Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread James J. Roper

Hi Jim et al.,

I guess I don't undertand what one would mean by your question, as to 
whether they behave differently.  No two species behave the same in 
any event, so any given pair of species behaves differently, 
regardless of origin.  Have you read Ricklefs - Disintegration of the 
ecological community?  If the community is more of an accident in space 
and time rather than a co-evolved bunch of species, then there is no 
reason to think that any two species behave the same.


Let's put it in terms of testable hypotheses.  Let's say we have two 
species, A and B, both are native and we have C, non native.


Hypothesis: (A = B) ne C? (where ne is not equal).

Clearly A ne B ne C, because, they are all different species.  If you 
can put your idea of behavior being equal in terms of testable 
hypotheses, I think we could advance.


I would also like to see the word matter as in does it matter? 
placed into a real context, with hypotheses included.  I still think the 
ambiguity of the terms is the reason behind the confusion.


Cheers,

Jim

James Crants wrote on 10-May-10 19:23:

Jim,
Actually, you answered the question of whether exotic and native 
species can be distinguished at all, while the question we could not 
agree on is whether the distinction is ecologically meaningful.  Does 
an exotic species behave differently from a native one?  If not, then 
why should it matter to an ecologist whether a species is native or 
not?  I say exotic species do behave differently, for reasons I gave 
in my post, and I think it does matter whether a species is native.  
Dr. Chew (as I understand it) says exotic species do not behave 
differently, as a group, that the distinction is ecologically 
meaningless, and that it therefore does not matter whether a species 
is native.  We define native and exotic based on geographic 
history, and I think he says that that's the only distinction that can 
objectively be made between the two categories.
I would agree with William Silvert that we are getting wrapped up in 
irrelevant rigor, except that I think important things might hang in 
the balance here.  Invasive species biology loses most of its social 
relevance if native and exotic species are not ecologically 
distinguishable.  Also, while I agree that we have to accept fuzzy 
definitions for fuzzy concepts (i.e., most concepts), a tendency 
emerged in the off-forum discussion to fuzz everything together to the 
point where humans are just another organism, nothing we do is 
exceptional, and we have no moral obligation to modify our ecological 
impact, one way or another, even if doing so is well within our 
power.  That's a matter of using such fuzzy definitions that they 
cease to be definitions at all, which is different from what Silvert 
is advocating, but I guess I'm just saying that it's important not to 
throw out a categorization just because the categories have fuzzy 
boundaries.

Jim Crants

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM, James J. Roper jjro...@gmail.com 
mailto:jjro...@gmail.com wrote:


Ah Jim,

But that question is easy to answer.  If humans put the species in
a place or it arrived in a place that it would not have gotten to
on its own, then it is introduced, otherwise it is native or
natural.  Clearly this is a mere consequence of the short history
of humans as dispersal agents on the planet, but it is a good
enough definition for 99% of the cases - just check the classic by
Elton.

We already have the term naturalized which basically means it's
here to stay and there is nothing we can do about it.

I personally think that for almost all intents and purposes, those
definitions work.  When they don't work, we are either splitting
hairs or don't have clear objectives.

I think a clear consequence of this, is that humans should avoid
introducing and we should often actively eliminate introductions. 
But, that idea is based on the premise that we want nature to run

its course without human help - but that is not a universally
accepted premise.  And, a second premise is that evolution by
natural selection and how nature may have influenced that through
genetic drift, lateral gene transfer or what have you, is what is
interesting about nature.  I can see a future in which ecologists
merely study how natural selection influenced organisms after
their introduction, or as a consequence of the introduction of
other species.  Boring.  After all, those will always be on a
short term scale and will only illustrate what we probably already
know about evolution.  The big picture, long term consequence of
continental drift, punctuated equilibrium and so on, which have
resulted in the fascinating diversity of life, do not occur in one
or two human generations - but we can certainly wipe out the
evidence of them in the same short time frame.  Extinctions and
introduced species will do just 

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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread William Silvert
Jim misses my point. The difference is not whether we call the transfers 
natural or anthropogenic, but whether we can control them. I think that we 
need to focus on what we can do about transfers and not get tied up in 
trying to define natural and invasive. After all, we can also control 
some natural events.


Bill

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To go straight to the meat of the issue:

William Silvert wrote on 11-May-10 11:31:
One of the greatest invasions in ecological history occurred when the 
Mediterranean connected to the Atlantic Ocean. How fundamentally 
different is that from the opening of the Suez or Panama canals?


