Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
On (20/05/09 11:53), Uriel wrote: > To: dwm mail list > From: Uriel > Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list > Reply-To: dwm mail list > List-Id: dwm mail list > > The problem is not dwm@ and wmii@, the problem is all the other stuff > that is unrelated to either, the only two logical and consistent > options are to either we further split the community into st@ dws@ and > so on, or we merge everything, and I think that option is a > no-brainer. > > uriel > Well, as I said in earlier email, I'm not against merge-all-in-on, I just dislike idea of having hackers@ as sort of alias "send to all" etc. I even think that having only one ml for all (wmii+dwm+commit mails+other) would be fine for all of us. -Ph -- Premysl "Anydot" Hruby, http://www.redrum.cz/ - I'm a signature virus. Please add me to your signature and help me spread!
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
2009/5/20 Uriel : > The problem is not dwm@ and wmii@, the problem is all the other stuff > that is unrelated to either, the only two logical and consistent > options are to either we further split the community into st@ dws@ and > so on, or we merge everything, and I think that option is a > no-brainer. I agree with that, though I think we should introduce a new list. Here is what we will do: We'll keep hackers@ as is -- just commit logs. We will introduce d...@suckless.org which merges dwm@ and wmii@ into one list, and dwm@ and wmii@ will be aliases for that. On IRC we already formed #suckless @ oftc.net Kind regards, Anselm
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
The problem is not dwm@ and wmii@, the problem is all the other stuff that is unrelated to either, the only two logical and consistent options are to either we further split the community into st@ dws@ and so on, or we merge everything, and I think that option is a no-brainer. uriel On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Premysl Hruby wrote: > On (20/05/09 11:34), yy wrote: >> To: dwm mail list >> From: yy >> Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list >> Reply-To: dwm mail list >> List-Id: dwm mail list >> >> 2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy : >> > On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> >> Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, >> >> and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who >> >> are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on >> >> dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. >> > >> > dwm, wmii -> hackers >> > hackers -> dwm, wmii >> > >> > so one sends a mail to dwm@ then it goes to hackers@ then someone >> > replies there and the reply goes to w...@? >> > >> >> Maybe I'm being naive, mailing lists are not my strong point. But IMO >> you can send the messages to the people subscribed to hackers with the >> corresponding FROM: field (dwm or wmii). So, if one sends a mail to >> dwm, you recive it as coming from dwm. Since hackers subscribed recive >> mail from both lists, the reply will arrive to dwm and hackers >> subscribers. Only if you specifically send an email to hackers it will >> be received by both lists (and you could, for example, change the TO: >> field when the discussion goes off-topic). Maybe somebody knows if I'm >> right or absolutely wrong. >> >> -- >> - yiyus || JGL . >> > > Well, or you can just simply post to both dwm@ and wmii@ :) (for > example, both in to: of email). Whole this discussion is all but not > suckless :) > > -- > Premysl "Anydot" Hruby, http://www.redrum.cz/ > - > I'm a signature virus. Please add me to your signature and help me spread! > >
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
On (20/05/09 11:34), yy wrote: > To: dwm mail list > From: yy > Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list > Reply-To: dwm mail list > List-Id: dwm mail list > > 2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy : > > On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > >> Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, > >> and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who > >> are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on > >> dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. > > > > dwm, wmii -> hackers > > hackers -> dwm, wmii > > > > so one sends a mail to dwm@ then it goes to hackers@ then someone > > replies there and the reply goes to w...@? > > > > Maybe I'm being naive, mailing lists are not my strong point. But IMO > you can send the messages to the people subscribed to hackers with the > corresponding FROM: field (dwm or wmii). So, if one sends a mail to > dwm, you recive it as coming from dwm. Since hackers subscribed recive > mail from both lists, the reply will arrive to dwm and hackers > subscribers. Only if you specifically send an email to hackers it will > be received by both lists (and you could, for example, change the TO: > field when the discussion goes off-topic). Maybe somebody knows if I'm > right or absolutely wrong. > > -- > - yiyus || JGL . > Well, or you can just simply post to both dwm@ and wmii@ :) (for example, both in to: of email). Whole this discussion is all but not suckless :) -- Premysl "Anydot" Hruby, http://www.redrum.cz/ - I'm a signature virus. Please add me to your signature and help me spread!
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
2009/5/20 yy : > 2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy : >> On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >>> Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, >>> and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who >>> are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on >>> dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. >> >> dwm, wmii -> hackers >> hackers -> dwm, wmii >> >> so one sends a mail to dwm@ then it goes to hackers@ then someone >> replies there and the reply goes to w...@? >> > > Maybe I'm being naive, mailing lists are not my strong point. But IMO > you can send the messages to the people subscribed to hackers with the > corresponding FROM: field (dwm or wmii). So, if one sends a mail to > dwm, you recive it as coming from dwm. Since hackers subscribed recive > mail from both lists, the reply will arrive to dwm and hackers > subscribers. Only if you specifically send an email to hackers it will > be received by both lists (and you could, for example, change the TO: > field when the discussion goes off-topic). Maybe somebody knows if I'm > right or absolutely wrong. That's possible, though in reality people will reply to dwm@ or wmii@ and the others won't see it, which is why having one list to keep track of the discussions is better, where dwm@ and wmii@ are aliases for the same. In the beginning I'd even go that far to have the commit logs on that list as well. Kind regards, Anselm
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy : > On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, >> and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who >> are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on >> dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. > > dwm, wmii -> hackers > hackers -> dwm, wmii > > so one sends a mail to dwm@ then it goes to hackers@ then someone > replies there and the reply goes to w...@? > Maybe I'm being naive, mailing lists are not my strong point. But IMO you can send the messages to the people subscribed to hackers with the corresponding FROM: field (dwm or wmii). So, if one sends a mail to dwm, you recive it as coming from dwm. Since hackers subscribed recive mail from both lists, the reply will arrive to dwm and hackers subscribers. Only if you specifically send an email to hackers it will be received by both lists (and you could, for example, change the TO: field when the discussion goes off-topic). Maybe somebody knows if I'm right or absolutely wrong. -- - yiyus || JGL .
