Having access to better technology than in the days of typewriters is hardly a
defense for
this practice. Writing a reference letter that makes a difference in the
outcome of an
application still remains a task that requires significant time and thought
investment. I will
also go out on a
Maybe the option to supply a single letter could be offered for those
applicants who suspect that their record on paper does not reflect their
abilities accurately. Of course, comparisons would not be entirely even if
some applicants had letters and others did not, but if everyone listed 3
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Letter-writers shouldn't complain. They have it a lot easier than back in the
days when each letter had to be typed out separately
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Seems to me when I was on the market 10-15 years ago that most jobs asked
for letters up front. So, I don't feel that there really has been an
increase in that, but perhaps someone has the numbers. I would say from the
committee's perspective it is less work (for them) to ask for the letters
I agree with Brian and I have been going through this phase for the last
couple of months. As a PhD student in a track of graduation, I am applying
for a Postdoc position. And, everytime I apply I need to ask for letters
from the referees. So far I have found them happy enough for writing a
at the same time, both as someone who writes letters and someone who has
seen an applicant move from the "ah, whatever" to the "let's talk" pile
based on a good letter of reference, I would encourage all of you to keep
writing & keep reading.
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Fidele Bognounou <
Hi Brian,
Very good point!
There are even potential candidates that will not apply for a position
because they don't want to keek annoying the providers of the letters.
Fidele
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Patrick, Brian wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
>
>
> I have noticed
Dear colleagues,
I have noticed over the years a significant increase in the number of position
announcements that state that full applications must include three letters of
reference. As someone who has been on numerous search committees, has written
a fair number of letters of
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