Well, sure, but trivially so.  We are only talking about rates here.  And, 
the fact that we will lose diversity and richness and local history as a 
consequence of our introductions.  But, over geological time, it's just a 
drop in the bucket.


Indeed, your argument, taken to its extreme is, well, since the big bang, 
all kinds of things have happened and until the big freeze they will 
continue, so why does it matter what happens in our lifetimes?


Clearly we need to define the word matter as in what does it matter.

Cheers,

Jim 


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread Scott Higgins
The translocation of species around the world can, and do, have dramatic
effects on the world's ecosystems. Well known and respected ecologists rank
these biological exchanges as one of leading threats to ecosystem integrity
in marine, freshwater, and terrestrial ecosystems over the next 100 years
(see Sala et al. 2000, Simberloff 1996, and others).  These rankings are in
part a matter of conjecture, but we also have a great body of quantitative
knowledge on the effects of biological exchanges.  When we ask the question
'Are non-native species ecologically different from native species?' we must
be careful not to lose ourselves in semantics.  This said, there is
legitimate concern among ecologists regarding the development of a sub-field
of invasion biology that operates in isolation from other ecological
disciplines such as community ecology.  Simply put, non-native species may
have very similar ecological functions from native species and lessons
learned in community ecology should help drive our understanding of
biological invasions.  Does this mean there is not a meaningful ecological
distinction?  Absolutely not. When species are moved around and between
continents by human activities (at increasingly high rates) they often leave
behind natural predators, competitors, parasites, and diseases.  In some
cases these non-native species become troublesome, and in a small proportion
of cases very troublesome.  Thus, from a community ecology perspective
non-native species that may be functionally similar to native species may
still induce changes in food webs, nutrient cycling, etc that have far
reaching implications.  So, are exotic and native species ecologically
different...they certainly can be.  Is the distinction ecologically
meaningful...absolutely.  

Scott Higgins


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Colonizing species etc

Jim,

Actually, you answered the question of whether exotic and native species can
be distinguished at all, while the question we could not agree on is whether
the distinction is ecologically meaningful.  Does an exotic species behave
differently from a native one?  If not, then why should it matter to an
ecologist whether a species is native or not?  I say exotic species do
behave differently, for reasons I gave in my post, and I think it does
matter whether a species is native.  Dr. Chew (as I understand it) says
exotic species do not behave differently, as a group, that the distinction
is ecologically meaningless, and that it therefore does not matter whether a
species is native.  We define native and exotic based on geographic
history, and I think he says that that's the only distinction that can
objectively be made between the two categories.

I would agree with William Silvert that we are getting wrapped up in
irrelevant rigor, except that I think important things might hang in the
balance here.  Invasive species biology loses most of its social relevance
if native and exotic species are not ecologically distinguishable.  Also,
while I agree that we have to accept fuzzy definitions for fuzzy concepts
(i.e., most concepts), a tendency emerged in the off-forum discussion to
fuzz everything together to the point where humans are just another
organism, nothing we do is exceptional, and we have no moral obligation to
modify our ecological impact, one way or another, even if doing so is well
within our power.  That's a matter of using such fuzzy definitions that they
cease to be definitions at all, which is different from what Silvert is
advocating, but I guess I'm just saying that it's important not to throw out
a categorization just because the categories have fuzzy boundaries.

Jim Crants

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM, James J. Roper jjro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah Jim,

 But that question is easy to answer.  If humans put the species in a place
 or it arrived in a place that it would not have gotten to on its own, then
 it is introduced, otherwise it is native or natural.  Clearly this is a
mere
 consequence of the short history of humans as dispersal agents on the
 planet, but it is a good enough definition for 99% of the cases - just
check
 the classic by Elton.

 We already have the term naturalized which basically means it's here to
 stay and there is nothing we can do about it.

 I personally think that for almost all intents and purposes, those
 definitions work.  When they don't work, we are either splitting hairs or
 don't have clear objectives.

 I think a clear consequence of this, is that humans should avoid
 introducing and we should often actively eliminate introductions.  But,
that
 idea is based on the premise that we want nature to run its course without
 human help - but that is not a universally accepted premise.  

