RE: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-07 Thread DAVE WHITE
Bloody hell.  Someone asked a simple question about the log check, and all the 
old timers are getting on their soap boxes about how much better it was when 
.   
   
  You should some over to the UK and listen to the G3 Tomato Growers telling 
each other on 80m how much better it was when you could get a trolley bus into 
town, have a meal, go see Arthur Askey and still get change from a 
farthing...
   
  :-)
   
  Dave G0OIL

Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, Dave, the DXCC card checker I referred to was a VE6 who 
posted on the DX-NEWS reflector Friday morning. I did not know you 
had posted any inquiries regarding N8S, my message was in reference 
to someone else.

Please get your facts straight next time.

73 - Jim AD1C


At 10:07 PM 4/6/2007, Dave Thomas wrote:

Jim,

Beg your pardon but I am not and have never been a DX card checker. Check
your data. I received this call ~ Feb 16, 2007. I don't know what your
problem is but you are one of the most uncultured, arrogant individuals I
have spoken with in a long time. Are you the master of this mail list or do
you enjoy making an ass of yourself in a free form manner ? There were many
others on the list that emailed me directly and commented negatively on your
behavior. And others wanted the same information as I initially asked about.
This is my only response I will to the whole thing. My first and last use of
this reflector.


Regards to all and -73s-

Dave Thomas
K4CA ex W4DIM



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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote:

 Is it even remotely possible that the post about
 on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
 simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
 answer to?

No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature.

73 - Jim AD1C


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RE: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-07 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
All right.  Let's put a stop to this right now.

Folks, forgive me if I seem a little cranky, I just got back from a 12 hour
stay at the hospital (the wife is fine, although her appendix was granted a
trial separation around 0700 Z).  Still, I see that a few tempers are
starting to flare up, and before anyone crosses the line on what is and is
not allowed on this reflector, I'm going to ask everyone to cool off and
back off.

If you wish to continue a discussion about the merits of the N8S on-line
log, and if and how often you feel it should be updated, that's fine.  But
some of the name calling that's begun, and related comments, that must stop.
If you wish to bicker, please do it privately or elsewhere.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

73, ron w3wn
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-07 Thread lmecseri -KE1F

Joe,

Well said!

Old, experienced DX-er who don't get enjoyment out of making insurance 
contacts. Using on-line log eliminates duplicate or insurance contacts.


73s

LouKE1F  ex:KA1DS, WB1QOJ, WA9UHW, WB2QOJ and HA5-2557 SWL.

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Jim, 

Three or four days into the operation asking if anyone knows 
what is up with the on-line logs - since the function is there -
is not out of line.  Even for an experienced DXer it is nice to 
have the confirmation so those who have worked them can get out 
of the pile-up and let some of the weaker signals, antenna 
challenged and less experienced operators have a chance! 



73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

  

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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs


At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote:



Is it even remotely possible that the post about
on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
answer to?
  

No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature.

73 - Jim AD1C






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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-07 Thread Shelby Summerville
lmecseri -KE1F wrote: Old, experienced DX-er who don't get enjoyment out of 
making insurance contacts. Using on-line log eliminates duplicate or 
insurance contacts.


agree...although I have a second contact, 17 meters, RTTY. The second was 
made because, when the first was made, they were operating simplex, and 
another station covered his confirmation, to me.


C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW 



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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-07 Thread af2c
Although the logs are up on the N8S site, they appear to be 
incomplete.  Some contacts do not seem to be posted at this time.


Nothing to get excited about...If in doubt, work them again.  Some of the 
operators will tell you that You're in the log.


73,
Jay/AF2C



At 09:10 AM 4/7/2007 -0700, you wrote:


Hi guys,

Looks like the online logs are working now; don't know
when they came up.


Ken N2ZN



--- Shelby Summerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 lmecseri -KE1F wrote: Old, experienced DX-er who
 don't get enjoyment out of
 making insurance contacts. Using on-line log
 eliminates duplicate or
 insurance contacts.

 agree...although I have a second contact, 17 meters,
 RTTY. The second was
 made because, when the first was made, they were
 operating simplex, and
 another station covered his confirmation, to me.

 C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-07 Thread David Kozinn, K2DBK

If you look at the front page of http://logsearch.de , which is where the
actual logs are hosted, you'll see an update giving the date and time of the
last QSO received. Apparently, they are sending logs periodically via
satellite phone, based on a previous note up there.

On 4/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Although the logs are up on the N8S site, they appear to be
incomplete.  Some contacts do not seem to be posted at this time.

