Re: [DX-CHAT] A public apology to ND1L
I can't see why he took offence at your forwarding this reply. He doesn't seem like a grumpy guy but maybe he was just having a grumpy day :-) Surely he'd have sent the same reply to me if I'd asked? And everyone else here? If you want something kept confidential you should say so. cheers Dave G0OIL harris_ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We might all note that Bill appears to be a subscriber to this list. For some reason, Bill took umbrage (no, he was REALLY PO'd) at my forwarding his quite reasonable response to my eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in this reflector. I didn't see anything personal, nasty or even defensive in his reply to me, and I posted it to the Reflector in its entirety, without comment one way or the other. Of course, I sent my original question to the LEAGUE, and not to Bill personally. Since the LEAGUE is OUR association, I didn't give a second thought to printing the LEAGUE'S response to this question and subsequent discussion here. In fact, some of you have since privately eMailed me thanking me for publishing the League's response. Apparently, I should have been more discreet and paraphrased the response instead of quoting it. My apologies to Bill for, if nothing else, bringing him into this discussion. Additionally, because of my many years of professional typesetting experience, I have also sent Bill a few suggestions as to how MUCH more data may be fit into less space. I have never seen any Yearbook that didn't list the members of the class, BTW. I'm done with this subject. Bill can ream me out personally the next time I bring a batch of cards up to Newington (hello, BS7H). Harris N2ERN Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-NEWS] Posting a message from a third party.
If you want something kept confidential you should say so. Not so. In the United States courts have rules that a communications from one individual to another is protected under US and International copyright law because it is legally a publication of one's intellectual property. Publication of someone's copyrighted material, such as an email message, without their EXPLICIT authorization is a violation of both US and International law and grounds for suit. Please refrain from posting a message from a third party on either DX-News or DX-Chat. The NJDXA does not want to become a defendant to a law suit. Urb, W2DEC -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options --
Re: [DX-CHAT] Posting a message from a third party.
Oh please this is ridiculous ! John K5MO At 05:11 AM 7/25/2007, Urb LeJeune wrote: Publication of someone's copyrighted material, such as an email message, without their EXPLICIT authorization is a violation of both US and International law and grounds for suit. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] ham meets Dallas in Aug???
Any DX ham radio meetings from Aug. 5 to 18 in the DFW area ??? Dallas to u other guys. I will again be in usa that time period. tnx. Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
In looking back at past issues of the DXCC Yearbook, I find that the 1993 (my first year in it), the DXCC Listing was 19 pages long. The 2002 issue had 27 pages to the list. It is obvious that participation has grown quite a bit over the years, and you would think that ARRL DXCC would enjoy this and want to nurture it. DXCC Challenge is something new that they came up with and started promoting heavily around 2004. Its 12 pages replaced the DXCC listing in that issue, and the DXCC Listing has never returned. The DXCC Challenge list has now been removed and replaced by the 5 page 160M DXCC List (what do we need this for with its limited number of participants). The rest of the 32 page Yearbook contains DXpedition related articles like we get every month in How's DX. There are many DX reports that contain this kind of information and we don't need the DXCC Yearbook to just get more of it. Let Bernie do it in his column, and put the DXCC Lists back in the Yearbook. It is what the Yearbook was all about a few years ago, and it should be returned to that status. Sincerely John Owens - N7TK Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
AMEN John: Last year when I complained that the annual DXCC listings were missing, a part of the explanation I got verbally from a particular League official, was that the DX Challenge is now the premier DX Award in the league DX program. Pardon my French, but BS. That's a matter of opinion. Challenge may possibly be attracting more attention, but Challenge is the newest big thing. I would expect that there would naturally be a flurry of new activity there. DXCC, however, is still the original, and IMHO, the most prestigious of the DX awards. (don't challenge me with the merits of all of your favorite awards; I don't want to hear it) I also, don't know who,when, decided that the Yearbook needed to look like Parade Magazine in my Sunday paper, with a lengthy review of all of the news I saw on Fox News this past week. Please, just take it back to it's original form