-Id: dwm mail list dwm.suckless.org The problem is not dwm@ and wmii@, the problem is all the other stuff

Re: [dwm] Irc channel moved

2009-05-20 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 5/20/09, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: For simplicity and consistency #dwm and #wmii have moved to #hackers. Still in the oftc network. #suckless

Re: [dwm] Irc channel moved

2009-05-20 Thread Uriel
#dev On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/20/09, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: For simplicity and consistency #dwm and #wmii have moved to #hackers. Still in the oftc network. #suckless

Re: [dwm] Irc channel moved

2009-05-20 Thread Dusan
On Wed, 20 May 2009 12:08:28 +0200 Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/20/09, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: For simplicity and consistency #dwm and #wmii have moved to #hackers. Still in the oftc network. #suckless #suckless is probably the best. #hackers will attract wrong

Re: [dwm] Irc channel moved

2009-05-20 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/5/20 Dusan ef_...@yahoo.com: #suckless is probably the best. #hackers will attract wrong kids and does not describe anything. The agreed channel name is #suckless. Period. Kind regards, Anselm

Re: [dwm] nanox

2009-05-20 Thread Jacob Todd
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 09:53:30AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2009/5/20 Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:08:07PM +0200, pancake wrote: Seems interesting, but instead of reinventing the wheel, why don't we just clean up X.org and submit patches back

Re: [dwm] nanox

2009-05-20 Thread John Yates
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: I have a completely new WS in mind, design-wise with no X dependency, just an X legacy support layer instead. ... , we want a different WS, not a state-machine WS like X. Do you envision including xcb style asynchrony?

[dwm] dmenu + xft

2009-05-20 Thread John Yates
Attached is a patch adding xft support to dmenu 4.0. I claim no copyright as it is little more than mimicing patterns I found in Alexander Polakov's 3.4 patch and Robert Manea's dzen xft support. I have attempted to follow the suckless paradigm as much as possible (e.g. config.mk). xft support