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> Ehrlich
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Backus
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Rob,
That certainly seems to be a
Let's see if we can start a sub-thread that sticks to the science, and see
if we can get somewhere with the facts.
Talk about SCARY!
WT
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. Just a thought...
Steve Young
Weed Ecologist
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
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Greetings Ecologgers,
I'm a masters stude
>
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> ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Backus
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Greetings Ecologgers,
I'm a masters student at Tufts University, and we (my classmates and me)
have recently been discussing just this topic (what are the problems behind
the climate change debate and what are the solutions that we can actually
work on) in class. We had some thoughts (some of whic
Dr. Hamilton,
The problems of global warming are not anything to do with specific heat
but absorption of infrared radiation.
I would suggest watching the Potholer54 Climate Change videos, especially
from the beginning.
Video#1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo
Video#2:
http://www.yout
Susan Pienta wrote:
> If scientists are not receptive to or rigorously examining opposing
> viewpoints, then they failing as their role as scientists. However, that is
> not to say they there are not many viewpoints out there (especially in
> terms of climate change) that are not backed by a
effect
Rob Hamilton
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If scientists are not receptive to or rigorously examining opposing
viewpoints, then they failing as their role as scientists. However, that is
not to say they there are not many viewpoints out there (especially in
terms of climate change) that are not backed by any actual science data.
I think th
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] What Can I DO?? Re: [ECOLOG-L] Message from Paul Ehrlich
> Dear All,
>
> In my humble student opinion, I feel that discussing the causes of global
> climate change is futile. As with most issues of non-point source pollution,
> it seems there wil
ignificant (effective) results.
WT
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:16 AM
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Ehrlich
My understanding of the situation is that water vapor can't
x27;t think it is rational to take the view
> that
> > > one must accept that CO2 causes global warming unless the conjecture is
> > > "proven wrong". You want to promote the proposition that CO2 causes
> > > global warming argument, you "prove it right".
; > overboard on the immediacy and the nature of the consequences. A more
> > open analysis on his part would have been more effective, just as in the
> > present case of CO2 and its effect on the atmosphere.
> >
> >
> > Robert Hamilton, PhD
> > Professor
gt; respiration. I don't know what causes global climate changes, all I
> > know is that the global climate will always change one way or another.
> >
> > Rob Hamilton
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: kerry Cutler [mailto:cutler.ke...
: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of Richard
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Regarding Rachel's comments, there are certainly many examples--both
historica
Of Martin Meiss
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Robert Hamilton,
Your statement implies that we mustn't confuse causes with
effects. Fine, but how do we tell what
hange of public understanding and will.
mcneely
>
> Sincerely,
>
> E.A. Burnett
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> From: "Robert Hamilton"
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I see no evidence that CO2 causes global warming. CO2 levels would rise
om: kerry Cutler [mailto:cutler.ke...@gmail.com]
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> Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
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> Ehrlich
>
> Dear Rob and the rest of Ecolog listserve,
>
> I am
will always change one way or another.
>
> Rob Hamilton
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kerry Cutler [mailto:cutler.ke...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 2:04 PM
> To: Robert Hamilton
> Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
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o good.
> "Religion," like science, is a form of social mores which has been
> perverted by humans, with both rationalization and moral direction changing
> to suit the bias of the moment. Both are imperfect in their expression, and
> both have value worthy of attention.
>
ilton
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From: kerry Cutler [mailto:cutler.ke...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 12/6/2011 2:04 PM
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Dear Rob and the rest of Ecolog listserve,
I am not a cl
capitalized upon, they will be.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:11 AM
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Ehrlich
Hi again all,
This website is one place to start from:
http://www.skepticals
On a lighter note, here's another take on the two sides arguing over
climate change and whether or not it is anthropogenic:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fg%2Fa%2F2011%2F11%2F30%2Fhardscience.DTL
Reminds me of that quote from Karl Marx: "Philosophers have interpreted
the world
IMHO.
>
> Rob Hamilton
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> L. McNeely
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06, 2011 2:11 PM
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Hi again all,
This website is one place to start from:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/how-do-we-know-co2-is-causing-warming.html
They mention some of the main
y:
>> >
>> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1523-1739.2011.01766.x/full
>> >
>> > and this website:
>> > http://www.cbsm.com/pages/guide/fostering-sustainable-behavior/
>> >
>> > and this report from the APA:
>> >
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of David
> L. McNeely
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> Ehrlich
>
to serve politics, it ceases to be real
> science, IMHO.
>
> Rob Hamilton
>
>
> -Original Message-----
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> L. McNeely
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CO2 argument defines us.
>
> Robert Hamilton, PhD
> Professor of Biology
> Alice Lloyd College
> Pippa Passes, KY 41844
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Bowles,
midt Ocean Institute Postdoctoral FellowOcean
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>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 15:33:31 -0500
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Dear all,
The great danger of invoking religion as a tool in conservation and
environmental management is that these holy texts were written at least
1357 years ago (in the case of the Quran) by entirely different
cultures and at a time when there were different constraints on
populations an
twitter.com/#!/NAIPSC
>
>
>
> From:
> Lawren Sack
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> ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
> Date:
> 12/02/2011 09:09 PM
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> [ECOLOG-L] What Can I DO?? Re: [ECOLOG-L] Message from Paul Ehrlich
>
>
>
> Dear Paul and others
>
> I appreciat
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Well, I don't know exactly how to respond to such a claim from a professional
biologist. Could the importance of the coal industry to the endowment of Alice
Lloyd and other economic entities in Ken
e.
>
>
> Sarah Frias-Torres, Ph.D. Schmidt Ocean Institute Postdoctoral FellowOcean
> Research & Conservation Association (ORCA) 1420 Seaway Drive, Fort Pierce,
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my message, and I'm just
>> stating the facts. Always open to dialogue.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Sarah Frias-Torres, Ph.D. *
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Message from Paul Ehrlich
Interesting thinking, adding religion to the mix
One of the major problems explained in Paul Ehrlich's pioneering work is human
overpopulation. As we have reached 7 billion, and still gr
Robert,
I'd love to hear how nearly 200 years of study of what we call the
"greenhouse" effect constitutes "weak hypothethicals" and "political
hackery." Care to share your insight?
Dave
On 12/5/2011 1:00 PM, Robert Hamilton wrote:
Science works to persuade when it provides real data, not w
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>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 15:33:31 -0500
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ierce,
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> Ehrlich
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Science works to persuade when it provides real data
, 2011 12:07 PM
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Social and environmental psychologists have known for some time now that
knowledge does not change *behavior* and that information-only campaigns
rarely are effective. This
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Steve Young wrote:
> Lawren et
Steve Young wrote:
> Lawren et al.,
> Unfortunately, I think you may be preaching to the choir. I'm not trying
> to be pessimistic, but if every ESA member were to follow through and
> commit to the 'doing something', instead of just 'talking more', what
> would that accomplish? Just goin
http://twitter.com/#!/NAIPSC
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Date:
12/02/2011 09:09 PM
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[ECOLOG-L] What Can I DO?? Re: [ECOLOG-L] Message from Paul Ehrlich
Dear Paul and others
I appreciate the sermon, and those movies look really interesting,
and I can't wai
Dear Paul and others
I appreciate the sermon, and those movies look really interesting,
and I can't wait to see them. Still it would be super-wasteful to buy
copies of DVDs and distribute them as Christmas presents. I just read
that more than 30 billion compact discs are sold annually, generat
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