Nothing to get excited about...If in doubt, work them again.  Some of the
operators will tell you that You're in the log.

73,
Jay/AF2C



At 09:10 AM 4/7/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Hi guys,

Looks like the online logs are working now; don't know
when they came up.


Ken N2ZN



--- Shelby Summerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  lmecseri -KE1F wrote: Old, experienced DX-er who
  don't get enjoyment out of
  making insurance contacts. Using on-line log
  eliminates duplicate or
  insurance contacts.
 
  agree...although I have a second contact, 17 meters,
  RTTY. The second was
  made because, when the first was made, they were
  operating simplex, and
  another station covered his confirmation, to me.
 
  C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
 
 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-07 Thread af2c

GE David -

Your information is helpful.  However, there are missing QSOs made by some 
friends both here and across the pond.


Whether the Q's were with pirates (doubtful) or not, remains to be 
seen.  Time will tell.


Again...If in doubt, work them again.

73,
Jay/AF2C



At 07:32 PM 4/7/2007 -0400, you wrote:

If you look at the front page of http://logsearch.dehttp://logsearch.de 
, which is where the actual logs are hosted, you'll see an update giving 
the date and time of the last QSO received. Apparently, they are sending 
logs periodically via satellite phone, based on a previous note up there.


On 4/7/07, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Although the logs are up on the N8S site, they appear to be
incomplete.  Some contacts do not seem to be posted at this time.

Nothing to get excited about...If in doubt, work them again.  Some of the
operators will tell you that You're in the log.

73,
Jay/AF2C



At 09:10 AM 4/7/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Hi guys,

Looks like the online logs are working now; don't know
when they came up.


Ken N2ZN



--- Shelby Summerville mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  lmecseri -KE1F wrote: Old, experienced DX-er who
  don't get enjoyment out of
  making insurance contacts. Using on-line log
  eliminates duplicate or
  insurance contacts.
 
  agree...although I have a second contact, 17 meters,
  RTTY. The second was
  made because, when the first was made, they were
  operating simplex, and
  another station covered his confirmation, to me.
 
  C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW




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[DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
 Any word about N8S and their online logs?

Could someone explain what this question accomplishes?

- they have a web site, and a NEWS page
- they have a placeholder for the on-line log

So there are no QSOs uploaded yet - so what?  Either they can't send the data,
or the person who received it hasn't uploaded anything yet.

I don't see how the 1000+ subscribers on this reflector can make the on-line
logs suddenly appear.

Props to the MicroLite Penguins who don't have on-line logs.  Just work the DX,
and send a QSL when it's all over.

73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread N4BAA - Jose Castillo

Amen Brother Jim!!!
AMEN!!
Oh for the good ole days.

Work the DX...
Send card.
GET card backor Not in log!
Use to be wonderful!! smiling

Jose - N4BAA

Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

Any word about N8S and their online logs?


Could someone explain what this question accomplishes?

- they have a web site, and a NEWS page
- they have a placeholder for the on-line log

So there are no QSOs uploaded yet - so what?  Either they can't send the data,
or the person who received it hasn't uploaded anything yet.

I don't see how the 1000+ subscribers on this reflector can make the on-line
logs suddenly appear.

Props to the MicroLite Penguins who don't have on-line logs.  Just work the DX,
and send a QSL when it's all over.

73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Tom Wylie
It always amazes me how the armchair dxer who has bought every gadget on 
the planet can never quite understand why every desert island in the 
world doesn't have broadband.


Come on guys - get a life.Some of you should get off your butt and 
trying DXing for yourself and you will find that on line logs are not 
the most important thing to worry about in mid expedition.




Tom

GM4FDM - T33TW - VP8SDX - TY4TW - OY7TW  et all




Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

Any word about N8S and their online logs?



Could someone explain what this question accomplishes?

- they have a web site, and a NEWS page
- they have a placeholder for the on-line log

So there are no QSOs uploaded yet - so what?  Either they can't send the data,
or the person who received it hasn't uploaded anything yet.

I don't see how the 1000+ subscribers on this reflector can make the on-line
logs suddenly appear.

Props to the MicroLite Penguins who don't have on-line logs.  Just work the DX,
and send a QSL when it's all over.

73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Tom Wylie wrote:

It always amazes me how the armchair dxer who has bought every  
gadget on the planet can never quite understand why every desert  
island in the world doesn't have broadband.


Come on guys - get a life.Some of you should get off your butt  
and trying DXing for yourself and you will find that on line logs  
are not the most important thing to worry about in mid expedition.