and leave it alone. It really would be nice if people would quit trying to discover a way to destroy the few remaining traditions we have left. I'm so sick I want to puke from operators ending correspondence on air communications with 73's. The term is 73; please learn what it means, and use it correctly, and please leave the Yearbook tradition alone 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Mike: I couldn't have expressed it better than you have. DXCC has a 40+year (that I know of) history and it is the pinnacle of DX awards. I don't participate in DXCC Challenge as it takes way to much time to make a dent in the standings. More power to those who do like it. I have, however, put 15 years of my life pursuing a high position on the DXCC List, and many others have put many more years in the same pursuit. Some people become SK's before the get to the top of it, and that may well happen to me. When you become a SK and your call sign ceases to be active, you fall off the list. It is a badge of honor to be high on the list, and the ultimate distinction is to reach the top. That remains my goal. The DXCC List in the Yearbook is our report card in this pursuit and it, if nothing else, should be in the DXCC Yearbook. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You and I are not alone in this feeling. Sincerely John Owens - N7TK -- Original message -- From: Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] AMEN John: Last year when I complained that the annual DXCC listings were missing, a part of the explanation I got verbally from a particular League official, was that the DX Challenge is now the premier DX Award in the league DX program. Pardon my French, but BS. That's a matter of opinion. Challenge may possibly be attracting more attention, but Challenge is the newest big thing. I would expect that there would naturally be a flurry of new activity there. DXCC, however, is still the original, and IMHO, the most prestigious of the DX awards. (don't challenge me with the merits of all of your favorite awards; I don't want to hear it) I also, don't know who,when, decided that the Yearbook needed to look like Parade Magazine in my Sunday paper, with a lengthy review of all of the news I saw on Fox News this past week. Please, just take it back to it's original form and leave it alone. It really would be nice if people would quit trying to discover a way to destroy the few remaining traditions we have left. I'm so sick I want to puke from operators ending correspondence on air communications with 73's. The term is 73; please learn what it means, and use it correctly, and please leave the Yearbook tradition alone 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] A public apology to ND1L
That's what every email I have ever received from Bill had written at the bottom of his emails.. Bill is a real gentleman and does not get grumpy.. I'm the same way ;-)73 DX! Ron Bernie McClenny, W3UR wrote: Harris, Did the email you received from NC1L (not ND1L), Bill, say This message may not be re-transmitted in whole or in part without prior permission of the sender.? 73 Bernie Bernie McClenny, W3UR -- Now more than ever - you need The Daily DX and The Weekly DX - to keep up with the DX news from around the globe! Editor of - The Daily DX -- two free weeks http://www.dailydx.com/order.htm - The Weekly DX -- free sample http://www.dailydx.com/weekly2.html - How's DX http://www.dailydx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of harris_ruben Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 18:26 To: dx-chat List Subject: [DX-CHAT] A public apology to ND1L We might all note that Bill appears to be a subscriber to this list. For some reason, Bill took umbrage (no, he was REALLY PO'd) at my forwarding his quite reasonable response to my eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in this reflector. I didn't see anything personal, nasty or even defensive in his reply to me, and I posted it to the Reflector in its entirety, without comment one way or the other. Of course, I sent my original question to the LEAGUE, and not to Bill personally. Since the LEAGUE is OUR association, I didn't give a second thought to printing the LEAGUE'S response to this question and subsequent discussion here. In fact, some of you have since privately eMailed me thanking me for publishing the League's response. Apparently, I should have been more discreet and paraphrased the response instead of quoting it. My apologies to Bill for, if nothing else, bringing him into this discussion. Additionally, because of my many years of professional typesetting experience, I have also sent Bill a few suggestions as to how MUCH more data may be fit into less space. I have never seen any Yearbook that didn't list the members of the class, BTW. I'm done with this subject. Bill can ream me out personally the next time I bring a batch of cards up to Newington (hello, BS7H). Harris N2ERN Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] privileged communications
