Thanks Wes and Dominik!
Lets study now!
2018-02-22 12:49 GMT-03:00 Wes Turner :
> https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education
>
> - https://www.codesters.com/curriculum/intro-to-codesters/Bu
> ilding+your+First+Program/1/
> - http://rosalind.info/problems/list-view/
>
>
> https://learnx
Python Evangelist and teaching Python at CS0 in Brazil here o/
My contacts: https://about.me/fmasanori
I write my experiences in a blog post(portuguese):
https://medium.com/@fmasanori/hoje-sou-um-professor-feliz-python-no-ensino-de-programa%C3%A7%C3%A3o-26a92ba73dfb
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> If you were to run such a club, and were to make the resources you use
> freely available, perhaps you should ask the Python Software Foundation
> (http://python.org/psf) for a grant to help cover any costs you may incur.
Please do not forget that “freely available” includes using tools (e.g.
Gi
Hi Otavio,
See my answers below..! :-)
N.
On 21/02/18 18:46, Otavio Silva wrote:
> Dear All,
> I am starting a group of Fathers and Mothers who want to teach their
> kids code, we decided to start wit python. None of us is a professional
> in coding, so we think we will need a lot of help...
> I
https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education
- https://www.codesters.com/curriculum/intro-to-codesters/Bu
ilding+your+First+Program/1/
- http://rosalind.info/problems/list-view/
https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python3/
https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/pt-br/python-pt/
https://github.
Hi,
> 1- Could anyone suggest some literature that we (the fathers) could begin
> with?
“Hello, World!” by Warren and Carter Sande (a father and his son) is a
very good book for both parents and children.
Why not join a local CoderDojo (or create one)?
-nik
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Dear All,
I am starting a group of Fathers and Mothers who want to teach their kids
code, we decided to start wit python. None of us is a professional in
coding, so we think we will need a lot of help...
I have two question for the begining:
1- Could anyone suggest some literature that we (the fath
Hi all
Don't know if anyone on this list has been watching my feed, but I've
made a bunch of updates to "Snake Wrangling For Kids" (partly caused by
converting it to LaTeX). Anyway, the latest version fixes a bunch of
problems I've noticed (such as referring to functions before explaining
wha
Thanks Laura (and everyone else who posted comments). All useful info.
I think I've got enough to go on for the next release I make of the book.
J
Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:09:47 EST, Jay Bloodworth writes:
>
>> On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 19:04 -0600, Michael To
In a message of Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:09:47 EST, Jay Bloodworth writes:
>On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 19:04 -0600, Michael Tobis wrote:
>> I agree that the concept of a "variable" is deeply unpythonic in most c
>ontexts.
>>
>
>But it's pretty darn programmatic. I think overemphasizing python idiom
>and on
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 19:04 -0600, Michael Tobis wrote:
> I agree that the concept of a "variable" is deeply unpythonic in most
> contexts.
>
But it's pretty darn programmatic. I think overemphasizing python idiom
and ontology in a first programming course is a mistake. Variables,
subroutines,
ichard
- Original Message
From: David MacQuigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: edu-sig@python.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:48:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] python for kids...
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A precise explanation of Python variables is in Chapter 4 of Ma
Here is how I would explain Python variables to kids:
'''
In Python, naming variables is like sticking labels on objects. Unlike other
languages, the labels have no type. When we say x is an integer, that's just a
shortcut for saying x is a name that currently refers to or identifies an
intege
I agree that the concept of a "variable" is deeply unpythonic in most contexts.
It is one thing for those of us who have learned our skills on
inferior platforms to retrain our thinking. It is another thing
entirely to foist our own confusions on those learning.
The best introduction to Python ob
On Nov 10, 2007, at Nov 10:5:46 PM, Jason R Briggs wrote:
Anyway, I'm thinking to keep the original discussion about a
variable being a mailbox, and then talk about the Python
distinction (see updated version below)
You can put things (such as a letter or a package) in a mailbox,
just as
read http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2002-April/140258.html
ore read the whole thread.
Then write something like Alex did.