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread James Crants
I think I have not made my arguments clearly enough.  I merely intended
to summarize my moral case for suppressing invasives as part of my summary
of the off-forum conversation.  My numbered paragraphs were intended to
address the claim that there is no ecological difference between native and
exotic species, and the claim that there is no ecological difference between
human-mediated dispersal and dispersal by any other agent.  My responses to
Matt's responses to those paragraphs are below:


JC(1) Exotic species, on average, interact with fewer species than native

 species, and their interactions are  weaker, on average.  In particular,
 they have fewer parasites, pathogens, and predators, counted in either
 individuals or species.  This is especially true of plants, and especially
 non-crop plants.  I suspect, but have not heard, that exotic plants also
 have fewer mycorrhizal associates than native ones, but I doubt that they
 have significantly fewer pollinators or dispersers.  Meanwhile, back in
 their native ranges, the same species have the same number of associations
 as any other native species.
 MC(1) Natural selection only produces interactions good enough to persist
 under prevailing conditions; there is no gold standard. By definition, 50%
 of all species interact with fewer species than average, and  50% of all
 interactions are weaker than average.  Preferring stronger, more complex
 interactions means preferring more tightly-coupled (and therefore)
 'riskier'
 systems with a higher likelihood of failure.

JC (1b) The argument about how many species interact with fewer species than
average misses my point.  I'm saying that, if you counted the biological
interactions for each native species and each exotic species in some area
(could be a square meter, could be the world), I believe you would find that
the average number for exotic species would be significantly lower than the
average for exotic species.  Thus, exotic species are ecologically different
from native species.

Actually, having more interactions may mean greater stability, on average,
since some of those interactions are functionally redundant.  I would have
to brush up on my community ecology to be sure I'm not being overly
simplistic, but I know this is true in pollination systems; pollinators that
interact with more angiosperm species have greater population stability, on
average, and angiosperms with more pollinator species have greater
reproductive stability, on average (though I don't know if this leads to
greater population stability for long-lived species).

I'm not sure what you mean by systems with a higher likelihood of
failure.  It seems to me that failure is a matter of human values not being
realized.  If, by failure, you mean rapid change, well, that hardly
seems to be a problem for you.  I would have to agree that systems managed
to promote natives at the expense of exotics are more prone to failure than
those where any and all ecological outcomes are deemed acceptable, but
that's only because failure in the former group means invasion and
domination by exotic species, while there is no such thing as failure in
the latter group.


 JC(2) Very-long-distance dispersal by humans confers a fitness advantage
 over very-long-distance dispersal by other agents, on average, for two
 reasons.  First, humans often disperse organisms in groups, such
 as containers of seeds, shipments of mature plants and animals, or large
 populations contained in ballast water, allowing them to overcome the Allee
 effects (lack of mates, inbreeding depression) their populations would face
 if introduced as one or a few individuals.  We also often take pains to
 maximize the establishment success of organisms we disperse, by shipping
 healthy, mature plants and animals and propogating them when they arrive,
 while non-human dispersal agents usually introduce small numbers of
 organisms, often nowhere near their peak fitness potential (e.g., seeds,
 spores, starving and dehydrated animals).
 MC(2). JC appears to be arguing that once rare occurrences are no longer
 rare.  I agree.  But I draw the opposite conclusion, because he is arguing
 that to generate such changes is morally wrong, while I am just saying:
 when
 these conditions prevail, long distance dispersal becomes normal.

JC(2b) I'm not saying anything (here) about whether the recent commonness of
previously-rare dispersal events is morally wrong.  I'm countering the
argument that human-mediated dispersal confers no fitness advantage
over dispersal by any other agent.  Others may be aware of an invasive
exotic species that was not imported by humans in far greater numbers than
we could reasonably expect from any other agent, even if it had 100,000
years to work, but I am not.

Furthermore, most invasive species were carefully planted and tended across
large areas.  Others may know of a dispersal agent that takes such care of
the species it disperses AND has any realistic potential 

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread James Crants
Jim Roper,

There's a difference between saying that two species are not
ecologically equivalent and saying that two categories of species are not
ecologically equivalent.  If exotic species (as a category) were
ecologically equivalent to native ones, you would still find that every
species would differ from every other species by at least a few measures.
I'm saying that, as a category, exotic species are ecologically different
from native ones.