There was a time when communications between amateurs could not be divulged to the public. vy 73, Nick W9UM The enemy does not understand the dichotomy of our society, but they should understand this; we will bandage our wounds, we will bury our dead; and then we will come for you . . . and we will destroy you and all you stand for. Brian Shul, Air Force SR71 pilot Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
I'll say again, you assume all dx'ers have the internet. The internet is not available for most African locations unless you live in a large African city. The same is true for South America. A lot of rural locations in the US does not have internet available-thus the FCC wants BPL. Nothing strokes the ego like seeing your call in print in a publication that you share with the other top dx'ers. Jim - Original Message - From: Tim Heger To: DX Chat Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook Why not just make the Yearbook available as a .pdf file. It could easily be whatever number of pages is needed for all listings to be shown. Then anyone wanting a paper copy just needs to print it out. 73, Tim - N3XX - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX Chat Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook In looking back at past issues of the DXCC Yearbook, I find that the 1993 (my first year in it), the DXCC Listing was 19 pages long. The 2002 issue had 27 pages to the list. It is obvious that participation has grown quite a bit over the years, and you would think that ARRL DXCC would enjoy this and want to nurture it. DXCC Challenge is something new that they came up with and started promoting heavily around 2004. Its 12 pages replaced the DXCC listing in that issue, and the DXCC Listing has never returned. The DXCC Challenge list has now been removed and replaced by the 5 page 160M DXCC List (what do we need this for with its limited number of participants). The rest of the 32 page Yearbook contains DXpedition related articles like we get every month in How's DX. There are many DX reports that contain this kind of information and we don't need the DXCC Yearbook to just get more of it. Let Bernie do it in his column, and put the DXCC Lists back in the Yearbook. It is what the Yearbook was all about a few years ago, and it should be returned to that status. Sincerely John Owens - N7TK Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/917 - Release Date: 7/25/2007 1:16 AM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Why not just make the Yearbook available as a .pdf file. It could easily be whatever number of pages is needed for all listings to be shown. Then anyone wanting a paper copy just needs to print it out. 73, Tim - N3XX - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX Chat Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook In looking back at past issues of the DXCC Yearbook, I find that the 1993 (my first year in it), the DXCC Listing was 19 pages long. The 2002 issue had 27 pages to the list. It is obvious that participation has grown quite a bit over the years, and you would think that ARRL DXCC would enjoy this and want to nurture it. DXCC Challenge is something new that they came up with and started promoting heavily around 2004. Its 12 pages replaced the DXCC listing in that issue, and the DXCC Listing has never returned. The DXCC Challenge list has now been removed and replaced by the 5 page 160M DXCC List (what do we need this for with its limited number of participants). The rest of the 32 page Yearbook contains DXpedition related articles like we get every month in How's DX. There are many DX reports that contain this kind of information and we don't need the DXCC Yearbook to just get more of it. Let Bernie do it in his column, and put the DXCC Lists back in the Yearbook. It is what the Yearbook was all about a few years ago, and it should be returned to that status. Sincerely John Owens - N7TK Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
What he said (Pete beat me to it)... but let me add this: I have read over the years that when statistics are compiled for the political goniffs at the US Capitol, on average a single letter from a single person (not an email, phone call, form letter, or name on a petition) is considered equivalent to representing a minimum of 1000 other people. Yeah... at least 1000 other people who feel the same way but didn't bother to write. So: I would strongly suggest that if you have strong feelings -- either way -- about the DXCC Yearbook, it's current format content, and it's future... calmly explain to the DXCC Desk how you feel and why (anger will do no good, reason will)... and mail it today. Oh, and make copies and send them to your Division Director and Vice Director too. I don't know if the 1:1001 ratio holds true in the Amateur ranks, but just imagine the impact if most or all subscribers to this list, and others who feel the same way, make their wishes known. After all... Newington is NOT the League. It is merely the staff administrative Headquarters. WE, the members, ARE the League. So it is up to US to tell our representatives -- the Section Managers, the Division Directors, the