Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
I always useQRL ?? for what it's worth. 73,DX, Ross K5RH Tony Martin W4FOA To: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED], [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] et cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need [EMAIL PROTECTED] dxa.org 09/09/2003 10:26 AM Yes indeed Zack! I still use the .. . and hear it quite often. Due to it's brevity, it is still the best but lacking much international support, it doesn't appear to be used much outside the USA. QRL? frequently blocks a lot of intelligence whereas the .. . hardly affects anything. I say let's encourage .. . 73 Tony, W4FOA - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Larry, K4WLS wrote: We CW Ops have needed an appropriate Q Signal for years for Is the frequency in use ? Once upon a time someone tried to popularize the use of I E (didit dit) as an inquiry for Is the frequency in use? Somehow it never caught on like it was intended. I still use it now and then and I still hear others use it occasionally. It does have the advantage of occupying very little time and causing very little QRM if the frewuency is in use. 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
So do I, and EVERYBODY knows what it means. I don't see the problem. Bill W5EC I always useQRL ?? for what it's worth. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
Larry..your question sparked some interest by the troops. The fact is however that we really cannot generate Q signals just for the USA; these are international in nature. Nothing however is to prevent any operator from making a query in any manner he chooses. 73NormK1AA - Original Message - From: Steve Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Norm Gertz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need Larry, you are right that it doesn't fit. However, everyone knows exactly what it means. Can you imagine the confusion as everyone, world wide, tried to implement such a change. I learned it years ago as a novice. While it literally isn't correct, why change it if it ain't broke. I don't get it. Steve, N4JQQ Norm Gertz wrote: Larry.how about QBY?Is the freq busy? 73 NormK1AA - Original Message - From: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:06 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need Would someone at ARRL who is in a leadership position take the following for action, pass it through the hallowed halls, under that curved piece of wood, and promulgate in the right direction. Oh, Wayne Mills, what say OM ? We CW Ops have needed an appropriate Q Signal for years for Is the frequency in use ? QRL ? - Are you (your station) busy (sending/receiving traffic) ? does not fit. QRZ ? - Who (what station) is calling me ? does not fit. I though about QFU: F - Freuency, U - use. That does fit, but well we CW Ops know that at times (especially in unruly pile-ups), we hear all too many FU's. So...What about QFB ? - Is the Frequency Busy (in use) ? What say CW Ops - can anyone come up with a better one ? On SSB, Is the frequency is use ? - that's easy. We CW guys need something more fitting than QRL or QRZ ! Larry - K4WLS Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Need IOTA Info YJ0VB 10SEP03
I believe Murphy has visited my shack and hidden my IOTA directory with ALL of my entries! Until I can work out a deal with ole Murph, wonder if someone could help with a little info? This morning (9SEP), YJ0VB very active on 40 and 30 and was very reluctant to give any info, however one spot did note he was "on a new IOTA". Finally he gave the name of the island, MALEKULA ISLAND", but since I don't have my IOTA book, I am unable to come to any conclusions on the status of his operation today. Anybody help? I have a feeling that "Vlad" is doing some island hopping and not making any differentiation between one island and the other, when in the same DXCC country. For example I think in one case he was on perhaps 3 different IOTA's but the call remained the same. Maybe when he returns home he will publish some sort of "diary" and let us all catch up on exactly where he was and when. Thanks any help. 73 Tony, W4FOA
[DX-CHAT] Q signal
How about a Q signal to say We have beaten this turkey to death. Please lets go on to something important and meaningful. QRT J W7KSG Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
Good point Zack and I still prefer .. . After 50 years of DXing, I am still trying to find the REAL meaning of QSLL. It can mean only two things (I think)...I will send my card first or I will wait for your card. It seems about a 50/50 split as to the real meaning. I've never seen it written where the genuine definition is givenjust another Q signal to throw in the mix, hi. Tony, W4FOA - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Norm Gertz wrote: Larry..your question sparked some interest by the troops. The fact is however that we really cannot generate Q signals just for the USA; these are international in nature. Nothing however is to prevent any operator from making a query in any manner he chooses. 73NormK1AA As long as both parties know what is being asked, there isn't a problem. If both people understand QRL? to mean Is this freq in use?, no matter what the book says it means, then that is what it is going to mean at the moment. If everyone understands what IE? means, then that will also commnuicate. The problem is going to be with new ops who don't know what these accepted meanings are when they differ from what the book says or aren't even in the book. But I think most people who are really interested are going to find out anyway. It didn't take me too long to find out what 5NN ATT meant after my first ARRL DX contest. (I actually wrote it down like that in the log at the time.) :) 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