I am deliberately leaving this difference vague because the term
ecologically different can serve as an umbrella for all kinds of
differences that are relevant to interactions among organisms and between
organisms and their environment.  Specific differences I would expect to
find include:  (1) exotic plants have fewer insect herbivore species and
lose a smaller percentage of their biomass to insect herbivores than native
plants, and (2) exotic species have fewer pathogens than native species.
Similarly, I am using vague terms like behave and matters because I want
to include a wide array of phenomena, though I suppose you could reasonably
argue against the idea of species behaving on the grounds that behavior is
something individual organisms or closely connected groups of individuals
do.

I think most of the confusion in this conversation comes from the fact
that Matthew Chew and I just don't agree on whether there's any ecological
difference between exotic species and native ones.  If they aren't, then
what's the point in investing time, money, and energy in controlling exotic
species or propagating natives?

William Silvert,

I didn't really mean to disagree with your fuzzy definitions.  In fact, I
like them, and I think you could get some ecological insights by using those
definitions that you could miss with artificially clear distinctions.  Also,
I've said more than once that, if we have to throw out any term with
indistinct boundaries, we won't find we have much at all left to discuss in
the field of ecology.  We would not be able to talk about forests,
pollinators, the Mediterranean Sea, etc.  I just wanted to emphasize, in
anticipation of certain everything's the same as everything else arguments
that have come up before, that there's a difference between categories with
fuzzy boundaries and categories that are totally indistinct and therefore
meaningless.

One of the keys to arguing against controlling invasive exotic species is
destroying the moral arguments that motivate people to bother in the first
place.  To do this, it helps to use clever language to blur the lines
between categories to the point where it's hard to see that native,
exotic, invasive, and non-invasive have any meaning at all, except as
inflammatory terms used by people who want to manipulate your emotions.  The
same basic approach is used to stop people doing anything about global
warming (e.g., the globe warms and cools all the time; without global
warming, earth would be frozen and hostile to life; why do we get excited
about human CO2 emissions and not volcanic ones?), species extinctions
(repeat the above, modifying appropriately), deforestation (repeat), and so
on.  For that matter, blurring the lines between humans and everything else
(humans are part of nature) is very effective.  For one thing, humans ARE
a part of nature, and we do cause some harm by saying we're not.  For
another, it's easy to reduce this down to humans are just another animal,
thus ignoring our truly exceptional intellectual abilities and capacity for
empathy and moral thought.  Anyway, I wanted to head off these sorts of
defitions-so-fuzzy-they-mean-nothing, not to disagree with the definitions
you gave.

As for oceans merging, I can't see a big ecological distinction between the
Mediterranean joining the Alantic without human intervention and humans
building the Suez and Panama Canals.  If anything, I bet the
Mediterranean-Atlantic merger was more ecologically dramatic than the
canals, in that it probably changed the sea level and salinity of the
Mediterranean quite a bit, and the migration of species into the
Mediterranean was probably more rapid.  Also, it can hardly be argued that
two oceanic mergers via human-made canal within a century is a rapidly
greater rate of mergers than one merger without human intervention in the
same amount of time.  All my arguments about humans bringing more species in
greater numbers than other dispersal agents, and tending them more carefully
after dispersal, do not apply to these cases, as far as I know.

Jim Crants


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Meiss
C'mon, Bill S,
 It sounds like you're advocating rational policy based on
case-by-case evaluation with regard to consensus values.  Where ya gonna get
with that?
 Martin Meiss

2010/5/11 William Silvert cien...@silvert.org

 Although Jim Crants in a later post raised questions about whether by being
 fuzzy we risk avoiding responsible for human actions, I have to take issue
 with Roper's definitions. In large part this is because in some cases the
 distinction between humans and (other) animals is not relevant.

 Clearly in cases like the introduction of the rabbit to Australia we have a
 clear case of introduction, 100% in fuzzy terms. But consider the following
 cases:

 When American Bison migrate they disperse parasites and disease organisms,
 clearly this is a natural process.

 When Bison are depleted due to human depredation they may travel in search
 of mates, again dispersing parasites and disease organisms.

 Indians used to stampede Bison over cliffs as a means of hunting them, the
 survivors may flee and disperse parasites and disease organisms.

 Cattle grazing in the lands where Bison used to be plentiful may disperse
 parasites and disease organisms in the same way.

 Human herders following the cattle may disperse parasites and disease
 organisms on their clothing.

 And so on. Are nomadic tribes totally different from migrating animals?

