Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-02 Thread Ruth McDowell
A friend who worked closely with Inuit hunters in the Arctic told me that
they eat botfly larvae from under the skin of caribou they have killed.

Ruth



On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Judith S. Weis
jw...@andromeda.rutgers.eduwrote:

 I've never heard of pea crabs being consumed on purpose. It's usually when
 you pop a mussel in your mouth, get a surprise, and go pfah and see the
 little crab on your plate!




  At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex,
  etc.) the question came up of whether there are any parasites
  regularly consumed as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I
  came up with one animal (pea crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn
  smut).  Do you know of others?
 
  David Inouye
 



Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-02 Thread Bruno Ghersi Chavez
In Peru we eat a larvae named Suri. it's the grub or larvae of the palm
weevil Rhynchoporus palmarum. people will fry them. eat  them raw or
harvest their fat to drink (some say it's medicinal...)


Bruno Ghersi


2014-05-01 17:45 GMT-05:00 Ruth McDowell mcdowellr...@gmail.com:

 A friend who worked closely with Inuit hunters in the Arctic told me that
 they eat botfly larvae from under the skin of caribou they have killed.

 Ruth



 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Judith S. Weis
 jw...@andromeda.rutgers.eduwrote:

  I've never heard of pea crabs being consumed on purpose. It's usually
 when
  you pop a mussel in your mouth, get a surprise, and go pfah and see the
  little crab on your plate!
 
 
 
 
   At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex,
   etc.) the question came up of whether there are any parasites
   regularly consumed as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I
   came up with one animal (pea crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn
   smut).  Do you know of others?
  
   David Inouye
  
 



Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-02 Thread Stacey Wurster
I am an enjoyer of Hypomyces lactiflorum-parasitized Cascade Russulas
indeed! It makes this rather bland and innocuous mushroom (its most common
host) much more flavorful and some would say it's necessary to be
palatable!

Such a great discussion!

Stacey
On May 1, 2014 7:55 PM, Cochran-Stafira, D. Liane coch...@sxu.edu wrote:

 Those little livers are most likely liver flukes.  They look surprisingly
 like a small, thin liver.
 Liane

 YUCK - yes I know it's protein, but it's just not within my comfort zone.

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 I heard that some people eat the small livers inside of the deer liver
 (probably the cyst of some parasitic worm...)...

 Iulian
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Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Tiehang Wu
In my mycology class, I mentioned examples of parasitic fungi as food and
medicine, such as succulent stem of *Zizania latifolia* infected by *Yenia
esculenta* (*Ustilago esculenta*); necrotrophic parasites of insect adults,
larvae or pupae by caterpillar fungus (*Cordyceps sinensis*), certainly
including huitlacoche infected by corn smut fungus (*Ustilago maydis*) as
well.


Tiehang Wu


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:08 PM, David Inouye ino...@umd.edu wrote:

 At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex, etc.)
 the question came up of whether there are any parasites regularly consumed
 as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I came up with one animal
 (pea crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn smut).  Do you know of others?

 David Inouye



Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread John A.
    Lobster mushrooms (Hypomyces 
lactifluorum) are fungi which parasitize other fungi, typically gilled 
mushrooms, and they're sometimes considered a delicacy by mushroomers.

    I happen to consider this an 
absolutely bone-stupid thing to do, because the Hypomyces usually 
smothers the host mushroom and makes identification impossible--which 
means anyone who eats one is potentially eating Hypomyces and something deadly 
underneath.  But there are 'shroomers who love their lobsters.


 - John A.


Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Malcolm McCallum
I think there is a dish with hagfish somewhere and/or possibly
lamprey, I saw it on Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre Foods on the travel
channel!!!

Hagfish prep:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Hagfish

On top of the corn smut, many of the mushrooms that are eaten are
actually fungal parasites of trees.  some cause brown heart rot and
some white heart rot.  In fact, some of them are grown specifically on
wood.  And, this depends a lot on if you are interested in all
parasites, or just obligatory parasites.  Many funguses are
opportunistic.

Not sure if these maggots qualify under what you are asking:
http://www.matsecooks.com/?tag=edible-maggots

Where do you draw the line between a herbivous insect and a parasitic one?

an add on Ebay for edible maggots
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50-edible-MAGGOTS-GROSS-OUT-CAKE-DECORATIONS-toppers-CUPCAKES-bbq-SUGARCRAFT-/130665493275

Also, tape worms (Burtiella flanneryi) from the coppery ringtail are eaten..
http://books.google.com/books?id=mfYofzsIzlACpg=PA122lpg=PA122dq=%22edible+parasites%22source=blots=7scvWxQfJQsig=Gguk_0C3Yz3_kz1MsX6yHkuEW1shl=ensa=Xei=jnZiU8WBLI6dyATZ2IGQDAved=0CEEQ6AEwAw#v=onepageq=%22edible%20parasites%22f=false





Then,

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:08 AM, David Inouye ino...@umd.edu wrote:
 At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex, etc.) the
 question came up of whether there are any parasites regularly consumed as
 food (not unintentionally with your food).  I came up with one animal (pea
 crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn smut).  Do you know of others?

 David Inouye



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Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Mitch Cruzan
It depends on whether you view plant fungal endophytes as parasites or 
mutualists - they can be both. I don't know specifically about the 
endophyte load in crop plants, but if it is like others then we eat them 
all the time!


On 5/1/2014 9:08 AM, David Inouye wrote:
At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex, 
etc.) the question came up of whether there are any parasites 
regularly consumed as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I 
came up with one animal (pea crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn 
smut).  Do you know of others?


David Inouye


Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Peter Kotanen
Some mushrooms like Armillariella mellea (honey mushroom).