Right on!  I recall an expedition to the Spratlys many years ago  
where the group was attacked by pirates and some deaths occurred.   
Many groups have encountered extreme weather conditions which those  
of us sitting at home in our armchairs couldn't possibly imagine.


DXing existed and flourished long before there were packet and the  
internet.


73, Bob N7XY



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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread John - WB8RFB
Is it even remotely possible that the post about
on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
answer to?

I think it's time for all of us to dig out our old
ARRL Handbooks and reread the Amateur's Code printed
therein.  

73,

WB8RFB




 

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C

At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote:


Is it even remotely possible that the post about
on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
answer to?


No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature.

73 - Jim AD1C


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FW: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Dave Thomas


-Original Message-
From: Dave Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 9:07 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

Jim,

Beg your pardon but I am not and have never been a DX card checker.  Check
your data. I received this call ~ Feb 16, 2007.  I don't know what your
problem is but you are one of the most uncultured, arrogant individuals I
have spoken with in a long time. Are you the master of this mail list or do
you enjoy making an ass of yourself in a free form manner ?  There were many
others on the list that emailed me directly and commented negatively on your
behavior. And others wanted the same information as I initially asked about.
This is my only response I will to the whole thing. My first and last use of
this reflector.


Regards to all and -73s-

Dave Thomas
K4CA  ex W4DIM



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX, Chat
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote:

Is it even remotely possible that the post about
on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
answer to?

No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature.

73 - Jim AD1C


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RE: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Jim, 

Three or four days into the operation asking if anyone knows 
what is up with the on-line logs - since the function is there -
is not out of line.  Even for an experienced DXer it is nice to 
have the confirmation so those who have worked them can get out 
of the pile-up and let some of the weaker signals, antenna 
challenged and less experienced operators have a chance! 


73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

 -Original Message-
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 Jim Reisert AD1C
 Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX, Chat
 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs
 
 
 At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote:
 
 Is it even remotely possible that the post about
 on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
 simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
 answer to?
 
 No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature.
 
 73 - Jim AD1C
 



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RE: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
Actually, Dave, the DXCC card checker I referred to was a VE6 who 
posted on the DX-NEWS reflector Friday morning.  I did not know you 
had posted any inquiries regarding N8S, my message was in reference 
to someone else.


Please get your facts straight next time.

73 - Jim AD1C


At 10:07 PM 4/6/2007, Dave Thomas wrote:


Jim,

Beg your pardon but I am not and have never been a DX card checker.  Check
your data. I received this call ~ Feb 16, 2007.  I don't know what your
problem is but you are one of the most uncultured, arrogant individuals I
have spoken with in a long time. Are you the master of this mail list or do
you enjoy making an ass of yourself in a free form manner ?  There were many
others on the list that emailed me directly and commented negatively on your
behavior. And others wanted the same information as I initially asked about.
This is my only response I will to the whole thing. My first and last use of
this reflector.


Regards to all and -73s-

Dave Thomas
K4CA  ex W4DIM



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Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX, Chat
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote:

Is it even remotely possible that the post about
on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
answer to?

No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature.

73 - Jim AD1C



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RE: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

2007-04-06 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)

Don'tcha just hate it when the children can't play together and be nice?

At 09:34 PM 4/6/2007, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
Actually, Dave, the DXCC card checker I referred to was a VE6 who 
posted on the DX-NEWS reflector Friday morning.  I did not know you 
had posted any inquiries regarding N8S, my message was in reference 
to someone else.


Please get your facts straight next time.

73 - Jim AD1C


At 10:07 PM 4/6/2007, Dave Thomas wrote:


Jim,

Beg your pardon but I am not and have never been a DX card checker.  Check
your data. I received this call ~ Feb 16, 2007.  I don't know what your
problem is but you are one of the most uncultured, arrogant individuals I
have spoken with in a long time. Are you the master of this mail list or do
you enjoy making an ass of yourself in a free form manner ?  There were many
others on the list that emailed me directly and commented negatively on your
behavior. And others wanted the same information as I initially asked about.
This is my only response I will to the whole thing. My first and last use of
this reflector.


Regards to all and -73s-

Dave Thomas
K4CA  ex W4DIM



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX, Chat
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: N8S Online Logs

At 05:03 PM 4/6/2007, John - WB8RFB wrote:

Is it even remotely possible that the post about
on-line logs came from someone new to DX'ing who was
simply asking a question that he/she didn't know the
answer to?

No, it came from a DXCC card checker, according to his signature.

73 - Jim AD1C



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