 Crants later writes that Invasive species biology loses most of its social
 relevance if native and exotic species are not ecologically
 distinguishable. but I do not think that we need to draw sharp lines
 between them. Migrations can be blocked by fences and roads, nomads may be
 confined within national boundaries. I don't think that invasive species
 biology requires that every species be either totally invasive or totally
 natural. And imagine what would happen if some exotic species that we blamed
 on ballast water transport turned out to arrive via a parasitic life stage
 on some migratory fish! All those papers to be withdrawn!

 One of the greatest invasions in ecological history occurred when the
 Mediterranean connected to the Atlantic Ocean. How fundamentally different
 is that from the opening of the Suez or Panama canals?

 Bill Silvert

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 Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de Maio de 2010 22:52

 Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena
 Colonizing species etc


  But that question is easy to answer.  If humans put the species in a place
 or it arrived in a place that it would not have gotten to on its own, then
 it is introduced, otherwise it is native or natural.
 James Crants wrote on 10-May-10 12:51:


 In the discussion off-forum, we were unable to come to any conclusions
 because we could not agree on answer to even the most fundamental
 question:
 is the distinction between exotic and native species ecologically
 meaningful?  If you can't agree on that, there's no point in going on to
 ask
 whether there's such a thing as an invasive exotic species, whethere
 invasive exotics are a problem, and what, if anything, we should do about
 it.




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2010-05-11 Thread Jennifer Riem
REMINDER!  Call for Latebreaking Poster Abstracts

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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread Dixon, Mark
Seems like this question - whether exotics differ (as a group) from natives - 
would be fertile ground for research.  I assume that there have been many 
studies where someone has addressed this in some sort of a meta-analysis, but 
am not personally familiar with those studies (nor with what they found).

I suspect, however, that it is more productive to look at this issue on a 
case-by-case basis as Meiss and Silvert imply.  That is, not all exotics are 
invasives that damage native communities, and some might have valuable 
functions for sustaining biodiversity.

Mark D. Dixon
Assistant Professor
Department of Biology
University of South Dakota
Vermillion, SD 57069
Phone: (605) 677-6567
Fax: (605) 677-6557
Email: mark.di...@usd.edu
 
-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news 
[mailto:ecolo...@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of James Crants
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:06 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing 
species etc

Jim Roper,

There's a difference between saying that two species are not
ecologically equivalent and saying that two categories of species are not
ecologically equivalent.  If exotic species (as a category) were
ecologically equivalent to native ones, you would still find that every
species would differ from every other species by at least a few measures.
I'm saying that, as a category, exotic species are ecologically different
from native ones.

I am deliberately leaving this difference vague because the term
ecologically different can serve as an umbrella for all kinds of
differences that are relevant to interactions among organisms and between
organisms and their environment.  Specific differences I would expect to
find include:  (1) exotic plants have fewer insect herbivore species and
lose a smaller percentage of their biomass to insect herbivores than native
plants, and (2) exotic species have fewer pathogens than native species.
Similarly, I am using vague terms like behave and matters because I want
to include a wide array of phenomena, though I suppose you could reasonably
argue against the idea of species behaving on the grounds that behavior is
something individual organisms or closely connected groups of individuals
do.

I think most of the confusion in this conversation comes from the fact
that Matthew Chew and I just don't agree on whether there's any ecological
difference between exotic species and native ones.  If they aren't, then
what's the point in investing time, money, and energy in controlling exotic
species or propagating natives?

William Silvert,

I didn't really mean to disagree with your fuzzy definitions.  In fact, I
like them, and I think you could get some ecological insights by using those
definitions that you could miss with artificially clear distinctions.  Also,
I've said more than once that, if we have to throw out any term with
indistinct boundaries, we won't find we have much at all left to discuss in
the field of ecology.  We would not be able to talk about forests,
pollinators, the Mediterranean Sea, etc.  I just wanted to emphasize, in
anticipation of certain everything's the same as everything else arguments
that have come up before, that there's a difference between categories with
fuzzy boundaries and categories that are totally indistinct and therefore
meaningless.