Traditionally, the Inuit eat caribou warble fly larvae (Hypoderma tarandi)

Cheers - 

Peter.

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On 01-05-2014, at 12:08 , David Inouye wrote:

 At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex, etc.) the 
 question came up of whether there are any parasites regularly consumed as 
 food (not unintentionally with your food).  I came up with one animal (pea 
 crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn smut).  Do you know of others?
 
 David Inouye


Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Schultz, Eric
Lamprey has long been considered a delicacy enjoyed by royalty.  See 
http://www.godecookery.com/nboke/nboke68.html for an old recipe.  Lamprey pie 
is still enjoyed in the UK.

King Henry I reportedly died of overindulgence in lamprey.

Prof. Eric Schultz
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
University of Connecticut
Storrs CT 06269-3043
860.486.4692


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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

I think there is a dish with hagfish somewhere and/or possibly lamprey, I saw 
it on Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre Foods on the travel channel!!!

Hagfish prep:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Hagfish

On top of the corn smut, many of the mushrooms that are eaten are actually 
fungal parasites of trees.  some cause brown heart rot and some white heart 
rot.  In fact, some of them are grown specifically on wood.  And, this depends 
a lot on if you are interested in all parasites, or just obligatory parasites.  
Many funguses are opportunistic.

Not sure if these maggots qualify under what you are asking:
http://www.matsecooks.com/?tag=edible-maggots

Where do you draw the line between a herbivous insect and a parasitic one?

an add on Ebay for edible maggots
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50-edible-MAGGOTS-GROSS-OUT-CAKE-DECORATIONS-toppers-CUPCAKES-bbq-SUGARCRAFT-/130665493275

Also, tape worms (Burtiella flanneryi) from the coppery ringtail are eaten..
http://books.google.com/books?id=mfYofzsIzlACpg=PA122lpg=PA122dq=%22edible+parasites%22source=blots=7scvWxQfJQsig=Gguk_0C3Yz3_kz1MsX6yHkuEW1shl=ensa=Xei=jnZiU8WBLI6dyATZ2IGQDAved=0CEEQ6AEwAw#v=onepageq=%22edible%20parasites%22f=false





Then,

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:08 AM, David Inouye ino...@umd.edu wrote:
 At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex, 
 etc.) the question came up of whether there are any parasites 
 regularly consumed as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I 
 came up with one animal (pea
 crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn smut).  Do you know of others?

 David Inouye



--
Malcolm L. McCallum, PHD, REP
Department of Environmental Studies
University of Illinois at Springfield

Managing Editor,
Herpetological Conservation and Biology

 “Nothing is more priceless and worthy of preservation than the rich array of 
animal life with which our country has been blessed. It is a many-faceted 
treasure, of value to scholars, scientists, and nature lovers alike, and it 
forms a vital part of the heritage we all share as Americans.”
-President Richard Nixon upon signing the Endangered Species Act of
1973 into law.

Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive - Allan 
Nation

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1990's:  Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss,
and pollution.
2000:  Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction
  MAY help restore populations.
2022: Soylent Green is People!

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conscience Knowledge w/o character Commerce w/o morality Science w/o humanity 
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Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Iulian Gherghel
I heard that some people eat the small livers inside of the deer liver
(probably the cyst of some parasitic worm...)...

Iulian
ᐧ


Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Judith S. Weis
I've never heard of pea crabs being consumed on purpose. It's usually when
you pop a mussel in your mouth, get a surprise, and go pfah and see the
little crab on your plate!




 At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex,
 etc.) the question came up of whether there are any parasites
 regularly consumed as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I
 came up with one animal (pea crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn
 smut).  Do you know of others?

 David Inouye



Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Zanatta, David Thomas
Freshwater mussels (Unionoida) parasitic on fish as larvae (glochidia),
are eaten in some parts of the world once they're free-living filter
feeding adults.  They have not commonly been used as food in North America
because they're not especially palatable, because many are threatened
species, and often live in polluted streams, rivers, and lakes.  I have
heard of them being harvested for food and even sold in markets in China,
just watch out for pearls.

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On 5/1/14 12:08 PM, David Inouye ino...@umd.edu wrote:

At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex,
etc.) the question came up of whether there are any parasites
regularly consumed as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I
came up with one animal (pea crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn
smut).  Do you know of others?

David Inouye


Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Gary Grossman
I eat pea crabs on purpose! If there are enough of them when I'm opening
oysters for a feed I'll save them and saute them in butter but sometimes
just pop them in my mouth. But the oysters have to be really fresh, less
than a week after harvesting. I think that I got the idea from Euell
Gibbons book on Stalking the Blue Eyed Scallop, when I was a kid.


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Judith S. Weis jw...@andromeda.rutgers.edu
 wrote:

 I've never heard of pea crabs being consumed on purpose. It's usually when
 you pop a mussel in your mouth, get a surprise, and go pfah and see the
 little crab on your plate!




  At a dinner conversation with Carl Zimmer (author of Parasite Rex,
  etc.) the question came up of whether there are any parasites
  regularly consumed as food (not unintentionally with your food).  I
  came up with one animal (pea crab) and one fungus (huitlacoche; corn
  smut).  Do you know of others?
 
  David Inouye
 




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Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

2014-05-01 Thread Cochran-Stafira, D. Liane
Those little livers are most likely liver flukes.  They look surprisingly like 
a small, thin liver.
Liane  

YUCK - yes I know it's protein, but it's just not within my comfort zone.

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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:19 PM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] edible parasites?

I heard that some people eat the small livers inside of the deer liver 
(probably the cyst of some parasitic worm...)...

Iulian
ᐧ