I think we have enough jargon already - too many codes!! :0( Tom GM4FDM - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tony Martin W4FOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need I always useQRL ?? for what it's worth. 73,DX, Ross K5RH Tony Martin W4FOA To: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED], [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] et cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need [EMAIL PROTECTED] dxa.org 09/09/2003 10:26 AM Yes indeed Zack! I still use the .. . and hear it quite often. Due to it's brevity, it is still the best but lacking much international support, it doesn't appear to be used much outside the USA. QRL? frequently blocks a lot of intelligence whereas the .. . hardly affects anything. I say let's encourage .. . 73 Tony, W4FOA - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Larry, K4WLS wrote: We CW Ops have needed an appropriate Q Signal for years for Is the frequency in use ? Once upon a time someone tried to popularize the use of I E (didit dit) as an inquiry for Is the frequency in use? Somehow it never caught on like it was intended. I still use it now and then and I still hear others use it occasionally. It does have the advantage of occupying very little time and causing very little QRM if the frewuency is in use. 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Tony Martin W4FOA wrote: Good point Zack and I still prefer .. . After 50 years of DXing, I am still trying to find the REAL meaning of QSLL. It can mean only two things (I think)...I will send my card first or I will wait for your card. It seems about a 50/50 split as to the real meaning. I've never seen it written where the genuine definition is givenjust another Q signal to throw in the mix, hi. Tony, W4FOA Hi Tony, I prefer .. . too myself. That's a good one about QSLL. From my experience, it seems to me that most people mean it as I will wait for your card. I hear that more from European operators than anywhere else. 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] dx-news
Has anyone been having trouble with dx-news? I had problems following a change in my e-mail address which Urb partially sorted but now haven't received any posts for 3 days and can't send any. Tried unsubscribing and then subscribing again but still no go. Bob G3IQF Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need
We have been in the mix about the same amount of time(45 yrs here). The only meaning for QSLL that I ever heard is I will QSL upon receipt of yours 73 Mike, W5UC At 11:10 AM 9/10/2003 -0500, Tony Martin W4FOA wrote: Good point Zack and I still prefer .. . After 50 years of DXing, I am still trying to find the REAL meaning of QSLL. It can mean only two things (I think)...I will send my card first or I will wait for your card. It seems about a 50/50 split as to the real meaning. I've never seen it written where the genuine definition is givenjust another Q signal to throw in the mix, hi. Tony, W4FOA - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] New Q Signal Need On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Norm Gertz wrote: Larry..your question sparked some interest by the troops. The fact is however that we really cannot generate Q signals just for the USA; these are international in nature. Nothing however is to prevent any operator from making a query in any manner he chooses. 73 Norm K1AA As long as both parties know what is being asked, there isn't a problem. If both people understand QRL? to mean Is this freq in use?, no matter what the book says it means, then that is what it is going to mean at the moment. If everyone understands what IE? means, then that will also commnuicate. The problem is going to be with new ops who don't know what these accepted meanings are when they differ from what the book says or aren't even in the book. But I think most people who are really interested are going to find out anyway. It didn't take me too long to find out what 5NN ATT meant after my first ARRL DX contest. (I actually wrote it down like that in the log at the time.) :) 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Age and treachery will overcome youth and skill Outbound mail checked by Norton Anti-Virus 2003
Re: [DX-CHAT] dx-news
Hello Bob: Got last message on Sept 09 relative KM9D. Bes regards Fred - PY7ZZ vc3-Mensagem Original- De: Robert Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: Quarta-feira, 10 de Setembro de 2003 14:13 Assunto: [DX-CHAT] dx-news Has anyone been having trouble with dx-news? I had problems following a change in my e-mail address which Urb partially sorted but now haven't received any posts for 3 days and can't send any. Tried unsubscribing and then subscribing again but still no go. Bob G3IQF Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Need IOTA Info YJ0VB 10SEP03
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 08:13:40AM -0500, Tony Martin W4FOA wrote: I believe Murphy has visited my shack and hidden my IOTA directory with ALL of my entries! Until I can work out a deal with ole Murph, wonder if someone could help with a little info? This morning (9SEP), YJ0VB very active on 40 and 30 and was very reluctant to give any info, however one spot did note he was on a new IOTA. Finally he gave the name of the island, MALEKULA ISLAND, but since I don't have my IOTA book, I am unable to come to any conclusions on the status of his operation today. Anybody help? I have a feeling that Vlad is doing some island hopping and not making any differentiation between one island and the other, when in the same DXCC country. For example I think in one case he was on perhaps 3 different IOTA's but the call remained the same. Maybe when he returns home he will publish some sort of diary and let us all catch up on exactly where he was and when. Thanks any help. 73 Tony, W4FOA Malakula is listed as part of New Hebrides, OC-035 in my 2000 directory. 73, Bob -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY n7xy (at) n7xy.net Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.n7xy.net NA-065, WA-028S Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] New Q Signal - QRT
H.many times good intentions end up with just that, good intentions. To my knowledge, we amateurs world-wide can adopt any operating practice we like as long as: 1. That practice is withinin the guidelines of the laws and regulations governing the issuance and use of our license. 2. That practice is in keeping with the spirit, fraternalism, and international good-will of amateur radio. Since ?? and QRL?? don't seem to be too badly broken on the bands, most of you have said, Why fix them ? Thanks all for your imput !! With all the changes in the world in the past 100 years, isn't it great to know that the original form of RF communications, CW, is still very much alive and thriving well. Thanks and Good DX All,Larry K4WLS Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
