RE: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
Two addendums... First, I've been told by many reliable sources (and one VERY, VERY reliable one!) that I was incorrect, there is NO limit on the number of cards (or more accurately, QSO's) that a field card checker can check. The only limitations at the moment are that card checkers can't check 160 meter or Deleted entity cards, but that's it. I know how I made that mistake... most of the time I've read of card checkers being at Major Events (like Hamvention and Division conventions etc.) there is a card limit. I naturally assumed that was for ALL field activities, but that is not the case. Sorry about that! Second, just as an FYI, I've been assured by the same sources that you do NOT have to resubmit previoiusly checked cards for 5 Band. So if I submit the first four bands separately, as I probably will at this point, when I submit the fifth band, I can also apply for 5BDXCC without resubmitting the cards. Makes sense, since this they already have them on file! But it's nice to know for sure. Enjoy the evening, and if I don't talk with you beforehand, have a safe and happy holiday (for those who celebrate it!) 73, ron w3wn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Notarius W3WN Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:07 AM To: DX Chat Reflector Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice... Well, I've had an interesting collection of responses. I do want to thank everyone who bothered to reply, and I think I've pretty much made my decision. But first... Let's see. I've had a six people tell me just to maximize as much as I can; two suggest that I do them all if the checker is willing and get it all done over with. I would if I could, but I do belive card checkers have a limit to how many cards they can check at a time (and driving to Newington is not possible right now). You also pay a premium if you submit more than (I think) 120 cards at a time. So putting in for Mixed, Phone, CW, 5BDXCC all at once just ain't gonna happen. I've had four suggestions to just use Logbook of the World. That's easy enough to do, and LotW shows me with enough credits for Mixed Phone right now, CW is about 6 confirmations short. But -- again, there's a premium charge to pay, and since I already HAVE the physical cards... not this time. I've had three people question my motives into sending the cards in at all. True, I have the cards, and _I_ know I did it. So maybe it's just a little ego showing through, but I really would like to have the certificates on file (if not on the wall) for my own sake anyway, so why not? Besides, after 35+ years licensed, I think I'm entitled to show off a LITTLE bit! g Four people sympathize with my tendencies to procrastinate. I am not alone! Three misunderstood the question and gave me advice on setting goals towards earning DXCC and how I shouldn't try to do it all at once. Oh kay. One person, tongue in cheek I hope, stated that if the group suggested I choice that I later came to regret, he didn't feel that it was fair that the whole reflector would suffer for the harsh feelings that might engender. H. And finally one person -- only one! -- Mike W5UC gave me a direct suggestion, that I go for 30 meters single band if I could (alas, the post man was not kind and brought me no cards today, so that won't happen), but otherwise submit for both Mixed CW at the same time. The decision, though, was finally made through the magic of dBase. I'm going to pull out enough cards for DXCC Mixed, Phone, and 10 Meters. Why? Simple, really. The database shows 166 confirmed on 10 SSB. Now, I also have 197 confirmed on 15 SSB 195 on 20 SSB, so any of the three would do. But way back when -- so far back I was still married to the first XYL! -- when I realized I had enough cards for DXCC, I also noticed at the time that I had about 90 on 10 meters, so I decided to wait for 10 or 15 more, just to be sure... so 10 would have been my first single band if I hadn't stalled (and at the time, there weren't single band DXCC awards for 20 15, as I recall). Now I don't know how long it will take to process the application; I'm hopeful that by getting it in before the 1st of the year, I might have a shot at having the paperwork approved by the end of February. I'm hoping that by then, my last few cards for 30 meters will have shown up, so if the timing works out, I should be presenting cards for 30 M and CW DXCC (1 set, 2 awards!) at the WASHFest hamfest on the last Sunday of the month. If the cards aren't in? Well, the database right now shows exactly 100 confirmed on 40 CW (the only single band with 3 digits confirmed right now), with a few more (FJ!) worked but not yet confirmed, so that's the backup. Somewhere along the line, I'll also submit the cards for the other HF bands completed. I wonder, though... when I submit the last single band, and have DXCC for all 5 original HF bands... will they make me
Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
