Charlie,
Good work.
Going by the numbers (1-0) don't take into consideration propagation.
Numbers are no longer connected to geographical location. You know W1,2
and 3 have different propagations as W4s.
Where do I belong? My call is W1 but located in W4 land. Yes I can try
KE1F/4 when 4s
The US call districts are still mostly populated by the right numbers,
though this is a good point, especially when taken worldwide.
Calling one 1 and then one 2 and one 3 and so forth has the advantage
of NOT taking into account propagation (you're not trying to get only
1's, 2's, 3's before
Peter,
I'm never more frustrated than when I'm losing propagation and the DX
takes 15 4's then 15 5's then 15 6's then 15 7's then ***permanent
fade*** ... I would have had 4 other shots to work them if they were
only taking 1 per district. Guess it's a matter of personal
preference.
Dan
Peter, you make a good point.
Regarding 3Y0X, I think it probably goes to show that the raw skill of
the operators at pileup handling is much more important than any
subtle variations in technique. I certainly had a lot easier time
getting through to them (3 bands) than to KH8SI (zero bands).
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make
better DXers?
The US call districts are still mostly populated by the right
numbers,though this is a good point, especially when taken
worldwide.Calling one 1 and then one 2 and one 3 and so forth has the
advantageof NOT taking into account
Of
Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:57 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?
A few made a good point, it is up to the DX station to control the
pileup. I didn't want to go down that path. But a couple of points
to keep in mind:
- We (the callers
Jim!
from all over the country
Not exactly... from all over the world would be more correct.
This problem started (or should I say got worse) when the
DX-clusters started to show up on Internet.
73/DX de Osten SM5DQC
- Original Message -
From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL
-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?
Jim!
from all over the country
Not exactly... from all over the world would be more correct.
This problem started (or should I say got worse) when the DX-clusters
started to show up
Jim:
I and the other ops in C9 earlier this month and part of June had the
same problem, its nothing particular to KH8SI. If I was calling for say
USA or by the numbers only, ops in one country especially would keep
coming back, no matter what I said. If I asked the offending station if
I will tell you why Jim.. This morning on 30 meters the op would get a
partial call, say WK7 and would sent that back and then come back to a
completely different call, like JA1ABC or something like that. People now
know that so they just keep calling on top of the other station. It appears
The DX just has to be strict about who gets to get through. The
pileup should be held up until WK7 gets to get through, or the DX says
the whiskey kilo seven please and is met with silence. Yeah, QSO
rate may plummet, but that's just what has to happen to keep the
pileup in line.
I'm in favor
: Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?
Jim!
from all over the country
Not exactly... from all over the world would be more correct.
This problem started (or should I say got worse) when the DX-clusters
started to show up on Internet.
73/DX de Osten SM5DQC
- Original Message
I think long-term blacklisting is too harsh. I don't think that the
people who are calling out of turn are necessarily doing it because
they're bad people. I think it's because they know it increases,
rather than decreases their chance of getting through.
I'm OK with short-term blacklisting
,
Charlie, W0YG..
- Original Message -
From: Dan Zimmerman N3OX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?
The DX just has to be strict about who gets to get through. The
pileup should be held up until WK7
Why do they do it?
Two reasons:
(1) Some don't know better. They were never shown the ropes, or they've
learned by observing, and unfortunately, they've observed bad examples.
(2) It works. I've been in too many pileups, over the years, where the DX has
said the Alpha Whiskey or the W N 3
If the DX announces he's listening in a range of frequencies, I think in
many instances those who can't find the frequency the DX is listening on
right now simply announce their callsign over and over, listening briefly
in between to see if the DX has heard it. After all, the DX is supposedly
A few made a good point, it is up to the DX station to control the
pileup. I didn't want to go down that path. But a couple of points
to keep in mind:
- We (the callers) are the many, they (the DXpedition operators) are
the few. They are the ones who have invested the time and money in
At 12:26 PM 7/30/2006 -0400, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote:
I'm OK with short-term blacklisting though. A quick KQ3XX come back
tomorrow, no contact today is likely fairly effective.
As a KQ3 type, I'm going to assume (with good humor) that wasn't directed
toward me. HI!!
But it's not all (or
At 05:56 PM 07/30/2006, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
Just because WX9QRO calls overtop of everyone, and in frustration
and/or desperation, the DX operator works him to get him out of the
way does NOT make it right, and does NOT mean that we have to
follow that example.
To that end it would be
Joe,
Didn't mean to single out your prefix! I did a qrz.com search on
KQ3XX just in case ;-)
My favorite (and this happened a bit on 6m today when it was open to
the Carribean) is this, and I'll be the lid this time... that's safe.
DX: 6 Yankee One Victor QRZed?
DX: Kilo Quebec Three
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