Hi all–
One point regarding Neahga Leonard's observations: Tamarisks (like
cottonwoods and cattails) are primarily anemochores, so seed dispersal
doesn't strongly depend on their position in any particular watershed. They
may spring up in any damp patch, often many miles from a seed source, up,
Dear Katie and Others,
I can understand (and partially agree with) some of the negative
reaction that many have had to the Davis et al. article in Nature. I
do not share the authors' desire to extol the virtues of non-native
species (except perhaps for agricultural and medicinal species).
A lot of good points and examples being brought up on both sides of the
issue here.
Wayne's comment about healthy ecosystems needing far less intervention by us
than we think is particularly interesting. From my experience, that is
true, but the problem is in finding a healthy ecosystem.
Friends,
While I am devoted to all the plants, of course, sometimes vilifying
invasive plants is the right thing to do. For example, we need to
vilify the strawberry guava (Psidium cattleianum) in Hawaii that
displaces native forests across watersheds
, Oregon
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That someone would suggest that 19 authors is equivalent to 6 times as much
peer review shows a fundamental misunderstanding of peer review. Nature
itself lists independence from the authors and their institutions first among
criteria for referees. To suggest that authors serve as their own
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Dear Esat, Over the past three decades, there are hundreds of examples
worldwide
of exotic invasives negatively impacting ecosystems, and these span
Hi all, not that Esat needs me to defend him but the list of species
that can be 'googled' and identified as invasive scourges is, I
suspect, longer than the list that actually are scourges. One of the
species that was identified in Amyarta's list, purple loosestrife, is
a classic
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Hi all, not that Esat needs me to defend him but the list of species that
can be 'googled' and identified as invasive scourges is, I suspect,
longer than the list that actually
Matt Chew has presented an interesting perspective on how the Nature editorial
(Davis et al. 2011, Don’t judge species by their origins) came into being. I
have significant concerns about the paper, which while certainly interesting
and provocative, does not live up to the standards of Nature.
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, Oregon
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IMHO, they are attacking a straw man. I haven't seen many scientists,
managers, policy-makers etc. getting all worked up about non-indigenous
species who integrate well into the environment, get a green card, pay
their taxes etc. The ones that are being attacked and for which they are
spending
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IMHO, they are attacking a straw man. I haven't seen many scientists,
managers, policy
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IMHO, they are attacking a straw
and
it would be through such new thinking that the issue would receive a fresh
understanding.
Esat Atikkan
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Interesting points.
At the same time alien/introduced/invasivespecies that truly alter an
environment, out compete others, and in general, lead to ecological mayhem - I
am not aware
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Dear Esat, Over the past three decades, there are hundreds of examples
worldwide
of exotic invasives negatively impacting ecosystems, and these span both plants
and animals.
Whether expensive exotic removal
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