On 12/23/2007 6:51 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: First, I've been told by many reliable sources (and one VERY, VERY reliable one!) that I was incorrect, there is NO limit on the number of cards (or more accurately, QSO's) that a field card checker can check. The only limitations at the moment are that card checkers can't check 160 meter or Deleted entity cards, but that's it. The restrictions can be found at: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/faq/#_Toc94949216 Card Checkers cannot check: Cards for 160-Meters Cards for deleted entities Cards more than 10 calendar years old. (eg: In 2007 card checkers cannot check any card with a QSO date prior to January 1, 1997). (See section IV rule 1(a)) -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
From: Moore Bill NC1L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:50 AM To: 425 DX News; Ann Figat; ARRL News; ARRL Web; BARF; Bernie McClenny; Chuck Hutchinson; David Patton; DX Publishing; Editors; G3KMA; Italian DX Reflector; JARL; John Kanode; Katherine Allison; Leeza Kustosik; Moore Bill NC1L; News Desk UK; Perez Frank KB1NQR; SM5DQC; Taratula Sharon; The GoList; URE; W1AW; WIA Australia; Admin Laison; Atlantic; Board Laison; Chairman; Dakota; Delta; Great Lakes; Hudson; Midwest; New England; Northwestern; Pacific; RAC; Roanoke; Rocky Mountain; Southeastern; Southwestern; Staff Laison; West Gulf Subject: DXCC Card checking rule change Subject: Changes in DXCC, WAS and VUCC Card Checking Program rules: Effective immediately, DXCC announces the following changes to the DXCC Card Checking program: The 10-year rule is now removed. Card checkers can now check cards for current entities only, dating back to November 15, 1945. Card checkers still cannot verify 160 meter cards or deleted entities. In addition, DXCC card checkers can also check applications, if they agree to do so, for: The Worked All States Award (WAS) (See www.arrl.org/awards/was); and The VHF/UHF Century Club Award (VUCC) (See www.arrl.org/awards/vucc) Contact Bill Moore, NC1L ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with questions 73 es DX! Bill Moore NC1L DXCC Branch Manager www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DX Chat Reflector Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice... On 12/23/2007 6:51 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: First, I've been told by many reliable sources (and one VERY, VERY reliable one!) that I was incorrect, there is NO limit on the number of cards (or more accurately, QSO's) that a field card checker can check. The only limitations at the moment are that card checkers can't check 160 meter or Deleted entity cards, but that's it. The restrictions can be found at: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/faq/#_Toc94949216 Card Checkers cannot check: Cards for 160-Meters Cards for deleted entities Cards more than 10 calendar years old. (eg: In 2007 card checkers cannot check any card with a QSO date prior to January 1, 1997). (See section IV rule 1(a)) -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
The page has not been updated. The 10 year restriction was removed some time ago. All Post 1945 cards are now field checkable. Deleted entries and 160-meter cards still must be submitted to ARRL HQ. John AE5B The restrictions can be found at: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/faq/#_Toc94949216 Card Checkers cannot check: Cards for 160-Meters Cards for deleted entities Cards more than 10 calendar years old. (eg: In 2007 card checkers cannot check any card with a QSO date prior to January 1, 1997). (See section IV rule 1(a)) -- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
The FAQs are out of date. Field checker can check any age of card for current entities now. Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX ARRL DXCC Card Checker VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-6520 ve6lb (at) telus (dot) net www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DX Chat Reflector Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice... On 12/23/2007 6:51 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: First, I've been told by many reliable sources (and one VERY, VERY reliable one!) that I was incorrect, there is NO limit on the number of cards (or more accurately, QSO's) that a field card checker can check. The only limitations at the moment are that card checkers can't check 160 meter or Deleted entity cards, but that's it. The restrictions can be found at: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/faq/#_Toc94949216 Card Checkers cannot check: Cards for 160-Meters Cards for deleted entities Cards more than 10 calendar years old. (eg: In 2007 card checkers cannot check any card with a QSO date prior to January 1, 1997). (See section IV rule 1(a)) -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