One of the keys to arguing against controlling invasive exotic species is
destroying the moral arguments that motivate people to bother in the first
place.  To do this, it helps to use clever language to blur the lines
between categories to the point where it's hard to see that native,
exotic, invasive, and non-invasive have any meaning at all, except as
inflammatory terms used by people who want to manipulate your emotions.  The
same basic approach is used to stop people doing anything about global
warming (e.g., the globe warms and cools all the time; without global
warming, earth would be frozen and hostile to life; why do we get excited
about human CO2 emissions and not volcanic ones?), species extinctions
(repeat the above, modifying appropriately), deforestation (repeat), and so
on.  For that matter, blurring the lines between humans and everything else
(humans are part of nature) is very effective.  For one thing, humans ARE
a part of nature, and we do cause some harm by saying we're not.  For
another, it's easy to reduce this down to humans are just another animal,
thus ignoring our truly exceptional intellectual abilities and capacity for
empathy and moral thought.  Anyway, I wanted to head off these sorts of
defitions-so-fuzzy-they-mean-nothing, not to disagree with the definitions
you gave.

As for oceans merging, I can't see a big ecological distinction between the
Mediterranean joining the Alantic without human intervention and humans
building the Suez and Panama Canals.  If anything, I bet the
Mediterranean-Atlantic merger was more ecologically dramatic 

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread James J. Roper

To go straight to the meat of the issue:

William Silvert wrote on 11-May-10 11:31:
One of the greatest invasions in ecological history occurred when the 
Mediterranean connected to the Atlantic Ocean. How fundamentally 
different is that from the opening of the Suez or Panama canals? 


Well, sure, but trivially so.  We are only talking about rates here.  
And, the fact that we will lose diversity and richness and local history 
as a consequence of our introductions.  But, over geological time, it's 
just a drop in the bucket.


Indeed, your argument, taken to its extreme is, well, since the big 
bang, all kinds of things have happened and until the big freeze they 
will continue, so why does it matter what happens in our lifetimes?


Clearly we need to define the word matter as in what does it matter.

Cheers,

Jim


[ECOLOG-L] Last Reminder: 2010 National Wetlands Awards 6-8 pm on May 19

2010-05-11 Thread wetlandswawards
The Environmental Law Institute cordially invites you to the 2010
National Wetlands Awards ceremony, which will take place on Wednesday,
May 19, from 6-8 p.m. at the U.S. Capitol Visitor Center, Room HVC-215.
The National Wetlands Awards program honors excellence in wetlands
conservation and has recognized more than 150 individuals for their
accomplishments and years of dedication and leadership. 

 

Senator Benjamin L. Cardin (D-MD) will present this year's keynote
address. Sen. Cardin, along with Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME), Rep. Fred
Upton (R-MI), and Rep. Jay Inslee (D-WA), are the ceremony's Honorary
Congressional Co-Sponsors.

 

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson will
speak at the Awards ceremony. She and senior representatives from the
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the Federal Highway Administration, the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Natural Resources
Conservation Service, and the USDA Forest Service will present the
Awards to: Jim Wilcox for Conservation and Restoration; Bill Volkert for
Education and Outreach; The Laszlo Family for Landowner Stewardship;
Rebecca Sharitz for Science Research; Michael Cain for State, Tribal,
and Local Program Development, and Jan Vandersloot for Wetland Community
Leader. To read about this year's recipients, please visit
www.nationalwetlandsawards.org. Please join us for this wonderful and
inspiring event.

 

Please RSVP to ELI by May 14, at
www.nationalwetlandsawards.org/rsvp.cfm.


[ECOLOG-L] Kahl Scientific - what happened to them?

2010-05-11 Thread Theodore Lewis
I am requesting assistance and information regarding Kahl Scientific 
Instrument Corporation (Kahlsico International) of San Diego, CA, USA. 
Does anyone know if they were bought out or if any group is supporting 
or selling their products.


Thank you,

Ted Lewis
Research Scientist and Associate Faculty
Department of Environmental Science and Biology
The College at Brockport, State University of New York


[ECOLOG-L] exporting data from Excel

2010-05-11 Thread David Inouye
I collect phenological data that are then stored in an Excel 
spreadsheet. But if I want to archive the data in someplace like 
Ecological Archives, I can't do that in a proprietary format, just 
plain ASCII text.  A previous spreadsheet program I used to use (now 
extinct) had an option for exporting to a text file and listing for 
each cell the formula in the cell, if there was one, rather than the 
result of the formula, which is all I seem to be able to get Excel to 
do. But there is information in the formula (the frequency 
distribution of flowers per inflorescence) that would be lost without 
the formula.  Do you know of a way to export the Excel formula?  Or 
another program that would do that?  Thanks.