Laura
In a message of Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:46:54 +1300, Jason R Briggs writes:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--===0995048152==
>Con
Hi All
I'm seeking some advice, about a change I'm thinking about making to
Chapter 2 of my book. I've received a bit of criticism lately about my
decision to stick with the simple concept of a variable as a "box to put
things in", rather than explaining the difference in Python (that a
vari
Thanks for the amendments Philip. You're right about the example.
Must've missed testing that one. I've updated my local copy and will
update the site once I have some more changes to make.
phil danaher wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> I have been going through the latest version of your book a
The Mac/Python folks recommend treating the Python that comes
pre-installed as part of the built-in operating system--don't remove
it because things will break, but don't rely on it for your own code.
There are several reasons for this: it's an older version of Python,
it shipped with known bugs, a
Might be your version of OS X. On my wife's iBook (10.3) it definitely
didn't work without additional effort.
Ernesto Costa wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thanks for the nice book. It is really very well written and quite
> usefull for novice programmers.
>
> Just one remark concerning your statement
Hi Jason,
Thanks for the nice book. It is really very well written and quite
usefull for novice programmers.
Just one remark concerning your statement about Python for Mac OS X.
I use MacPython 2.5.1 (http://www.python.org/download/releases/) on
my Mac and there is no problem whatsoever
I forgot to mention that I've had over 200 downloads since announcing
the first release on this mailing list.
So, thanks for the interest, and the various tips and pointers.
J
Jason R Briggs wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've just updated the site with the latest version of SWFK (see here for
> more in
Hi All
I've just updated the site with the latest version of SWFK (see here for
more info: http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/2007/10/28/version-04/)
This adds a ToC, fixes some of the references that weren't valid for
Python2.4, adds while-loops and, as previously discussed, moves some of
the Turtl
sorry for being late... just discovered the Edu-sig list today.
I want to add that Gregor Lindl, the author of the German book "Python
für Kids" has improved the turtle module to a module called "xturtle".
xturtle was presented at the Europython 2006 but sadly come too late to
be included into Py
if OK with you :) Keep up the good work.
>
> cheers
>
> Phiilip
>
> > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:40:33 +1300
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: edu-sig@python.org
> > Subject: [Edu-sig] python for kids...
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I'm hopin
Yes, we (several of us on this list who use the turtle module in
teaching) actually got several changes/enhancements to the turtle module
added for Python 2.5. Earlier versions have a turtle module that is
somewhat harder to work with, in my admittedly biased opinion. ;-)
Cheers,
Vern Ceder
Ja
Hi Ajith
I think the difference is probably Python 2.4 to Python 2.5 (which I was
using). Pen() also works on Py2.5, so I think I'd better change to that.
Will also add while-loops as well. Good idea.
Thanks,
J
Ajith Kumar wrote:
> Hello,
>Thanks Jason. Excellent material. I was lookin
My preliminary assessment is that its good. I'm going to try using it for
one of my Year 9 classes now (they've just started programming Python) and
I'm skipping straight to the chapter on turtle.
My initial comment is that turtle needs to come *even* earlier than you've
edited it to be. My sugges
hi kirby
Any feedback is useful. As long as they're aware up front that it's
written for a younger audience, then I'm happy.
Thanks very much,
J
kirby urner wrote:
> On 10/15/07, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jason.
>>
>> I'm starting a new Python gig at a local high sc
On 10/15/07, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jason.
>
> I'm starting a new Python gig at a local high school soon. If you'd like an
> opportunity
> for feedback from real students in Portland, Oregon, I'd be happy to shoot
> them a
> declassified copy. What's in it for them:
Thanks Jason.
I'm starting a new Python gig at a local high school soon. If you'd like an
opportunity for feedback from real students in Portland, Oregon, I'd be
happy to shoot them a declassified copy. What's in it for them: a new way
to learn Python while thinking critically about what's mayb
Hi all (again)
In response to the various suggestions to move the chapter on graphics
forward, I've split the turtle chapter in half and moved the first part
forward to Chapter 5. Not as early as perhaps it should be, but it's
difficult to justify it appearing earlier in the book (particularly
Dethe-
For a lightweight graphics library on top of Pygame, you should look
at "moonunit" which comes with my MakeBot program
http://stratolab.com/misc/makebot
Alternatively you can look at the subversion source code:
http://svn.stratotools.python-hosting.com/trunk/moonunit/
Che
I've only glanced at the book, but I love the writing style - a huge
problem I have is in finding books appropriate for younger students.