Officers, the Staff -- what we want. Otherwise, they will react as they best see fit, and react based on the input from others that they DO get. Oh yes... not only tell them how you feel, but add how you think they can accomplish this. (Me? I lack standing to have an opinion. Since I have continued to procrastinate and never did get around to sending in my cards to apply for DXCC in any form, I have yet to see a DXCC Yearbook, so I have no way of knowing what's different, what's missing, what doesn't belong, and how to improve it. So I can't lead by example on this one, but don't let MY procrastination stop you from doing this!) 73, ron w3wn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:17 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook Many on this reflector have made some excellent points on this topic. I would suggest these comments be put in writing to Newington (preferably by snail-mail) rather than preaching to the choir here. My letter is going out in tomorrow's post, and I would urge others to do likewise. Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Works for me. Don't need to chop down trees for those of us on the Net and don't need to see our call in print. Gerry VE6LB - Original Message - From: Tim Heger To: DX Chat Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook Why not just make the Yearbook available as a .pdf file. It could easily be whatever number of pages is needed for all listings to be shown. Then anyone wanting a paper copy just needs to print it out. 73, Tim - N3XX - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX Chat Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook In looking back at past issues of the DXCC Yearbook, I find that the 1993 (my first year in it), the DXCC Listing was 19 pages long. The 2002 issue had 27 pages to the list. It is obvious that participation has grown quite a bit over the years, and you would think that ARRL DXCC would enjoy this and want to nurture it. DXCC Challenge is something new that they came up with and started promoting heavily around 2004. Its 12 pages replaced the DXCC listing in that issue, and the DXCC Listing has never returned. The DXCC Challenge list has now been removed and replaced by the 5 page 160M DXCC List (what do we need this for with its limited number of participants). The rest of the 32 page Yearbook contains DXpedition related articles like we get every month in How's DX. There are many DX reports that contain this kind of information and we don't need the DXCC Yearbook to just get more of it. Let Bernie do it in his column, and put the DXCC Lists back in the Yearbook. It is what the Yearbook was all about a few years ago, and it should be returned to that status. Sincerely John Owens - N7TK Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] new DXers
Since January, I have been conducting an experiment to see if there are many new DXers in usa after the change in licensing tests. I have run rapid contact style calls on 20meters SSB, signing HS0ZCW. Getting 20 over 9 reports to me during openings encouraged me to continue despite my receiving most NA contacts at low sig levels. I set out to provide Thailand to those new folks everywhere, reasoning that all big guns have HS with multiple confirms (QSLs). Incoming QSL cards here now accumulating have many comments like first HS been calling u for months etc., with gratitude for their first HS contact. And many list 100watts and a dipole as gear. Such contacts are very gratifying to me. The fact that there are still big pile ups for an HS 20m SSB contact may tell us something about DXing today. However, my theory abt why I get huge EU pile ups I explain more to boredom than a rare one. That is, we all know the bands are open but few are on, a phenomena these days. So, I guess EU calls me because I am the only DX they can hear that hour and better oh hum DX than no DX. Some thoughts.. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
It's all about dumb it down and try to appeal to the new breed of hams. Did you see the latest Antenna Issue of QST? All those VHF antenna projects are a joke. While ARRL wants to appeal to the shack on the belt gang, to increase the membership roster, do they really think they would or could build anything? And a hearty Best Wisheses to you Mike :.) 73, Barry Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) wrote: It really would be nice if people would quit trying to discover a way to destroy the few remaining traditions we have left. I'm so sick I want to puke from operators ending correspondence on air communications with 73's. The term is 73; please learn what it means, and use it correctly, and please leave the Yearbook tradition alone 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Many on this reflector have made some excellent points on this topic. I would suggest these comments be put in writing to Newington (preferably by snail-mail) rather than preaching to the choir here. My letter is going out in tomorrow's post, and I would urge others to do likewise. Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
