[DX-CHAT] IRCs agn...
Just went through a session at our local PO re redeeming the soon to expire IRCs. The postal clerks all work through a computer program which is used as inventory/cost etc control. I went in with some IRCs and they could not figure out how to get the computers system to take care of the transaction. So...if the computer program dies the PO must be shut down as it's the only way transactions can be recorded into the system. At least...that the way it was explained to me. The are stuck on square zero WRT dealing with IRCs until somebody in their mgmt sys tells them how to enter the transaction into their computer prog. So...I went back to the house with IRCs still in hand and have to wait until they can figure out how to deal with their computer system. I hope they can do this in the 3 months left to cash the expiring IRCs before the expiry date. I'll try and pass the info on so you all will not have to go through what I just did... 73/dx steve, k8wk *** --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn...
I feel your pain. My local post orifice morons barely understand the concept of IRCs, let alone what to do with them. There's only one clerk there who has a clue and I'll only deal with her. Yesterday I went in to buy a quantity of the new ones (with the 2012 expiration) and she tried to sell me the ones that expire this year. When I explained that they'll be worthless paper in under three months she just shrugged and said the manager won't order any new ones till all of the old ones are sold. And of course, said manager is *never* in when I ask for him. I'm just glad 90% of what I need to do at the PO I can do online or at the machine in the 24-hour lobby. If only I could get my IRCs and 61-cent stamps this way and mail out Media Mail parcels, I'd never need to actually enter a post orifice again. --- Regards, Peter, W2IRT -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Litwins Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 2:41 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn... Just went through a session at our local PO re redeeming the soon to expire IRCs. The postal clerks all work through a computer program which is used as inventory/cost etc control. I went in with some IRCs and they could not figure out how to get the computers system to take care of the transaction. So...if the computer program dies the PO must be shut down as it's the only way transactions can be recorded into the system. At least...that the way it was explained to me. The are stuck on square zero WRT dealing with IRCs until somebody in their mgmt sys tells them how to enter the transaction into their computer prog. So...I went back to the house with IRCs still in hand and have to wait until they can figure out how to deal with their computer system. I hope they can do this in the 3 months left to cash the expiring IRCs before the expiry date. I'll try and pass the info on so you all will not have to go through what I just did... 73/dx steve, k8wk *** --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn...
Please download US Postal Bulletin PR 22267, September 10, 2009, from http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/bulletin/2009/pb22267/pdf/pb22267.pdf Take pages 11 and 12 with you to the PO and courteously ask the counter clerk to read them. Today I exchanged over a hundred old IRCs and purchased fifty new ones. The counter clerk thanked me profusely for bringing in those two pages as it saved her a lot of work. She admitted that this was new to her and a valuable learning experience. Alternatively, you can move to Carson City, Nevada, where I already have them trained. :) Dick At 11:40 AM 10/9/2009, Steve Litwins wrote: Just went through a session at our local PO re redeeming the soon to expire IRCs. The postal clerks all work through a computer program which is used as inventory/cost etc control. I went in with some IRCs and they could not figure out how to get the computers system to take care of the transaction. So...if the computer program dies the PO must be shut down as it's the only way transactions can be recorded into the system. At least...that the way it was explained to me. The are stuck on square zero WRT dealing with IRCs until somebody in their mgmt sys tells them how to enter the transaction into their computer prog. So...I went back to the house with IRCs still in hand and have to wait until they can figure out how to deal with their computer system. I hope they can do this in the 3 months left to cash the expiring IRCs before the expiry date. I'll try and pass the info on so you all will not have to go through what I just did... 73/dx steve, k8wk *** -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Re: IRCs agn...
I continue to be amazed at the effort which some DXers make trying to understand and use IRCs. I would never even contemplate buying or using one. Just the good old green stamps for me. Every once in a while I re-stock with $2 bills from my bank (plus some extra $1s for DL). Seem to work perfectly everywhere, including places where they are said to be illegal. Those folks don't hoard them, they just recirculate them for their own QSLing. Has anyone ever heard of a DXer being jailed for receiving $2 in a QSL ? And my return ratio for cards which I really need is 100%. And then of course there's LoTW. Same goes for mint postage stamps. How do you keep track of the weekly increases in postage rates ? 73, John, NT5C. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn...
