Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
Here's the link to the Club Fed report: http://resourcescommittee.house.gov/democrats/backgrounders/clubfedreport.pdf 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
Note what state Congressman Nick Rahall (mentioned in the report) is from. This is the same state mentioned by N3KS at Dayton as the state where the original complaint was registered which caused the operation to be terminated. Any detectives out there? 73, Zack W9SZ On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Zack Widup wrote: Here's the link to the Club Fed report: http://resourcescommittee.house.gov/democrats/backgrounders/clubfedreport.pdf 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
Zack Widup wrote: Note what state Congressman Nick Rahall (mentioned in the report) is from. This is the same state mentioned by N3KS at Dayton as the state where the original complaint was registered which caused the operation to be terminated. Any detectives out there? 73, Zack W9SZ Just curious. Say you find who the culprit is. What did you all plan, hiring a hit man? Maybe just a lynching? Or are you just pounding your chests and trying to make yourselves feel macho? -- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ http://www.blurty.com/users/w2agn CRUSTY OLD CURMUDGEON, AND PROUD OF IT (AGN and AGN? are Trademarks of John L. Sielke and may not be used without permission) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
If it were found to be that the person did it deliberately (sabotage or jealousy, etc) they should be removed from the DXCC program! Also if I knew the person was living in my area he/she would be shunned from any activities by me or my clubs! I would never work them again and a QSL couldn't be issued to so a low life. The person(s) who did this did more damage to Amateur Radio, DXCC and DXing than someone who operated illegally from a rare one. We don't need that type of person(?) involved in AR or DX. 73 Bernie Bernie McClenny, W3UR Now more than ever - you need The Daily DX and The Weekly DX - to keep up with the DX news from around the globe! Editor of - The Daily DX -- two free weeks http://www.dailydx.com/order.htm - The Weekly DX -- free sample http://www.dailydx.com/weekly2.html - How's DX http://www.dailydx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W2AGN Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:58 To: Zack Widup Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess Zack Widup wrote: Note what state Congressman Nick Rahall (mentioned in the report) is from. This is the same state mentioned by N3KS at Dayton as the state where the original complaint was registered which caused the operation to be terminated. Any detectives out there? 73, Zack W9SZ Just curious. Say you find who the culprit is. What did you all plan, hiring a hit man? Maybe just a lynching? Or are you just pounding your chests and trying to make yourselves feel macho? -- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ http://www.blurty.com/users/w2agn CRUSTY OLD CURMUDGEON, AND PROUD OF IT (AGN and AGN? are Trademarks of John L. Sielke and may not be used without permission) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
I believe he should be banned from DXCC for life for unsportsmanlike conduct. I know some people take DXCC very seriously, but a hit man is a little much :.) He should be treated like the gold old boys in West Virginia treat those who stick their nose in where it doesn't belong ... either shot or pushed down an abandoned mine shaft never to be heard from again. For this fool, whoever he is, to waste as much of out tax dollars as was wasted on the Club Fed report on a private vendetta is obscene. 73, ... Joe, W4TV Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:APtfHIQfJTEJ:lists.contesting.com/piper mail/sedxc/2004-November/001602.html+%22GARRY+RITCHIE%22hl=engl=usct=clnk cd=19ie=UTF-8 Interesting no doubt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WC7N Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:28 PM To: Joe Subich, W4TV; 'Barry'; 'W2AGN' Cc: 'Zack Widup'; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess Figure by now some one would have figured how many hams were is the district,how many had hf license and how many of those were dx'er Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Barry' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'W2AGN' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Zack Widup' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess I believe he should be banned from DXCC for life for unsportsmanlike conduct. I know some people take DXCC very seriously, but a hit man is a little much :.) He should be treated like the gold old boys in West Virginia treat those who stick their nose in where it doesn't belong ... either shot or pushed down an abandoned mine shaft never to be heard from again. For this fool, whoever he is, to waste as much of out tax dollars as was wasted on the Club Fed report on a private vendetta is obscene. 73, ... Joe, W4TV Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
FYI, In conversation after the Dayton DX Banquet, Kam stated he did not mean a Ham in WV..To him a Rahall constituant meant any American citizen.. in fact he said the Ham who complained was a W4 Mac, W8XF http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:APtfHIQfJTEJ:lists.contesting.com/piper mail/sedxc/2004-November/001602.html+%22GARRY+RITCHIE%22hl=engl=usct=clnk cd=19ie=UTF-8 Interesting no doubt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WC7N Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:28 PM To: Joe Subich, W4TV; 'Barry'; 'W2AGN' Cc: 'Zack Widup'; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess Figure by now some one would have figured how many hams were is the district,how many had hf license and how many of those were dx'er Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Barry' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'W2AGN' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Zack Widup' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess I believe he should be banned from DXCC for life for unsportsmanlike conduct. I know some people take DXCC very seriously, but a hit man is a little much :.) He should be treated like the gold old boys in West Virginia treat those who stick their nose in where it doesn't belong ... either shot or pushed down an abandoned mine shaft never to be heard from again. For this fool, whoever he is, to waste as much of out tax dollars as was wasted on the Club Fed report on a private vendetta is obscene. 73, ... Joe, W4TV Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