David Inouye


[ECOLOG-L] Call for submissions for the special issue on ANIMAL COGNITION

2010-05-11 Thread jiazy
Dear Colleagues,

The Journal of CURRENT ZOOLOGY (ISSN 1674-5507, 
http://www.currentzoology.org/index.asp) is preparing  a special issue on 
ANIMAL COGNITION for the 2nd issue of 2011. The deadline for title and abstract 
submissions is June 10, 2010, and deadline for manuscript submission is 
November 10, 2010. You may send your manuscript now or by the deadline. 
Submitted papers should not have been published previously, nor be under 
consideration for publication elsewhere.

Submitted manuscripts are accepted with the understanding that they are subject 
to peer review and editorial revision. There is no publication or processing 
charges. Please visit the Instructions for Authors before submitting a 
manuscript (http://www.currentzoology.org/instruct.asp. Manuscripts should be 
submitted by e-mail to Dr. Michael H. Ferkin (mhfer...@memphis.edu) with copies 
to the Executive Editor, Dr. Zhi-Yun Jia (ji...@ioz.ac.cn). The subject title 
of the message should be Manuscript for Special Issue on ANIMAL COGNITION”.  
If you intend to contribute to this special issue but can not submite before 
the deadline, please feel free to submite as regular submissions.

CURRENT ZOOLOGY (formerly /Acta Zoologica Sinica, founded in 1935, published in 
English since 2009) is a bimonthly, peer-reviewed international journal that 
publishes reviews, research articles, and short communications in all aspects 
of Zoology, including significant new findings of fundamental and general 
interest. Submissions in the research fields of ecology, behavioral biology, 
biogeography, conservation biology, evolutionary biology and genomics are 
especially welcome. In particular, CURRENT ZOOLOGY seeks to publish research 
that explores the interface between zoological disciplines, and is truly 
integrative by illuminating the greater picture.  

Thank you and looking forwad to your submissions.

Zhi-Yun JIA,Ph.D.
Executive Editor   
Current Zoology
http://www.currentzoology.org
Institute of Zoology   
The Chinese Academy of Sciences
Beichen Xilu, Chaoyang District, Beijing 100101, China  


 


[ECOLOG-L] Graduate Research Assistantship Invasive Plants

2010-05-11 Thread Mary Gardiner
Graduate Assistantship in the Agricultural Landscape Ecology Lab – Dr. 
Mary Gardiner, The Ohio State University

Widespread occurrence of the exotic invasive shrub common buckthorn, 
Rhamnus cathartica, has resulted in cascading ecosystem disservices across 
the north central U.S. A landscape approach to understanding and managing 
these effects is required to enhance agricultural production and protect 
the natural resource base. Common buckthorn invades natural areas where it 
directly reduces native biodiversity. In addition, it serves as the 
primary overwintering host of the exotic soybean aphid, Aphis glycines, 
allowing it to successfully overwinter in the north central U.S. Soybean 
aphid negatively impacts the production of soybean and vegetable crops by 
direct feeding and vectoring plant viruses. Moreover, the presence of 
soybean aphid has facilitated an increase in the exotic multi-colored 
Asian lady beetle Harmonia axyridis, leading to the decline of several 
native lady beetle species. Harmonia adults also invade homes where they 
cause human allergies. 

The goal of this project is to develop a fundamental quantitative 
understanding of the cascading impacts of this keystone invader on 
ecosystem function and services, and to develop economically and 
ecologically rational strategies for its management at landscape-scales. 
This USDA-funded project is regional in scope and includes a citizen 
science component. Both PhD and MS will be considered. Student could begin 
program in Fall 2010 or Spring 2011. For more information contact Mary 
Gardiner: gardiner...@osu.edu.