Regular books like Python Programming for Absolute Beginners are
accessible for high schoolers but not younger, in my experience.
I agree with the goals o
Very engaging book, Jason!
I agree that earlier Turtles would be nice.
I also like the idea of using Idle, but your agnostic approach is certainly
a choice. I would encourage saving program files earlier. particularly if
they make neat Turtle designs, it would be nice to save the code! Idle
ma
Awesome. If they come back with comments, make sure you include names
and so on. Cause I'll add a "Thanks to" somewhere at the beginning and
start a list...
J
Richard Guenther wrote:
>
> >PS: and speaking of cover art, let's not forget a snake wrangler
> >might well be a XX (vs an XY)
>
>PS: and speaking of cover art, let's not forget a snake wrangler
>might well be a XX (vs an XY)
Nice point, Kirby.
Jason: Just tonight about 12 of my students in my high school computer
programming club (more than half of them are girls, with minorities being
highly represented*)
Hi Bryan,
I'm not trying to water down Python too much, but I want them to have
a great experience right out of the box. They have both been
programming in Scratch (http://scratch.mit.edu/) now, so their
expectations are that they can get up and running with some graphics
moving around and doing
I did (briefly) consider pyglet and a few other libraries, but in the
end decided to avoid as much 3rd party stuff as possible. My hope
was/is that non-(or not very)-technical parents will be able to get
their kids started with as few downloads as possible.
I know what you mean about moving th
Hi Jan
It looks good (although I can't read German... ;-) Maybe German kids
are more advanced, because I note there's also a PHP and MySQL book for
kids as well. Amazing when I consider I looked on Amazon US/UK (a year
ago) and found nothing that I thought was particularly relevant to
progr
Hi Bryan
I don't think I'm particularly watering things down. Rather taking it
slow and going with the basics. The original idea came from David
Brin's Salon article last year, which decried a lack of ability in
finding a workable version of Basic to teach his son, and argued against
'script
Am 10.10.2007 um 23:40 schrieb Jason R Briggs:
Anyway, the download link can be found on this page:
http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/writing/snake-wrangling-for-kids/
And a bit of background reading as to why I even bothered can be found
here, if at all interested:
http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/cate
On 10/10/07, Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> Good timing. My kids have pushed Scratch about as far as they can go,
> and have been pushing me to teach them Python. I'm working on a
> Scratch-like environment to get them started, but I'll print out your
> draft and test it ou
On Oct 10, 2007 3:35 PM, Andre Roberge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is very much a first reaction after glancing through your book.
>
> I find that, for a first draft done on your own, it looks very
> professional. I like the simple use of colors (green code and red visible
> spaces), and the
> We're using 'web wrangler' instead of 'web master' around here
> some too.
>
PS: and speaking of cover art, let's not forget a snake wrangler
might well be a XX (vs an XY):
http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2005/08/web-wrangler.html
(sometimes "boys" still think CS is their exclusive domain -- we
c
Hey Jason --
Just took a look, already prejudiced to like it by the title and cover.
'Snake Wrangling...' I like that.
We're using 'web wrangler' instead of 'web master' around here
some too.
I'm looking forward to where gems such as yours get used to seed
a version control tree. Talented, perh
Hi Jason,
Good timing. My kids have pushed Scratch about as far as they can go,
and have been pushing me to teach them Python. I'm working on a
Scratch-like environment to get them started, but I'll print out your
draft and test it out on them. Just a warning in advance, my kids (10
year old gi
This is very much a first reaction after glancing through your book.
I find that, for a first draft done on your own, it looks very professional.
I like the simple use of colors (green code and red visible spaces), and the
illustrations are nice.
After this first "reading", I would suggest to mov
Hi All
I'm hoping to get some feedback (flameback?) for a book I've been
working on (on and off for the last year or so), endeavouring to teach
Python to kids (8-12). It's not perfect (by any stretch of the
imagination), since it hasn't had a professional edit -- nor have I
given it the requi
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