The recent ham radio visit to Desecheo Island appears to have resurfaced as a messy situation now having US Congressional attention. Resources Committee Ranking Democrat U.S. Rep. Nick J. Rahall is identified with a staff report on the matter dated apparently June 20, 2006, with the title Club Fed If one reads this total report, one conclusion is that, regardless of the final outcomes, ham radio has received a huge black eye over this matter. This is not the kind of image we want and obviously will do our fraturnity no good in the future. As an ARRL member (Life), I suggest that the DXCC approval for this operation be immediately reexamined with the distinct possibility of reversing the previous and dubious DXCC approval (based on a tape recorded verbal statement?) and a notice be made, if found justified, that this operation does not represent the vast majority of world-wide law-abiding ham radio operators. Perhaps Desecheo I. should be permanently removed from the DXCC list to avoid future such problems. If this Congressional report is correct, the ham radio community must take swift action to condemn this kind of activity and encourage no more like it ever in the future. I realize I risk raising the ire of other radio hams by raising this issue that we likely all wish would just go away. But, it is not going away and in fact is now even more at the forefront of governmental attention. I appeal to the ham radio community to act in our defense so that other DXpeditions and all hams are not tar-ed with a nasty brush. 73, Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Charles Harpole wrote: The recent ham radio visit to Desecheo Island appears to have resurfaced as a messy situation now having US Congressional attention. Resources Committee Ranking Democrat U.S. Rep. Nick J. Rahall is identified with a staff report on the matter dated apparently June 20, 2006, with the title Club Fed If one reads this total report, one conclusion is that, regardless of the final outcomes, ham radio has received a huge black eye over this matter. This is not the kind of image we want and obviously will do our fraturnity no good in the future. [snip] If this Congressional report is correct, the ham radio community must take swift action to condemn this kind of activity and encourage no more like it ever in the future. The Congressional report seems to be at variance somewhat with the program presented at the Dayton DX Forum this year. I suspect this Congressional report didn't just happen. I have a speaking susnicion that the person responsible for their being removed from the island in the first place is still out there trying to make all the trouble he can. The ops said at Dayton that even they don't know who was responsible. If they have given ham radio and DXing a black eye, this unknown whiner has done it double duty. 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess
My reading of the Club Fed report is that the operators who visited Desecheo were held harmless; they sought permission from responsible officials, and received it. If working around intractable government bureaucracy were a crime, we'd still be in the stone age. As for the incredibly persistent ham who raised a stink, caused the operation to be terminated, and precipitated the launch of investigations by organizations who have much more important things to be doing, he or she had best hope that their name won't be released in a Freedom of Information Act inquiry. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 23:35 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Desecheo I. mess The recent ham radio visit to Desecheo Island appears to have resurfaced as a messy situation now having US Congressional attention. Resources Committee Ranking Democrat U.S. Rep. Nick J. Rahall is identified with a staff report on the matter dated apparently June 20, 2006, with the title Club Fed If one reads this total report, one conclusion is that, regardless of the final outcomes, ham radio has received a huge black eye over this matter. This is not the kind of image we want and obviously will do our fraturnity no good in the future. As an ARRL member (Life), I suggest that the DXCC approval for this operation be immediately reexamined with the distinct possibility of reversing the previous and dubious DXCC approval (based on a tape recorded verbal statement?) and a notice be made, if found justified, that this operation does not represent the vast majority of world-wide law-abiding ham radio operators. Perhaps Desecheo I. should be permanently removed from the DXCC list to avoid future such problems. If this Congressional report is correct, the ham radio community must take swift action to condemn this kind of activity and encourage no more like it ever in the future. I realize I risk raising the ire of other radio hams by raising this issue that we likely all wish would just go away. But, it is not going away and in fact is now even more at the forefront of governmental attention. I appeal to the ham radio community to act in our defense so that other DXpeditions and all hams are not tar-ed with a nasty brush. 73, Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
