Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-14 Thread Ray Phillips
, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX? Urb, as always, raises some good points, and I find myself pretty much in agreement with his sentiments. However, I don't think that the issue is what is DX? so much as it is what is a DXCC entity? There IS a difference. In other words, if Mt

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-13 Thread Alek Petkovic
Its FUN. That's what DX is. The frustrations, the whining, the dx cops and the bad behaviour in the pile ups all mean nothing. The fun is the only part that matters. 73, Alek, VK6APK http://profiles.yahoo.com/vk6apk Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-11 Thread N4KG
In a message dated 7/10/03 6:16:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On another front, the new DXCC is clearly the Challenge but by not starting fresh and allowing the OTs to scour their QSL files, the League missed an incentive opportunity for the relatively newer

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-11 Thread Bill Jackson
I hope that everyone who has an ax to grind with the current DXCC country criteria as it relates to Honor Roll status is also composing a well thought out, unemotional letter to their respective ARRL DX Advisory Committee members and not just "venting" here on the reflector. 73 de Bill

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-11 Thread Alan Leith
I can see that there are as many opinions about the DXCC list as there are participants (active or not). My question about Tom's ideas concerns the list of current countries (entities) -- would it be composed of countries that are or could be activated? In other words, SV (Mt. Athos), VU7, VU4,

RE: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-11 Thread Tony Martin
AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX? In a message dated 7/10/03 6:16:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On another front, the new DXCC is clearly the Challenge but by not starting fresh and allowing the OTs to scour their QSL files

RE: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-11 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) Watson
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX? In a message dated 7/10/03 6:16:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On another front, the new DXCC is clearly

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-11 Thread W0YG Charlie Summers
On 7/11/2003 Mike, W5UC, wrote: Quit whining and leave the system alone. It has it's problems, but don't we all? It has served us well since I started chasing DX in 1958. Get your shorts out of a wad and wait like the rest of us. BRAVO ZULU!!! Well put Mike! 73, Charlie, W0YG..

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-11 Thread John and Mari Minke
Carl wrote: Monk Apollo is not going to live forever...then what ? Food for thought. 73, de Carl K8AV Change entity of Mount Athos to that of Monk Apollo. Then when he dies it goes into the goodby list as the entity has ceased to exist. There! 73, de John N6JM Subscribe/unsubscribe,

[DX-CHAT] What is DX

2003-07-11 Thread ve7kb
How long is this going to go on,sure glad my delete key is still working

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX

2003-07-11 Thread John and Mari Minke
ve7kb wrote: How long is this going to go on,sure glad my delete key is still working Heck, OM, it's a DX forum. If not interested, yes do use your delete key. But, please let those who are interested to continue on. de John N6JM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX

2003-07-11 Thread WX5L
: ve7kb To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:32 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] What is DX How long is this going to go on,sure glad my delete key is still working

[DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Urb LeJeune
I totally accept the fact that I'm an old fart and that the condition colors (and reduces) my thinking process. Having said that I fail to understand some of the thinking express during the recent new country/ Mt. Athos threads. There is a danger in any discussion that the

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Zack Widup
Very wise statements, Urb. I agree 100%. I've commented on other reflectors about DXing on VHF. Seems the VHF+ ops I know are a whole different breed of cat than the HF DXers. Skill with and knowledge of conditions, luck and equipment are everything there. There are usually no pileups on

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Wt8r
In a message dated 7/10/03 5:16:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Monk Apollo is not going to live forever...then what ? Food for thought. 73, de Carl K8AV How about P5 which didn't count for a long time, then counted, then ordered off the air? Dave, WT8R

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread ATanner283
And never DID provide the documentation everyone else has to provide??? Al/W8FAX

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread N3SL
In a message dated 7/10/2003 4:44:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One tangential thought: If there are several entities that for political oradministrative reasons are off-limits for amateur operating, and have beenfor a significant (minimum 10 years) period of time,

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Zack Widup
I proposed almost the exact same thing (even to the 10 year period of no activity) several years ago but I wasn't taken seriously. I still think it's a good idea. 73, Zack W9SZ On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote: Good point. Another reason why it behooves us to be on our best

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Steve Lawrence
I too floated the idea of a suspended list many years ago and it met the same fate. Now that I revisit it: Imagine that a suspended country became active and worked, say, only three stations. It could take another 10 years or whatever the inactivity period to suspend before it was suspended

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread John Warren
Steve N3SL wrote: My basic difficulty is with the concept of an unattainable goal - and I don't mean unattainable only by me. I'm to the point of needing only VU4, and there's nothing to suggest there's a snowball's chance for that to be active. I must respectfully disagree with that

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
I guess I have mixed feelings, since I still need several of the non-workable entities. On the other hand, there was a long period when BY and ZA were not possible to work and I don't recall any serious movement to remove them from the list. Maybe folks were more patient a few years back. 73,

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread W0YG Charlie Summers
Well I got news for you about VU4. It will be active again, only a matter of time. Let me relate a story about VU4. It point out that things happen overnight that we cannot foresee. Here is the story. An Indian citizen, Mani, VU2ANI, was in Port Blair on the Andaman and Nicobar Islands

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Alan Leith
Yes, Bob, patience is what it is all about and you're right, it is in short supply these days. To brighten your day: I have a QSLs from VK0HM on Heard Is. (worked on Dec. 26, 1969) and from ZM1AAT/K on Raoul Is. in the Kermadecs (worked less than a week later on Jan. 2, 1970). I had only a few

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread N3SL
In a message dated 7/10/2003 7:36:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My basic difficulty is with the concept of an unattainable goal - and I don't mean unattainable only by me. I'm to the point of needing only VU4, and there's nothing to suggest there's a snowball's

Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX?

2003-07-10 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] What is DX? In a message dated 7/10/2003 7:36:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My basic