Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Mike Cizek W0VTT
Hello Carol,

In the newest country file, Jim put the start date on 21 Jan 2018.  If you
worked previous Z6 operations, they will not show as counting for credit.
If you work one of the current stations, it will show for credit.  When the
official ruling comes out from Newington, if the start date is different, he
will release a new country file with the correct start date.  If the new
start date is before the date of your QSOs, they will show as counting for
credit.

-- 
73,
Mike Cizek WØVTT

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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 13:19
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] Z6

Hello,

I just ran the help file in DX4WIN 9.XX Kosovo is now listed and it 
shows 340 possible countries. My Z6 qsos show up as Kosovo, but the 
countries worked box remains blank and my totals did not update to show 
the new entity


Carol
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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Bud Semon
Carol,

I'm pretty sure Jim made the effective date Jan. 21, 2018 and the ARRL has
verified that -
http://www.arrl.org/news/amendment-to-arrl-dxcc-rules-will-expand-dxcc-list
- so only QSOs after that date will show as valid.

My QSO with Z60A on Jan. 21 shows up properly.

73, Bud  N7CW

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Carol Richards  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just ran the help file in DX4WIN 9.XX Kosovo is now listed and it shows
> 340 possible countries. My Z6 qsos show up as Kosovo, but the countries
> worked box remains blank and my totals did not update to show the new
> entity
>
>
> Carol
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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread ON4AOI
Version 9.xx has been updated with KOSOVO also
HELP-UPDATES

Guy ON4AOI

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 3:57 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6


Since the ARRL Board of Directors is reported to have instructed the interim 
CEO that inclusion of Kosovo was to be retroactive, the rules would have to 
indicate the start date of a Political Entity would be the qualifying event not 
the date of the rules change.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 1/23/2018 9:49 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:
> By the time Kosovo declared independance, or was added to the US list 
> of independant states, it did not meet the criteria. It only meets the 
> criteria that was just added, so it is a discovery entity...
> 
> Le 23/01/2018 à 15:39, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Kosovo would be a *Political Entity* not a Geographic entity.  The 
>> precedents would be Palestine and/or the Republic of South Sudan.
>> "Discovery Date" is not applicable to Political entities.  The 
>> appropriate date is the "Qualifying Event" - the date on which the 
>> political entity meets the qualification (e.g., Membership in the UN 
>> or addition to one of the alternate "lists").
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 1/23/2018 9:23 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:
>>> DXCC Criteria quote
>>>
>>> *Discovery Entity:*An Entity "Discovered" after the listing is 
>>> complete. This applies only to Geographic Entities, and may occur 
>>> after a future rule change, or after an Event has changed its status.
>>>
>>> *Discovery Date:*Date of the rule change or Event which prompts 
>>> addition of the Entity. This is the Start Date for a Discovery Entity.
>>> UNQUOTE
>>>
>>> Kosovo would be a discovery entity, therefore starting date should 
>>> be the "discovery date", in this case the rule change.
>>> If they count it retroactively, that means they do not understand 
>>> their own criteria (as they id for KH4 and KH7K recently... IMHO
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Paul F6EXV
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 23/01/2018 à 15:16, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> > So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only 
>>>> > not b4
>>>>
>>>> My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*". The 
>>>> interim CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining 
>>>> the proper "effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 
>>>> (Declaration of
>>>> Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the 
>>>> Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
>>>> <https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).
>>>>
>>>> My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add 
>>>> "Independent States of the World" as an alternate to to UN 
>>>> Membership in (a) under Political Entities - as "Dependencies and 
>>>> Areas of Special Sovereignty" is an alternative to the list of 
>>>> "Non-Self-Governing Territories" in (c).
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>>... Joe, W4TV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were Bill many 
>>>>> tnx for the help and support on this one So I presume its ok this 
>>>>> time but starting from this week only not b4
>>>>>
>>>>> Guy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>>>>> [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
>>>>> To: Roger D Johnson
>>>>> Cc: DX4Win Reflector
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not 
>>>>>> updateable.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log. 

Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Since the ARRL Board of Directors is reported to have instructed the
interim CEO that inclusion of Kosovo was to be retroactive, the rules
would have to indicate the start date of a Political Entity would be
the qualifying event not the date of the rules change.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/23/2018 9:49 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:
By the time Kosovo declared independance, or was added to the US list of 
independant states, it did not meet the criteria. It only meets the 
criteria that was just added, so it is a discovery entity...


Le 23/01/2018 à 15:39, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :


Paul,

Kosovo would be a *Political Entity* not a Geographic entity.  The
precedents would be Palestine and/or the Republic of South Sudan.
"Discovery Date" is not applicable to Political entities.  The
appropriate date is the "Qualifying Event" - the date on which the
political entity meets the qualification (e.g., Membership in the
UN or addition to one of the alternate "lists").

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/23/2018 9:23 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:

DXCC Criteria quote

*Discovery Entity:*An Entity "Discovered" after the listing is 
complete. This applies only to Geographic Entities, and may occur 
after a future rule change, or after an Event has changed its status.


*Discovery Date:*Date of the rule change or Event which prompts 
addition of the Entity. This is the Start Date for a Discovery Entity.

UNQUOTE

Kosovo would be a discovery entity, therefore starting date should be 
the "discovery date", in this case the rule change.
If they count it retroactively, that means they do not understand 
their own criteria (as they id for KH4 and KH7K recently... IMHO


73
Paul F6EXV


Le 23/01/2018 à 15:16, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :


> So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*". The interim
CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining the proper
"effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 (Declaration of
Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the
Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
<https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).

My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add "Independent
States of the World" as an alternate to to UN Membership in (a) under
Political Entities - as "Dependencies and Areas of Special 
Sovereignty" is an alternative to the list of "Non-Self-Governing 
Territories" in

(c).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:

Jim
Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were
Bill many tnx for the help and support on this one
So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

Guy


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On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
To: Roger D Johnson
Cc: DX4Win Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
wrote:

DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not 
updateable.


That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log. 
Prefix field
is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I 
release a new
country file, they will automatically be credited with the correct 
DXCC

prefix.

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Paul F6EXV
By the time Kosovo declared independance, or was added to the US list of 
independant states, it did not meet the criteria. It only meets the 
criteria that was just added, so it is a discovery entity...


Le 23/01/2018 à 15:39, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :


Paul,

Kosovo would be a *Political Entity* not a Geographic entity.  The
precedents would be Palestine and/or the Republic of South Sudan.
"Discovery Date" is not applicable to Political entities.  The
appropriate date is the "Qualifying Event" - the date on which the
political entity meets the qualification (e.g., Membership in the
UN or addition to one of the alternate "lists").

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/23/2018 9:23 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:

DXCC Criteria quote

*Discovery Entity:*An Entity "Discovered" after the listing is 
complete. This applies only to Geographic Entities, and may occur 
after a future rule change, or after an Event has changed its status.


*Discovery Date:*Date of the rule change or Event which prompts 
addition of the Entity. This is the Start Date for a Discovery Entity.

UNQUOTE

Kosovo would be a discovery entity, therefore starting date should be 
the "discovery date", in this case the rule change.
If they count it retroactively, that means they do not understand 
their own criteria (as they id for KH4 and KH7K recently... IMHO


73
Paul F6EXV


Le 23/01/2018 à 15:16, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :


> So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*". The interim
CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining the proper
"effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 (Declaration of
Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the
Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
<https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).

My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add "Independent
States of the World" as an alternate to to UN Membership in (a) under
Political Entities - as "Dependencies and Areas of Special 
Sovereignty" is an alternative to the list of "Non-Self-Governing 
Territories" in

(c).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:

Jim
Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were
Bill many tnx for the help and support on this one
So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

Guy


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]

On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
To: Roger D Johnson
Cc: DX4Win Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
wrote:

DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not 
updateable.


That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log. 
Prefix field
is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I 
release a new
country file, they will automatically be credited with the correct 
DXCC

prefix.

