[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold web site
With all this talk about websites... I wonder if e-gold, SR, MS or any other would be interested in sponsoring a competition for the best website design? What do you say 100grams? Small price to pay for an nice design. Very small... A 100 AUG prize is mostly a token prize, the main prize would be the recognition for designing the e-gold site. Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold web site -- a joke from ad-land
With all this talk about websites... I wonder if e-gold, SR, MS or any other would be interested in sponsoring a competition for the best website design? What do you say 100grams? Small price to pay for an nice design. Very small... A 100 AUG prize is mostly a token prize, the main prize would be the recognition for designing the e-gold site. here's a famous joke that everyone who's ever worked in advertising knows: "Once up on a time, this designer dies, and he goes up to the pearly gates. St Pete is pretty much stunned .. "dude, you're the FIRST DESIGNER who has ever made it up here! You are the only graphic designer in heaven!" The Designer is delighted and pictures all the perks and women he will get, being the ONLY graphic designer in heaven. The only one! Sure enough St Pete says "Dude, this is such an achievement, to begin with, we are going to give you this magnificent 1969 RESTORED HOT PINK CADILLAC ELDORADO CONVERTIBLE, with CUSTOM PLATES "D E S I G N E R", for you to drive around in!" St Pete tosses him the keys to the magnificent 30 foot long hot pink '69 eldorado convertible with custom "DESIGNER" plates, with a wink. The designer drives off with the ragtop down and he's loving it. He's getting chics like crazy, he always have a nice tan, and out front of all the cool cafes downtown in heaven the valets always leave his car right in front. But then one day, disaster! the designer is stopped at a red light and ... *ANOTHER* 1969 RESTORED HOT PINK CADILLAC ELDORADO CONVERTIBLE, with CUSTOM PLATES "D E S I G N E R", crosses him at the lights! He is absolutely shocked! The designer burns rubber to the pearly gates, and, infuruiated, tells St Pete about the incident. "You said I was the ONLY designer in heaven!" "Oh, don't worry," says St Pete. "That was just God .. everyone likes to think they're a designer." The bottom line and blunt version: if you're not a graphic designer, don't embarass yourself (like I often do) or waste time by thinking you are one. --- "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold web site -- a joke from ad-land
jpm wrote: The bottom line and blunt version: if you're not a graphic designer, don't embarass yourself (like I often do) or waste time by thinking you are one. Hey.. Wouldn't have made the suggestion if I was plannin on embarassing myself :) Khurram _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold web site
Viking, Thanks for taking the time to comment. Ultimately, if e-gold decides to redesign their site, I think they should get a group of 5-10 newbies and videotape them trying to use it. In the meantime, I've created an informal survey--if you want to express your preference for either e-gold.com's current site design or the mockup (http://www.openknowledge.org/egold/), please go to the following site and answer the survey question: http://tools.arsdigita.com/voxpopuli/ViewPoll?poll_id=3061 (Obviously, the survey isn't scientific, and has a number of actual/potential flaws--self selection bias, potential spoofing, possibly improper wording, etc--so take the results with a big grain of salt.) Does your server have the same user load that the e-gold server does? Good point--I don't know the server load of my hosting company, nor e-gold's, but I doubt my hosting company has comparable volume. As I said, my test was _not_ scientific. However, 28 seconds is almost 3 times what usability research suggests is an optimal maximum. The relative comparison may not be fair, but the absolute number is valid I think. Wwireless cellular PDA users access different versions of the internet. There isn't a PDA that I know of that can display a site optimized for desktop computers. The largest resolution I have seen is 320*240, while most desktops have a resolution of 800*600 with some at 640*480 and some at 1024*768 and higher. You may be correct--maybe PDA users wouldn't try to access e-gold's current site. Perhaps it would be useful for e-gold to to set up a survey to ask visitors: 1. How fast is your internet access? 2. Which browser are you using? 