[ECOLOG-L] Post-Doc Everglades Methane Productin

2010-05-11 Thread Gregory Starr
We are seeking a highly motivated post-doctoral scientist to work on an 
interdisciplinary project 
looking at the interactions between microbial and plant communities of 
Everglades’ short 
hydroperiod marshes that drive methane dynamics.  The specific project 
opportunities will depend 
on the interests and experience of the applicant, but include: leaf to 
ecosystem photosynthetic 
processes, methane release, microbial production of methane, isotopic labeling, 
microbial ecology 
and assays. The post doc will interact with an interdisciplinary team from 
University of Alabama, 
Florida International University and the Everglades LTER. Applicants should 
possess a PhD in plant 
physiological ecology, plant ecology, plant physiology, microbial ecology or 
microbial physiology.  
The ideal candidate will have hands-on experience with stable isotopes and a 
strong background 
in working across disciplines.  
Foundation for this study: More than a century of water management and 
hydrologic modification 
in the Florida Everglades watershed has dramatically altered the system’s 
freshwater wetlands 
Historically, the Everglades were dominated by continuous slow sheet flow, but 
the construction of 
roads, levees, canals, and other flow control structures throughout South 
Florida has affected the 
quantity, timing, and location of water delivery to the Everglades.  These 
anthropogenic changes 
have altered hydroperiod, carbon (C) cycling and storage, nutrient levels, 
community assemblages, 
and fire regimes. The Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan (CERP), will 
further alter the 
timing and delivery of water to the Everglades, affecting productivity and C 
balances.  The vision of 
the Plan is “the restoration, preservation, and protection of the South Florida 
ecosystem while 
providing for other water-related needs of the region, including water supply 
and flood 
protection”.  The role that these continued changes will play on methane 
emissions in uncertain as 
these restoration plans move forward.  There is an urgent need to develop a 
comprehensive 
understanding of how methane is produced and emitted from the Everglades and 
how this may 
influence greenhouse-forcing units with alterations in hydrology.  
The position is funded for two years and includes, competitive salary, health 
benefits and a small 
moving allowance.  
Applicants should submit via email 1) a current curriculum vita, 2) a statement 
of research 
interests; and 3) the names, phone numbers and email addresses of three 
references to Dr. 
Gregory Starr (gst...@ua.edu or 205-348-0556).  For more information contact 
Dr. Starr, 
Department of Biological Sciences, University of Alabama. 
Initial review of applications will begin on June 7, 2010.  


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology Terminology and associated phenomena Colonizing species etc

2010-05-11 Thread Jason Hernandez
What, then, is the ecological difference between humans as a dispersal agent, 
and, say, seabirds as a dispersal agent?  When we study Hawaiian native plants, 
are we not studying how natural selection influenced organisms after their 
introduction, or as a consequence of 
the introduction of other species?  The system is still one of an organism 
having been brought to some isolated location to which it could not otherwise 
have gotten on its own.  The whole study of island biodiversity is inherently 
the study of introductions of alien species by various means, except in the 
case of continental islands formerly connected to the mainland.
 
Jason Hernandez
East Carolina University 

--- On Tue, 5/11/10, ECOLOG-L automatic digest system 
lists...@listserv.umd.edu wrote:


But that question is easy to answer.  If humans put the species in a 
place or it arrived in a place that it would not have gotten to on its 
own, then it is introduced, otherwise it is native or natural.  Clearly 
this is a mere consequence of the short history of humans as dispersal 
agents on the planet, but it is a good enough definition for 99% of the 
cases - just check the classic by Elton.

We already have the term naturalized which basically means it's here 
to stay and there is nothing we can do about it.

I personally think that for almost all intents and purposes, those 
definitions work.  When they don't work, we are either splitting hairs 
or don't have clear objectives.

I think a clear consequence of this, is that humans should avoid 
introducing and we should often actively eliminate introductions.  But, 
that idea is based on the premise that we want nature to run its course 
without human help - but that is not a universally accepted premise.  
And, a second premise is that evolution by natural selection and how 
nature may have influenced that through genetic drift, lateral gene 
transfer or what have you, is what is interesting about nature.  I can 
see a future in which ecologists merely study how natural selection 
influenced organisms after their introduction, or as a consequence of 
the introduction of other species.  Boring.  After all, those will 
always be on a short term scale and will only illustrate what we 
probably already know about evolution.  The big picture, long term 
consequence of continental drift, punctuated equilibrium and so on, 
which have resulted in the fascinating diversity of life, do not occur 
in one or two human generations - but we can certainly wipe out the 
evidence of them in the same short time frame.  Extinctions and 
introduced species will do just that.

Cheers,

Jim





[ECOLOG-L] Graduate student seeking summer position

2010-05-11 Thread Thomas Parr
I recently graduated from Indiana University in Bloomington with a Master's of 
Science in Environmental Science.  I will be starting a PhD program this fall 
and I am looking for summer employment to fill in the gap.  My specialty is 
aquatic ecology and surface water quality. I have significant lab experience 
with standard limnological analyses as well as sampling and analysis of 
biological specimens.  If you have an intern or technician position available 
this summer I will be happy to provide my CV and references for your 
consideration.

Thank you

Thomas Parr