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Paul,

Kosovo would be a *Political Entity* not a Geographic entity.  The
precedents would be Palestine and/or the Republic of South Sudan.
"Discovery Date" is not applicable to Political entities.  The
appropriate date is the "Qualifying Event" - the date on which the
political entity meets the qualification (e.g., Membership in the
UN or addition to one of the alternate "lists").

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/23/2018 9:23 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:

DXCC Criteria quote

*Discovery Entity:*An Entity "Discovered" after the listing is complete. 
This applies only to Geographic Entities, and may occur after a future 
rule change, or after an Event has changed its status.


*Discovery Date:*Date of the rule change or Event which prompts addition 
of the Entity. This is the Start Date for a Discovery Entity.

UNQUOTE

Kosovo would be a discovery entity, therefore starting date should be 
the "discovery date", in this case the rule change.
If they count it retroactively, that means they do not understand their 
own criteria (as they id for KH4 and KH7K recently... IMHO


73
Paul F6EXV


Le 23/01/2018 à 15:16, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :


> So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*".   The interim
CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining the proper
"effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 (Declaration of
Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the
Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
<https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).

My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add "Independent
States of the World" as an alternate to to UN Membership in (a) under
Political Entities - as "Dependencies and Areas of Special 
Sovereignty" is an alternative to the list of "Non-Self-Governing 
Territories" in

(c).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:

Jim
Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were
Bill many tnx for the help and support on this one
So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

Guy


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]

On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
To: Roger D Johnson
Cc: DX4Win Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
wrote:

DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not 
updateable.


That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log. Prefix 
field
is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I 
release a new

country file, they will automatically be credited with the correct DXCC
prefix.

--
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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Paul F6EXV

DXCC Criteria quote

*Discovery Entity:*An Entity "Discovered" after the listing is complete. 
This applies only to Geographic Entities, and may occur after a future 
rule change, or after an Event has changed its status.


*Discovery Date:*Date of the rule change or Event which prompts addition 
of the Entity. This is the Start Date for a Discovery Entity.

UNQUOTE

Kosovo would be a discovery entity, therefore starting date should be 
the "discovery date", in this case the rule change.
If they count it retroactively, that means they do not understand their 
own criteria (as they id for KH4 and KH7K recently... IMHO


73
Paul F6EXV


Le 23/01/2018 à 15:16, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :


> So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*".   The interim
CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining the proper
"effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 (Declaration of
Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the
Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
<https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).

My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add "Independent
States of the World" as an alternate to to UN Membership in (a) under
Political Entities - as "Dependencies and Areas of Special 
Sovereignty" is an alternative to the list of "Non-Self-Governing 
Territories" in

(c).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:

Jim
Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were
Bill many tnx for the help and support on this one
So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

Guy


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]

On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
To: Roger D Johnson
Cc: DX4Win Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
wrote:

DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not 
updateable.


That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log. Prefix 
field
is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I 
release a new

country file, they will automatically be credited with the correct DXCC
prefix.

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*".   The interim
CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining the proper
"effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 (Declaration of
Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the
Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
<https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).

My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add "Independent
States of the World" as an alternate to to UN Membership in (a) under
Political Entities - as "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty" 
is an alternative to the list of "Non-Self-Governing Territories" in

(c).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:

Jim
Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were
Bill many tnx for the help and support on this one
So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

Guy


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On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
To: Roger D Johnson
Cc: DX4Win Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
wrote:


DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not updateable.


That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log.  Prefix field
is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I release a new
country file, they will automatically be credited with the correct DXCC
prefix.

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread ON4AOI
Jim
Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were
Bill many tnx for the help and support on this one
So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4

Guy


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On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
To: Roger D Johnson
Cc: DX4Win Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson 
wrote:

> DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not updateable.

That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log.  Prefix field
is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I release a new
country file, they will automatically be credited with the correct DXCC
prefix.

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson  wrote:

> DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not updateable.