The date restriction was dropped a few years back. -Original Message- From: Jim Reisert AD1C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DX Chat Reflector Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice... On 12/23/2007 6:51 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: First, I've been told by many reliable sources (and one VERY, VERY reliable one!) that I was incorrect, there is NO limit on the number of cards (or more accurately, QSO's) that a field card checker can check. The only limitations at the moment are that card checkers can't check 160 meter or Deleted entity cards, but that's it. The restrictions can be found at: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/faq/#_Toc94949216 Card Checkers cannot check: Cards for 160-Meters Cards for deleted entities Cards more than 10 calendar years old. (eg: In 2007 card checkers cannot check any card with a QSO date prior to January 1, 1997). (See section IV rule 1(a)) -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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Sorry for the confusion, see Bill's response below. Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice... Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:31:53 -0500 From: Moore, Bill, NC1L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim: The 10 year rule has been removed. I am currently re-writing the FAQ to make it more user friendly and easier to navigate through. Since it may take longer than I thought I figure I'd leave it up for now as there is a lot of valuable program information in it. Regards Bill Moore NC1L DXCC Manager ARRL - The National Association for Amateur Radio 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 Telephone: (860) 594 0234 Fax: (860) 594-0346 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc Blog: http://www.arrl.org/blog/DXCC%20Dialog Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
As I've mentioned from time to time, being the master procrastinator that I am, I never did get around to sending in anything towards DXCC. Well, I finally decided enough is enough is enough, and I will be visiting with the local DXCC card checker before the end of the year to finally get off my keister and get it done. Only question is... which set of cards to send? I'd hoped to have my 30 M DXCC completed by now, so that I could send in Mixed, CW, 30 all at the same time with the same cards. Alas, unless the postal carrier is kind to me today, I'm going to fall about 4 cards shy, so that's out. Regardless, I can send in a set of cards for Mixed, either CW or SSB, or any single band 80/40/20/15/10. I might have single mode on one band, but I haven't filtered the database that tightly yet; if I do, that will probably be the candidate to get a 3 for 1 submission. But, assuming that I don't... would you send in for a single mode (which one?) or a single band (which one?)? Thoughts? 73, ron w3wn Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
You need to think about it and decide why to send them in at all. In almost 40 years, I've only sent in for Mixed and RTTY. All the band-mode stuff I just track for my own satisfaction in DX4WIN. I don't need any more wallpaper. I don't even bother sending for QSLs for the band-mode stuff - only if it's a brand new one (which there aren't any unless you count FJ) or a new RTTY country (3 or so.) Barry W2UP Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: As I've mentioned from time to time, being the master procrastinator that I am, I never did get around to sending in anything towards DXCC. Well, I finally decided enough is enough is enough, and I will be visiting with the local DXCC card checker before the end of the year to finally get off my keister and get it done. Only question is... which set of cards to send? I'd hoped to have my 30 M DXCC completed by now, so that I could send in Mixed, CW, 30 all at the same time with the same cards. Alas, unless the postal carrier is kind to me today, I'm going to fall about 4 cards shy, so that's out. Regardless, I can send in a set of cards for Mixed, either CW or SSB, or any single band 80/40/20/15/10. I might have single mode on one band, but I haven't filtered the database that tightly yet; if I do, that will probably be the candidate to get a 3 for 1 submission. But, assuming that I don't... would you send in for a single mode (which one?) or a single band (which one?)? Thoughts? 73, ron w3wn Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
At 10:29 AM 12/22/2007, w3wn wrote: Thoughts? Ron, unfortunately, out thought pattern is near the same. If I were to send in a single band, I would want it to be 30 meters. Beyond 30 meters, 160 is my other favorite, and that apparently isn't an option. CW would definitely be a favorite option for me. I'm somewhere up around 190 confirmed on CW. I should be higher, but I continue to wait on LOTW confirmations. I guess I will have to get busy on CW that are not LOTW. SSB would be my last choice if I ever submitted it; not likely as my contact rate for SSB is somewhere in the 1 or 2 per year rate(sometimes not that high). Go for CW. 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice...
