Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Vikram Chhatre
Having access to better technology than in the days of typewriters is hardly a defense for this practice. Writing a reference letter that makes a difference in the outcome of an application still remains a task that requires significant time and thought investment. I will also go out on a

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Emily Moran
Maybe the option to supply a single letter could be offered for those applicants who suspect that their record on paper does not reflect their abilities accurately. Of course, comparisons would not be entirely even if some applicants had letters and others did not, but if everyone listed 3

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Street, Garrett
Interest Group The British Ecological Society From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of Dixon, Mark Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:48 PM To: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications It is m

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Andrew Barton
UMD.EDU> on behalf of kapil K.Khadka < >> kishorka...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:47:10 PM >> *To:* ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU >> *Subject:* Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications >> >> I agree with Brian and I have been going thro

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Tiff Stephens
- > *From:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news < > ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of kapil K.Khadka < > kishorka...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:47:10 PM > *To:* ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [ECOLOG-L

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Dixon, Mark
@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Judith Weis Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:02 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications Letter-writers shouldn't complain. They have it a lot easier than back in the days when each letter had to be typed out separately

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Judith Weis
! From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of kapil K.Khadka <kishorka...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:47:10 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job app

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Barney Luttbeg
Seems to me when I was on the market 10-15 years ago that most jobs asked for letters up front. So, I don't feel that there really has been an increase in that, but perhaps someone has the numbers. I would say from the committee's perspective it is less work (for them) to ask for the letters

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread kapil K.Khadka
I agree with Brian and I have been going through this phase for the last couple of months. As a PhD student in a track of graduation, I am applying for a Postdoc position. And, everytime I apply I need to ask for letters from the referees. So far I have found them happy enough for writing a

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread John Anderson
at the same time, both as someone who writes letters and someone who has seen an applicant move from the "ah, whatever" to the "let's talk" pile based on a good letter of reference, I would encourage all of you to keep writing & keep reading. On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Fidele Bognounou <

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-31 Thread Fidele Bognounou
Hi Brian, Very good point! There are even potential candidates that will not apply for a position because they don't want to keek annoying the providers of the letters. Fidele On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Patrick, Brian wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > > > I have noticed

[ECOLOG-L] Need for letters for job applications

2017-08-30 Thread Patrick, Brian
Dear colleagues, I have noticed over the years a significant increase in the number of position announcements that state that full applications must include three letters of reference. As someone who has been on numerous search committees, has written a fair number of letters of