Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those Rare Success Stories

2018-07-17 Thread Daniel S. Cooper
Jason, I'm also 45, with a Master's, and have worked in ecology/conservation for long time. I also decided to re-enroll in grad school last year for a PhD, 20 years after getting that Master's. As perhaps Earth's only Harvard/UC Riverside alum (BA/MSc, resp.), I'll second what Mike Ellis

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those Rare Success Stories

2018-07-16 Thread Bethanne Bruninga-Socolar
It's hard to say that I've made a career out of ecology yet, since I'm only 30, but I'll chime in with my experience in response to Asia's post. TL;DR: You don't have to have a continuous sequence of jobs in ecology/conservation in order to have a career in these fields. There are plenty of jobs

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those Rare Success Stories

2018-07-11 Thread Asia Jones
In June, I graduated from the University of California Davis with a B.S. in Evolution, Ecology, and Biodiversity. I just want to express that even in our own countries, it is hard to find work in conservation, or even ecology in general. No one I know in my major has a job lined up in our field

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those Rare Success Stories

2018-07-10 Thread Jason Hernandez
Malcolm McCallum's reply was certainly thorough. But in response to his initial question, what do you mean by success, I should clarify. In my OP, I referred to unpaid, or even pay-to-play internships and positions in the tropics. What I meant by success, in that context, was: moving on from

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-09 Thread Malcolm McCallum
oo.com> > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 11:32 PM > *To:* ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > *Subject:* [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories... > > Now that the academic year has ended, the big wave of seasonal field jobs > has abated, as have the inevitable posts by graduating stude

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-04 Thread Erik Hoffner
Good to hear advice shared, here's some more via a very recent Mongabay followup to that 2017 Mongabay article folks are citing, ‘Not all doom and gloom’: Q with conservation job market researchers - *Intense competition, a flood of unpaid internships, a prevalence of short-term work, high

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-04 Thread Kristopher Keane
Hello Ecologgers! I know this thread was originally meant for conservation in the tropics, but I think it is indicative of many other areas of biology as well. The main thing I would like to add is that teaching biology is becoming a more viable pathway for many, including myself. And because

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-04 Thread Mike Ellis
Hi all, I also never usually respond to these threads, but I thought I’d chime in since I’m one of the young biologists who “made it” as a tropical ecologist/conservationist and since several people asked for stories. I’ll be 30 next week, and for the past few years I’ve been the Director of

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-03 Thread John Perrine
I'm surprised no one has posted a link to this 2017 article from MongaBay yet (and apologies if someone already has and I missed it): https://news.mongabay.com/2017/08/a-rich-persons-profession-young-conservationists-struggle-to-make-it/ If I have any advice it is: a) do NOT go into debt to

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-01 Thread Stephanie Durkacz
Hi Ecologers, Yikes, I felt a bit down after reading this thread! I usually don’t respond to these but wanted to tell the OP and other students/recent grads in their position to not give up, even though yes, it sometimes is extremely difficult to get that long sought after full time paid job

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-01 Thread SPENCER SCHUBERT
Hello Ecolog-ers This email thread seemed relevant to my own experiences and after skimming through to see some depressing responses sprinkled with some overly dramatic pessimism and discouragement, I thought I would give my own take on this. I'm a 4th year PhD student working on a

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-01 Thread John A.
    Thanks for posting about this, especially from the perspective of someone trying to start out in tropical conservation.     I started out some years ago, before so many NGOs had caught onto the fact that they could get recent graduates to work for free, or even to pay a "fee" to work

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-07-01 Thread Aaron T. Dossey
n Hernandez mailto:jason.hernande...@yahoo.com>> *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 11:32 PM *To:* ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU <mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> *Subject:* [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories... Now that the academic year has ended, the big wave of seas

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-06-30 Thread Zoe Lieb
gt; Meghan >> >> Meghan Bohn >> Animal Keeper, Peoria Zoo >> -- >> *From:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news < >> ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of Jason Hernandez < >> jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> >> *Sent:*

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-06-29 Thread Adam Schultz
cal Society of America: grants, jobs, news < > ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of Jason Hernandez < > jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2018 11:32 PM > *To:* ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > *Subject:* [ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories... > >

[ECOLOG-L] Those rare success stories...

2018-06-29 Thread Jason Hernandez
Now that the academic year has ended, the big wave of seasonal field jobs has abated, as have the inevitable posts by graduating students hoping to find one. And I have to admit, I have gotten a little jaded. I put myself in the shoes of one of those young people... ...Tropical rainforests have