That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log.  Prefix
field is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I
release a new country file, they will automatically be credited with
the correct DXCC prefix.

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6

2018-01-23 Thread ON4AOI
Paul will be working on it
 
In the meantime log it like YU or any other prefix and correct it after the
upgrade.

Guy ON4AOI-OT7K 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:04 PM
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Subject: [Dx4win] Z6

DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not updateable.

73, Roger

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC - WFWL

2012-09-25 Thread ALAN ZACK
Like P5RS7, confirmed on 2 bands. My first P5 QSO/QSL. Work first, cry later
when it turned out to be a Pirate.
Luckily P5/4L4FN was later confirmed.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:38 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC - WFWL

The usual Rule of Thumb is: Work First, Worry Later (WFWL)
 
Over the many years I've been DX'ing, Countries/Entities have come and gone
and sometimes they count and sometimes they don't. So, I say to just work
whatever you can and some day it might count, or not.
The fun comes from working something. One thing for sure is that if you
don't work it, you'll never get credit for it.
 
73/DX,   Bob K8BL

--- On Tue, 9/25/12, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:


From: Joe Subich, W4TV 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 10:40 AM

On 9/25/2012 10:27 AM, PY2YP wrote:
> So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?

No, Z60K counts as *nothing* for DXCC.  From the announcement:

>> will not count for any entity for DXCC awards purposes

Z6 counts as Kosovo for CQ DX and CQ Marathon.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/25/2012 10:27 AM, PY2YP wrote:
> So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?
>
> 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
>
> On 25/09/2012 10:52, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> --- Forwarded message follows ---
>>
>> Date sent:      Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:47:01 -0400
>> From:   "Moore, Bill,  NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)" 
>> Subject:        [dx-check:1427]  Z6 Operations and DXCC
>>
>>       24 September, 2012
>>
>>       Congratulations to the team which helped to reintroduce
>>       Amateur Radio to Kosovo, and welcome back to the
>>       airwaves to the returning Hams.
>>
>>       As of this time Z6ØK, and/or any other Z6 station, will not
>>       count for any entity for DXCC awards purposes as they do
>>       not qualify under the DXCC rules. Any future change in
>>       Kosovo's DXCC status will be announced by ARRL.
>>
>>       73 es DX!
>>       Bill Moore NC1L
>>       Awards Branch Manager
>>       ARRL - The national association for Amateur RadioTM
>>       225 Main Street
>>       Newington, CT 06111
>>       Telephone: (860) 594 0234
>>       Fax: (860) 594-0346
>>       email: bmo...@arrl.org
>>       DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/dxcc
>>       Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog
>>       Twitter: arrl_dxcc

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Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC - WFWL

2012-09-25 Thread R.T.Liddy
The usual Rule of Thumb is: Work First, Worry Later (WFWL)
 
Over the many years I've been DX'ing, Countries/Entities have come
and gone and sometimes they count and sometimes they don't. So,
I say to just work whatever you can and some day it might count, or not.
The fun comes from working something. One thing for sure is that if you
don't work it, you'll never get credit for it.
 
73/DX,   Bob K8BL

--- On Tue, 9/25/12, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:


From: Joe Subich, W4TV 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 10:40 AM



On 9/25/2012 10:27 AM, PY2YP wrote:
> So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?

No, Z60K counts as *nothing* for DXCC.  From the announcement:

>> will not count for any entity for DXCC awards purposes

Z6 counts as Kosovo for CQ DX and CQ Marathon.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/25/2012 10:27 AM, PY2YP wrote:
> So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?
>
> 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
>
> On 25/09/2012 10:52, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> --- Forwarded message follows ---
>>
>> Date sent:      Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:47:01 -0400
>> From:   "Moore, Bill,  NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)" 
>> Subject:        [dx-check:1427]  Z6 Operations and DXCC
>>
>>       24 September, 2012
>>
>>       Congratulations to the team which helped to reintroduce
>>       Amateur Radio to Kosovo, and welcome back to the
>>       airwaves to the returning Hams.
>>
>>       As of this time Z6ØK, and/or any other Z6 station, will not
>>       count for any entity for DXCC awards purposes as they do
>>       not qualify under the DXCC rules. Any future change in
>>       Kosovo's DXCC status will be announced by ARRL.
>>
>>       73 es DX!
>>       Bill Moore NC1L
>>       Awards Branch Manager
>>       ARRL - The national association for Amateur RadioTM
>>       225 Main Street
>>       Newington, CT 06111
>>       Telephone: (860) 594 0234
>>       Fax: (860) 594-0346
>>       email: bmo...@arrl.org
>>       DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/dxcc
>>       Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog
>>       Twitter: arrl_dxcc
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Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC

2012-09-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

On 9/25/2012 10:27 AM, PY2YP wrote:
 > So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?

No, Z60K counts as *nothing* for DXCC.  From the announcement:

 >> will not count for any entity for DXCC awards purposes

Z6 counts as Kosovo for CQ DX and CQ Marathon.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 9/25/2012 10:27 AM, PY2YP wrote:
> So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?
>
> 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
>
> On 25/09/2012 10:52, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> --- Forwarded message follows ---
>>
>> Date sent:  Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:47:01 -0400
>> From:   "Moore, Bill,  NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)" 
>> Subject:[dx-check:1427]  Z6 Operations and DXCC
>>
>>   24 September, 2012
>>
>>   Congratulations to the team which helped to reintroduce
>>   Amateur Radio to Kosovo, and welcome back to the
>>   airwaves to the returning Hams.
>>
>>   As of this time Z6ØK, and/or any other Z6 station, will not
>>   count for any entity for DXCC awards purposes as they do
>>   not qualify under the DXCC rules. Any future change in
>>   Kosovo's DXCC status will be announced by ARRL.
>>
>>   73 es DX!
>>   Bill Moore NC1L
>>   Awards Branch Manager
>>   ARRL - The national association for Amateur RadioTM
>>   225 Main Street
>>   Newington, CT 06111
>>   Telephone: (860) 594 0234
>>   Fax: (860) 594-0346
>>   email: bmo...@arrl.org
>>   DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/dxcc
>>   Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog
>>   Twitter: arrl_dxcc
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Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC

2012-09-25 Thread Rick Murphy
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM, PY2YP  wrote:

> So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?
>

No. Read what Bill said:
"As of this time Z6ØK, and/or any other Z6 station, will not count for any
entity for DXCC awards purposes as they do not qualify under the DXCC
rules."

They can't "count as YU" as the YU authorities didn't issue their
callsigns.
Not to mention the little issue of using a callsign block that hasn't been
assigned to them.
I worked 'em. Shame it's not likely to count for anything.
73,
-Rick
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Re: [Dx4win] Z6 Operations and DXCC

2012-09-25 Thread PY2YP
So the Z60K does count as YU. Am I right?

73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar

On 25/09/2012 10:52, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
> --- Forwarded message follows ---
>
> Date sent:  Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:47:01 -0400
> From:   "Moore, Bill,  NC1L (ARRL Awards Branch)" 
> Subject:[dx-check:1427]  Z6 Operations and DXCC
>
>  24 September, 2012
>
>  Congratulations to the team which helped to reintroduce
>  Amateur Radio to Kosovo, and welcome back to the
>  airwaves to the returning Hams.
>
>  As of this time Z6ØK, and/or any other Z6 station, will not
>  count for any entity for DXCC awards purposes as they do
>  not qualify under the DXCC rules. Any future change in
>  Kosovo's DXCC status will be announced by ARRL.
>
>  73 es DX!
>  Bill Moore NC1L
>  Awards Branch Manager
>  ARRL - The national association for Amateur RadioTM
>  225 Main Street
>  Newington, CT 06111
>  Telephone: (860) 594 0234
>  Fax: (860) 594-0346
>  email: bmo...@arrl.org
>  DXCC Web Site: www.arrl.org/dxcc
>  Blog: http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog
>  Twitter: arrl_dxcc
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