Well, I've had an interesting collection of responses. I do want to thank everyone who bothered to reply, and I think I've pretty much made my decision. But first... Let's see. I've had a six people tell me just to maximize as much as I can; two suggest that I do them all if the checker is willing and get it all done over with. I would if I could, but I do belive card checkers have a limit to how many cards they can check at a time (and driving to Newington is not possible right now). You also pay a premium if you submit more than (I think) 120 cards at a time. So putting in for Mixed, Phone, CW, 5BDXCC all at once just ain't gonna happen. I've had four suggestions to just use Logbook of the World. That's easy enough to do, and LotW shows me with enough credits for Mixed Phone right now, CW is about 6 confirmations short. But -- again, there's a premium charge to pay, and since I already HAVE the physical cards... not this time. I've had three people question my motives into sending the cards in at all. True, I have the cards, and _I_ know I did it. So maybe it's just a little ego showing through, but I really would like to have the certificates on file (if not on the wall) for my own sake anyway, so why not? Besides, after 35+ years licensed, I think I'm entitled to show off a LITTLE bit! g Four people sympathize with my tendencies to procrastinate. I am not alone! Three misunderstood the question and gave me advice on setting goals towards earning DXCC and how I shouldn't try to do it all at once. Oh kay. One person, tongue in cheek I hope, stated that if the group suggested I choice that I later came to regret, he didn't feel that it was fair that the whole reflector would suffer for the harsh feelings that might engender. H. And finally one person -- only one! -- Mike W5UC gave me a direct suggestion, that I go for 30 meters single band if I could (alas, the post man was not kind and brought me no cards today, so that won't happen), but otherwise submit for both Mixed CW at the same time. The decision, though, was finally made through the magic of dBase. I'm going to pull out enough cards for DXCC Mixed, Phone, and 10 Meters. Why? Simple, really. The database shows 166 confirmed on 10 SSB. Now, I also have 197 confirmed on 15 SSB 195 on 20 SSB, so any of the three would do. But way back when -- so far back I was still married to the first XYL! -- when I realized I had enough cards for DXCC, I also noticed at the time that I had about 90 on 10 meters, so I decided to wait for 10 or 15 more, just to be sure... so 10 would have been my first single band if I hadn't stalled (and at the time, there weren't single band DXCC awards for 20 15, as I recall). Now I don't know how long it will take to process the application; I'm hopeful that by getting it in before the 1st of the year, I might have a shot at having the paperwork approved by the end of February. I'm hoping that by then, my last few cards for 30 meters will have shown up, so if the timing works out, I should be presenting cards for 30 M and CW DXCC (1 set, 2 awards!) at the WASHFest hamfest on the last Sunday of the month. If the cards aren't in? Well, the database right now shows exactly 100 confirmed on 40 CW (the only single band with 3 digits confirmed right now), with a few more (FJ!) worked but not yet confirmed, so that's the backup. Somewhere along the line, I'll also submit the cards for the other HF bands completed. I wonder, though... when I submit the last single band, and have DXCC for all 5 original HF bands... will they make me resubmit the 500 cards for 5BDXCC, or just accept the paperwork and the check? I guess I'll find out soon enough! Thanks again to all who replied. 73, ron w3wn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Notarius W3WN Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:29 AM To: DX Chat Reflector Subject: [DX-CHAT] Making a List Checking It Twice... As I've mentioned from time to time, being the master procrastinator that I am, I never did get around to sending in anything towards DXCC. Well, I finally decided enough is enough is enough, and I will be visiting with the local DXCC card checker before the end of the year to finally get off my keister and get it done. Only question is... which set of cards to send? I'd hoped to have my 30 M DXCC completed by now, so that I could send in Mixed, CW, 30 all at the same time with the same cards. Alas, unless the postal carrier is kind to me today, I'm going to fall about 4 cards shy, so that's out. Regardless, I can send in a set of cards for Mixed, either CW or SSB, or any single band 80/40/20/15/10. I might have single mode on one band, but I haven't filtered the database that tightly yet; if I do, that will probably be the candidate to get a 3 for 1 submission. But, assuming that I don't... would you send in for a single mode (which one?) or a single band (which one