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
2009/5/20 Premysl Hruby : > On (20/05/09 10:04), Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> To: dwm mail list , wmii mail list >> From: Anselm R Garbe >> Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list >> Reply-To: dwm mail list >> List-Id: dwm mail list >> >> Ok, I meant the following: >> >> Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, >> and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who >> are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on >> dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. >> >> Kind regards, >> Anselm >> > > Don't forget that hackers@ receive commit emails, imho leave it as is or > join all into one ml. Idea for having one ml as sort of syndication ml > imho sux :), if someone wants to receive/send both ml, he/she can > subscribe/cc them. If commit messages become a problem, we can move them to hglog@ Kind regards, Anselm
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
On (20/05/09 10:04), Anselm R Garbe wrote: > To: dwm mail list , wmii mail list > From: Anselm R Garbe > Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list > Reply-To: dwm mail list > List-Id: dwm mail list > > Ok, I meant the following: > > Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, > and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who > are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on > dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. > > Kind regards, > Anselm > Don't forget that hackers@ receive commit emails, imho leave it as is or join all into one ml. Idea for having one ml as sort of syndication ml imho sux :), if someone wants to receive/send both ml, he/she can subscribe/cc them. -Ph -- Premysl "Anydot" Hruby, http://www.redrum.cz/ - I'm a signature virus. Please add me to your signature and help me spread!
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
Hi, 2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy : > On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, >> and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who >> are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on >> dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. > > dwm, wmii -> hackers > hackers -> dwm, wmii > > so one sends a mail to dwm@ then it goes to hackers@ then someone > replies there and the reply goes to w...@? > > imho if we merge then don't keep separate dwm and wmii lists > > if there are too many commits then commit messages may be separated > from discussions Well, let's have one list then as you propose and see how we get on. I like to see the commits side by side. Because so far there were nearly 0 discussions regarding commits, but we had plenty on dwm@ about patches. Still, the traffic won't go up like hell. Kind regards, Anselm
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, > and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who > are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on > dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. dwm, wmii -> hackers hackers -> dwm, wmii so one sends a mail to dwm@ then it goes to hackers@ then someone replies there and the reply goes to w...@? imho if we merge then don't keep separate dwm and wmii lists if there are too many commits then commit messages may be separated from discussions
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
Anselm R Garbe dixit (2009-05-20, 10:04): > Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, > and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who > are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on > dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. Sounds good. -- [a] pgpiF0E2rlwaX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
Ok, I meant the following: Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. Kind regards, Anselm 2009/5/20 Anselm R Garbe : > I think that's a sensible proposal, let's do it. > > For those who are subscribed already, there won't be a difference. The > new ones will subscribe to hackers. We will keep dwm@ and wmii@ > working, but direct it to hack...@. > > Kind regards, > Anselm > > 2009/5/20 markus schnalke : >> [2009-05-20 08:35] Uriel >>> >>> I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both >>> lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a >>> single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for >>> 'offtopic' discussion. >> >> +1 >> >> >>> Right now when one has something to say that doesn't quite fit in >>> wmii@ or dwm@, or that could fit in both, you have to pick one list at >>> random, or to cross post, and both options suck. >> >>> > > What do you think about creating an offtopic mailing list in suckless >>> > > for >>> > > discussing such >>> > > kind of topics, instead of using the dwm@ one like nowadays happen. >>> > >>> > I think it's been the charme of dwm@ to discuss lot's of other things, >> >> Yes. Merge, don't split. >> >> >> meillo >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFKE6ly6aFpZ+X9qBIRArW7AJ4sXPrq+pagoWmS2AKT032PSmqOTQCfXsgx >> b3yhcxM+v9dwI/Mo9IklZHU= >> =OWPz >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> >
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
I think that's a sensible proposal, let's do it. For those who are subscribed already, there won't be a difference. The new ones will subscribe to hackers. We will keep dwm@ and wmii@ working, but direct it to hack...@. Kind regards, Anselm 2009/5/20 markus schnalke : > [2009-05-20 08:35] Uriel >> >> I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both >> lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a >> single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for >> 'offtopic' discussion. > > +1 > > >> Right now when one has something to say that doesn't quite fit in >> wmii@ or dwm@, or that could fit in both, you have to pick one list at >> random, or to cross post, and both options suck. > >> > > What do you think about creating an offtopic mailing list in suckless for >> > > discussing such >> > > kind of topics, instead of using the dwm@ one like nowadays happen. >> > >> > I think it's been the charme of dwm@ to discuss lot's of other things, > > Yes. Merge, don't split. > > > meillo > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFKE6ly6aFpZ+X9qBIRArW7AJ4sXPrq+pagoWmS2AKT032PSmqOTQCfXsgx > b3yhcxM+v9dwI/Mo9IklZHU= > =OWPz > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > >
[dwm] Re: New mailing list
[2009-05-20 08:35] Uriel > > I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both > lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a > single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for > 'offtopic' discussion. +1 > Right now when one has something to say that doesn't quite fit in > wmii@ or dwm@, or that could fit in both, you have to pick one list at > random, or to cross post, and both options suck. > > > What do you think about creating an offtopic mailing list in suckless for > > > discussing such > > > kind of topics, instead of using the dwm@ one like nowadays happen. > > > > I think it's been the charme of dwm@ to discuss lot's of other things, Yes. Merge, don't split. meillo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
