Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-16 Thread David L. McNeely
Defining ecology is not really all that hard, and yes, it is worth doing. The definitions found in elementary ecology texts like that of Krebs are quite satisfactory. Krebs said, "Ecology is the scientific study of the interactions that determine the distribution and abundance of organisms."

[ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-16 Thread Matt Chew
It's nice to see signs of life. Right now responding to one in particular: Defining ecology is much harder than Liane Cochran-Stafira's hopeful assertion suggests. She favors "The scientific discipline that is concerned with the relationships between organisms and their past, present and future

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-16 Thread Cochran-Stafira, D. Liane
___ From: Clara B. Jones [mailto:foucaul...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 11/16/2011 11:39 AM To: Christopher M Moore Cc: ecolog-l@listserv.umd.edu; Cochran-Stafira, D. Liane Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it? 1. Liane: the definition of ecology is quite more complicated than w

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-16 Thread George Wang
Dear Ted et al., I find it somewhat incredible that the Vatican is not strongly opposed to some of the other principles of the Manifesto, namely, Principle #8, the advocation for human population reduction. Then again, I'm not complaining. -GW On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:25:49 -0500, Ted Mosquin

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-16 Thread Clara B. Jones
gt; > WT > > "In the heart of the city I have heard the wild geese crying on the > pathways that lie over a vanished forest. Nature has not changed the force > that drives them. Man, too, is a different expression of that natural > force. He has fought his way from the sea's

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-16 Thread Clara B. Jones
sion of that natural > force. He has fought his way from the sea's depth to Palomar Mountain. He > has mastered the plague. Now, in some final Armageddon, he confronts > himself." --Loren Eiseley, "The Invisible Pyramid." > > > > > - Original Message --

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-16 Thread Wayne Tyson
Now, in some final Armageddon, he confronts himself." --Loren Eiseley, "The Invisible Pyramid." - Original Message - From: "Cochran-Stafira, D. Liane" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it? I'll answer

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-15 Thread Warren W. Aney
the more specific disciplines and perspectives into a cohesive and interrelating whole by providing insights on how natural things work together. Warren W. Aney Tigard, Oregon -Original Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-15 Thread Cochran-Stafira, D. Liane
p://faculty.sxu.edu/~cochran/> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of Matt Chew Sent: Mon 11/14/2011 4:41 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it? As of the latest digest I received, this thread had attracte

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-15 Thread Robert Hamilton
LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Baker, David Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:16 AM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it? Hmmm..you can't read our minds without active input to the listserv? I must be too used to working for the Fed. I am following the th

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-15 Thread Astrid Caldas
, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt Chew Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 5:41 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it? As of the latest digest I received, this thread had attracted input from fewer than 0.1% of the list's 12K recipients. Perhaps

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-15 Thread Baker, David
On Behalf Of Matt Chew Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:41 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it? As of the latest digest I received, this thread had attracted input from fewer than 0.1% of the list's 12K recipients. Perhaps there are 12K reasons for remain

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-15 Thread David L. McNeely
Comments inserted below, with much stuff cut out: Matt Chew wrote: > As of the latest digest I received, this thread had attracted input from > fewer than 0.1% of the list's 12K recipients. Perhaps there are 12K > reasons for remaining unengaged but I suspect they are all variations or > c

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-15 Thread Ted Mosquin
Hello Matt & others, In addition to your citations (below) and as far as I am aware, the Manifesto for Earth has been published in two other places, vis: - The Structurist No 43/44. University of Saskatchewan. pp. 5-9 2004 Special Edition entitled "Toward an Ecological Ethos in Art and Arc

[ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-14 Thread Matt Chew
As of the latest digest I received, this thread had attracted input from fewer than 0.1% of the list's 12K recipients. Perhaps there are 12K reasons for remaining unengaged but I suspect they are all variations or combinations of a few basic themes. Rather than debate plausible rationalizations,

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-13 Thread Wayne Tyson
a means of communicating the sum of where a discipline is and is not at any given moment. I look forward to being further inspired by you all. WT - Original Message - From: "Matt Chew" To: Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-13 Thread David L. McNeely
Matt Chew wrote: > Wayne, et al- > > It is simple to ask what ecology is (and isn't) but that doesn't make it > easy to answer. By definition and tradition it's a pretty broad concept. If > you have access, look at the OED entry. If we're trying to pin down what > ecology SHOULD be, well,

[ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-13 Thread Matt Chew
Wayne, et al- It is simple to ask what ecology is (and isn't) but that doesn't make it easy to answer. By definition and tradition it's a pretty broad concept. If you have access, look at the OED entry. If we're trying to pin down what ecology SHOULD be, well, good luck with that. For example, if

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-12 Thread Wayne Tyson
?" I would be most interested in Chew's own thoughts, as well as those of others . . . WT Ecology: What is it and what isn't it? (This should be an easy question, no?) - Original Message - From: "Matt Chew" To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:03 AM Subjec

[ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-10 Thread Matt Chew
Wayne, et al: The manifesto has been cited, e.g., by: Patrick Curry (2006) Ecological Ethics. Cambridge UK: Polity Press. J. Anthony Cassils (2007) Some Reflections on Human Rationality (or the Lack of It) and the Way Ahead. Proceedings of the Canadia Association for the Club of Rome 3(11)19-27

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-10 Thread Alexandre F. Souza
Hi Wayne, It is possible that the manifesto has been caught in between three worlds. In the world of ecology and conservation the article is not citable in most research papers, which deal with very specialized literature. I the world of sociology, which may study the phenomenon of environmental

[ECOLOG-L] Ecology What is it?

2011-11-09 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: A search on-line for "precisely ecocentric" on November 9, 2011 results in precisely THREE hits. ALL three are from ONE paper, "A Manifesto for Earth" ('Biodiversity' Volume 5, No. 1, pages 3 to 9, January/March 2004) http://www.ecospherics.net/pages/EarthManifesto.html . Can