[DX-CHAT] The ARRL

2007-03-14 Thread John Warren
I really don't understand the anti-ARRL attitude which is quite 
common in the DXing and contesting community. And it can be quite 
bitter, as we've just seen in the 7O1YGF discussion on another 
reflector.


Now I'll agree that the ARRL is not perfect, in fact far from it. 
Many years ago, I decided not to become a life-member, because I 
disagreed strongly with one of their key positions. I played along 
each year, ready to jump ship if necessary. Fortunately they came to 
their senses and corrected that position.   I would have saved a lot 
of money if I had become a life-member way back!


My point is that ARRL CHANGED, because the consensus of its members 
changed. The ARRL is not them, it's us! If you don't like the 
positions taken by your board member, tell him or her, and be 
prepared to stand for election next time to see if your views get 
accepted. But despite its imperfections, ARRL represents amateur 
radio worldwide (not just in the USA) better than any other 
organization, including IARU.


A particular point of criticism seems to be the DXCC branch, and the 
way it deals with DXpeditions and potential new DXCC Entities. As a 
member of the DX Advisory Committee, I'd agree that some of the 
executive decisions appear on occasion to be arbitrary (7O1YGF, BS7H, 
etc). But for better or worse there are some key threads which 
explain most of them: Take the long-term view; Support governments 
and national amateur radio organizations; And above all try not to 
risk the integrity of the #1 award in ham radio (memories of Romeo 
still hurt!).


So, when you bash ARRL and especially DXCC, expect me to tune out folks.

73, John, NT5C.


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RE: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL

2007-03-14 Thread Ragnar Otterstad
BRAVO !!

73  Rag  LA5HE , ARRL life member




My point is that ARRL CHANGED, because the consensus of its members 
changed. The ARRL is not them, it's us! If you don't like the 
positions taken by your board member, tell him or her, and be 
prepared to stand for election next time to see if your views get 
accepted. 


But despite its imperfections, ARRL represents amateur 
radio worldwide (not just in the USA) better than any other 
organization, including IARU.

I disagree here !

A particular point of criticism seems to be the DXCC branch, and the 
way it deals with DXpeditions and potential new DXCC Entities. As a 
member of the DX Advisory Committee, I'd agree that some of the 
executive decisions appear on occasion to be arbitrary (7O1YGF, BS7H, 
etc). 

Remember, this is only a  game !!!

But for better or worse there are some key threads which 
explain most of them: Take the long-term view; Support governments 
and national amateur radio organizations; And above all try not to 
risk the integrity of the #1 award in ham radio (memories of Romeo 
still hurt!).

So, when you bash ARRL and especially DXCC, expect me to tune out folks.

73, John, NT5C.




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RE: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL

2007-03-14 Thread john

This might be appropriate if it was true.

Please show one published poll in QST where the membership was polled and 
the results mandated  ARRL to get rid of, or minimize the code test.


Answer: (there were none)

There were multiple polls both on-line and otherwise, that showed exactly 
the opposite. I had this exchange about 3 years ago with Mr Haynie, who 
also could only produce membership polls that showed strong support for 
retaining the code test.


Likewise the recent proposal to micromanage  band allocation by 
mode/bandwidth. It was NOT supported by the membership, or anyone else 
other than the WinLink folks, yet it had the strong support of the ARRL.


John K5MO



My point is that ARRL CHANGED, because the consensus of its members
changed.




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[DX-CHAT] NCDXF beacon system.

2007-03-14 Thread lmecseri -KE1F

I have not heard a beacon on 14,100 MHz for days. Is 4U1UN operating?

73s

Lou   KE1F


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Re: [DX-CHAT] NCDXF beacon system.

2007-03-14 Thread David Kozinn, K2DBK

Yes, I just heard the 4U1UN beacon about 30 seconds ago. Of course, that
says nothing about propagation since I'm only about 20 miles by air from
there, but I can verify that it's operating on 14.100.

73,
   David, K2DBK

On 3/14/07, lmecseri -KE1F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have not heard a beacon on 14,100 MHz for days. Is 4U1UN operating?

73s

Lou   KE1F


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[DX-CHAT] DX not hrd

2007-03-14 Thread Charles Harpole

March 3, 2007

Heard 12 stateside  stations at HS0ZCW, and FOUR of those called empty 
unanswered CQs at length while I answered all of them 20 calls each  
from me by count.  During DX contest this date.


Worked NH IN WVA MD PA and AZ.

Called others 20 times but not heard by W4ZMU, N8TR, WA3EKL and KT3Y.  I 
would have loved to give each station my HS mult, but was not heard.


Moral-- if stateside stations want S E Asia mults, they gotta LISTEN this 
way  73


Charles Harpole
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Re: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL

2007-03-14 Thread Jerry Keller
Double BRAVO!!  The ARRL may not always be right about everything, but it 
has done more to promote and sustain ham radio than any other 
organization... certainly in this country and maybeworldwide as well.  The 
ARRL has been one of the first and foremost, and has been a model for the 
national amateur radio organizations of many other countries.  Everyone's 
entitled to an opinion, but I'm really, really tired of seeing the ARRL run 
down all the time. I have no doubt whatsoever that there would be no ham

radio in this country without the ARRL.

73, Jerry K3BZ

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From: Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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BRAVO !!

73  Rag  LA5HE , ARRL life member




My point is that ARRL CHANGED, because the consensus of its members
changed. The ARRL is not them, it's us! If you don't like the
positions taken by your board member, tell him or her, and be
prepared to stand for election next time to see if your views get
accepted.


But despite its imperfections, ARRL represents amateur
radio worldwide (not just in the USA) better than any other
organization, including IARU.

I disagree here !

A particular point of criticism seems to be the DXCC branch, and the
way it deals with DXpeditions and potential new DXCC Entities. As a
member of the DX Advisory Committee, I'd agree that some of the
executive decisions appear on occasion to be arbitrary (7O1YGF, BS7H,
etc).

Remember, this is only a  game !!!

But for better or worse there are some key threads which
explain most of them: Take the long-term view; Support governments
and national amateur radio organizations; And above all try not to
risk the integrity of the #1 award in ham radio (memories of Romeo
still hurt!).

So, when you bash ARRL and especially DXCC, expect me to tune out folks.

73, John, NT5C.




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