I think I'll wait till they start trickling out through QSL managers, which is how I get most of my IRCs in the first place. I had 17 to get out between June and now and I probably won't need to send another card out (other than K4M) until the new year.s --- Regards, Peter, W2IRT -Original Message- From: Wally [mailto:wallyc...@comcast.net] On Behalf Of w1...@cooledge.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:38 PM To: w2...@verizon.net; litwi...@cox.net; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn... For my IRC's I mail to this person rhode.p.ista...@usps.gov She is at PO in RI and can get you the new IRC's. All you want. About a one week turnaround. W1ioo Wally -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:14 PM To: litwi...@cox.net; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn... I feel your pain. My local post orifice morons barely understand the concept of IRCs, let alone what to do with them. There's only one clerk there who has a clue and I'll only deal with her. Yesterday I went in to buy a quantity of the new ones (with the 2012 expiration) and she tried to sell me the ones that expire this year. When I explained that they'll be worthless paper in under three months she just shrugged and said the manager won't order any new ones till all of the old ones are sold. And of course, said manager is *never* in when I ask for him. I'm just glad 90% of what I need to do at the PO I can do online or at the machine in the 24-hour lobby. If only I could get my IRCs and 61-cent stamps this way and mail out Media Mail parcels, I'd never need to actually enter a post orifice again. --- Regards, Peter, W2IRT -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Litwins Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 2:41 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn... Just went through a session at our local PO re redeeming the soon to expire IRCs. The postal clerks all work through a computer program which is used as inventory/cost etc control. I went in with some IRCs and they could not figure out how to get the computers system to take care of the transaction. So...if the computer program dies the PO must be shut down as it's the only way transactions can be recorded into the system. At least...that the way it was explained to me. The are stuck on square zero WRT dealing with IRCs until somebody in their mgmt sys tells them how to enter the transaction into their computer prog. So...I went back to the house with IRCs still in hand and have to wait until they can figure out how to deal with their computer system. I hope they can do this in the 3 months left to cash the expiring IRCs before the expiry date. I'll try and pass the info on so you all will not have to go through what I just did... 73/dx steve, k8wk *** --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
RE: [DX-CHAT] IRCs agn...
At 12:14 PM 10/9/2009, Peter Dougherty wrote: ...the manager won't order any new ones till all of the old ones are sold. According to page 11 of the previously mentioned US Postal Bulletin PR 22267 http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/bulletin/2009/pb22267/pdf/pb22267.pdf the manager is prevented from selling any of the old ones after October 15 and should have already returned his remaining stock of them to his sources by October 1. You may want to make an appointment to sit down with your local Postmaster. Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: IRCs agn...
I certainly agree with John -NT5C. Why anyone would bother with IRC' s has always surprised me. I' ve used nothing but $ 1.00 and $ 2.00 US currency for all of the dx qsl' ing I' ve done, which has encompassed # 1 Honor Roll. Why bother with trying to educate the postal service about their own products when its just not necessary. Each to his own, though, I suppose. 73, Kent - K4MK - Original Message - From: John Warren n...@texas.net To: dx-chat dx-chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Re: IRCs agn... I continue to be amazed at the effort which some DXers make trying to understand and use IRCs. I would never even contemplate buying or using one. Just the good old green stamps for me. Every once in a while I re-stock with $2 bills from my bank (plus some extra $1s for DL). Seem to work perfectly everywhere, including places where they are said to be illegal. Those folks don't hoard them, they just recirculate them for their own QSLing. Has anyone ever heard of a DXer being jailed for receiving $2 in a QSL ? And my return ratio for cards which I really need is 100%. And then of course there's LoTW. Same goes for mint postage stamps. How do you keep track of the weekly increases in postage rates ? 73, John, NT5C. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---