3. What OS/hardware are you using to access e-gold? Has this been done before? http://talk.e-gold.com http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com http://use.e-gold.com Thanks! I didn't know these links existed. Perhaps this information could go into the FAQ. e-gold could also improve navigation by making more of the website's functionality and information available from the main page. I've done this in the mockup by including links of interest to each of e-gold's constituencies--everyone, beginners, merchants, developers. IMO, that end's up cluttering the page. Well, one man's clutter is another man's invaluable navigational aid...: While increasing the number of links in the navbars may increase the visual clutter, I think they reduce the complexity of using the website by making it possible to get to the most used parts of the websites in one or two clicks, without having to drill down into the website. As for the additional content (news, pricing info), e-gold is far from saturating the potential market, and a large fraction of the visitors to e-gold will be newbies. They're going to most want to know a) what e-gold is b) how much it costs c) how to get it. If it doesn't significantly increase download speed, nor decrease experienced users usability, why not reduce the effort new users must expend by putting this information on the front page? Experienced e-gold users probably aren't going to look at the rest of the page--they're just going to look at the navbar links at the top of the page, and ignore the rest. (Or use http://use.egold.com). So do I. However, e-gold actually figured out how to do it properly. I have never had a problem with lagging frames on the e-gold site. I swear I found a page that framed an outside link. But I can't find it now, so I apologize for suggesting that e-gold's site exhibited this behavior. I would also include a discussion of market maker fees, and wire transfer and money order fees because the user will have to pay these fees to use e-gold, even if the fees aren't charged by e-gold itself. All the market maker's are completely indepedent of e-gold and able to change their fee structures at any time. Money orders have differing costs depending on where they are bought. Wire transfer/money order fees, and MM markup significantly raise the cost of using e-gold for small transactions. For example, to buy $20 of e-gold from flatrategold.com, it costs $7.50 in MM markup, plus another $3.00 for the money order. (Plus a lot of hassle relative to credit cards.) That's a 53% charge, which isn't included in e-gold's comparison of the costs of using e-gold vs. credit cards.(Though maybe I'm missing something again. Also, I don't mean to pick on flatrategold.com--they just happen to be the company I bought gold from--it's probably a comparable experience buying from most of the other market makers.) Of course, you could reduce the transaction cost by buying a lot of e-gold. But e-gold's still quite new, and people are going to be wary of it. Most people are going to want to test the system with a small amount of money before trusting it with a large amount of money. It would be nice if e-gold provided more information upfront about the total costs of
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold web site
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bold attempt Chris, but I think it looks horrible! jpm, Thanks for taking the time to respond. I would be grateful if you would expand a little more specifically. What platform are you using to look at the site? Netscape? IE? Are style sheets turned on? Mac/Linux/Windows? I tested the site under Netscape 4.72 on Linux/Windows, Internet Explorer 5.0 on Windows 98, and Lynx--I don't have access to a Mac at the moment, so it may look bad on that platform. I would also appreciate description of any specific annoyances that you may have--color scheme, layout, font choice, etc. Thanks again for any information you may wish to provide, Chris -- Use e-gold? Send me two cents: http://2cw.org/257121[EMAIL PROTECTED] Read the _Wall Street Performer Protocol_: http://www.openknowledge.org/writing/open-source/scb/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold web site
Cosmetically site presentation is very subjective and you are never going to find a site design that everyone likes. I beliebe that the presentation is really catered for by the market makers who seem to me to be the 'front end' of the market place. It is, or should be, the market makers who sell the service, answer the questions, discuss and promote e-gold. e-gold simply sits there and reaps the reward. they do not need to promte their site and do not regard that sort of thing as important as is done by others opn their behalf. The security of the site is more important i think than how cosmetic it is. The only thing I would say is that it could be a bit easier to wander around in and find things. Cosmetically i don't give a stuff what it looks like. chuck = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Viking, Thanks for taking the time to comment. Ultimately, if e-gold decides to redesign their site, I think they should get a group of 5-10 newbies and videotape them trying to use it. In the meantime, I've created an informal survey--if you want to express your preference for either e-gold.com's current site design or the mockup (http://www.openknowledge.org/egold/), A bold attempt Chris, but I think it looks horrible! I think this fuss about e-gold web site is somewhat misplaced ... it looks fine, the illustration is professional, etc. The secondary pages are a bit of a jumble .. but so what? No user in the history of the web has ever clicked on a secondary page :) Leave design to professional designers. (And they're expensive. I'm sure the boys at e-gold will spend money on that when profits make it possible.) please go to the following site and answer the survey question: http://tools.arsdigita.com/voxpopuli/ViewPoll?poll_id=3061 --- "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Powered by http://www.telstra.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
