Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-30 Thread Kevin Gorman
one via the normal channels, we should look into > alternatives, such as partnering with one or more unis and maybe even find > other sources of funding. > > Leigh > ________ > From: ako...@wikimedia.org > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 05:43:38 -0700 > To: education@l

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-30 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
rg Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked? The librarian in me couldn't resist providing a citation for Pine's and Kevin's and Revi's points. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers#MediaWiki_extensions_deployed_by_WMF This page may not be

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-30 Thread Anna Koval
The librarian in me couldn't resist providing a citation for Pine's and Kevin's and Revi's points. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers#MediaWiki_extensions_deployed_by_WMF This page may not be quite current. Until yesterday, the education program extension was still marked as su

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-30 Thread Pine W
That is a good point, Revi. And this is the kind of mess that makes me discouraged sometimes. But I think that James' involvement will be helpful here, as will a possible migration plan to a maintained tool. (I've noticed a pattern recently of a few people separately deciding that they're not goin

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-30 Thread Yongmin Hong
2015. 9. 30. 오전 3:52에 "Floor Koudijs" 님이 작성: > > > The option that we are currently considering (and I cannot yet guarantee a timeline or anything like that because we're in the middle of the planning phase) is adapting the Wiki Ed Foundation's Dashboard to make it fit for international use. See th

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-29 Thread Pine W
As I understand the situation, it may be that the interim fixes will be sufficient to get this risks patched to a level of security with which Chris feels comfortable with deploying the extension to more wikis and continuing to use it on ENWP while a long-term plan for fixes or system migration is

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-29 Thread James Alexander
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, let me try to help with the tools I have at hand, even if I understand > that that is not the whole picture or the whole solution. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Kevin Gorman wrote: > >> what are apparently serious enough security pro

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-29 Thread Kevin Gorman
Hi all - Although health issues have kept me inactive for most of the last year, I'm disturbed to hear that the response to what are apparently serious enough security problems (enough to call it a 'significant attack vector') is to put in to place a temporary fix that will fix some (but not all)

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-29 Thread Floor Koudijs
Thank you to Shani, Vojtech and Derek indicating your ideas around a long-term solution for the current Education Extension. I could not agree with you more and I am happy that you would like to be involved. My current understanding is that unfortunately our Engineering team does not have the capa

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-29 Thread Derek V. Giroulle - WMBE
Although I understand, i do agree with Shani and Vojtech derek On 29-09-15 10:45, Shani wrote: Thanks, Vojtěch. Resending this with James CCed (for some reason he was ommitted from the thread). Shani. On 29 Sep 2015 11:43, "Vojtěch Dostál" > wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-29 Thread Shani
Thanks, Vojtěch. Resending this with James CCed (for some reason he was ommitted from the thread). Shani. On 29 Sep 2015 11:43, "Vojtěch Dostál" wrote: > I am with Shani on this. After WMF stopped the technical support of the > extension, the old bugs remained unsolved and new [even more dangero

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-29 Thread Vojtěch Dostál
I am with Shani on this. After WMF stopped the technical support of the extension, the old bugs remained unsolved and new [even more dangerous] ones were found. Education programs run in 70 countries worldwide and an increasing number of countries wants to employ the extension to keep track of thei

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread Shani
James, After reading your reply to Craig, it is important for me to make sure that members of the Wiki-EDU community are part of the discussion of exploring other tools. This affects all of our work and some of us have put hours and hours of volunteer work into working with it and developing teac

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Floor, Is there any ETA on when we can expect this remedial work to be completed? Regards, Craig Franklin 2015-09-29 8:09 GMT+10:00 Floor Koudijs : > Dear Filip, > > I am so very sorry to hear about these frustrations with the deployment of > the Education Extension. The problem is that ther

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread James Alexander
Hey Craig, We're hoping to get the stop-gap in place within the week. Longer term... it's difficult to say. It's deep enough that we're not entirely sure we can 'fix' the extension but will look into that in addition to other options and other tools. James Alexander Manager Trust & Safety Wikimed

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread James Alexander
Hey Shani, While I'm loathe to make any explicit "guarantee" that it wouldn't be removed (obviously, in the end, the site safety is most important if it was doing something that was completely damaging then I wouldn't hesitate to remove it) I do not foresee doing that. I also AM willing to guarant

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread Shani
Thanks for your rapid reply and encouraging words, James. While I completely understand the need to keep the site safe, I, as I'm sure others using it (or wanting to use it) appreciate your efforts to insure no running course will be damaged, as well as the possible future deployment to those who

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread Shani
Hi, Filip & Floor. These are very disturbing news. Filip, I can only sympathize.. Floor, / James, can we get any assurances that the ​ Education Extension will not be removed in the middle of the semester? My academic courses at Tel Aviv University, and I'm sure others' who are using the extensio

Re: [Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread Floor Koudijs
Dear Filip, I am so very sorry to hear about these frustrations with the deployment of the Education Extension. The problem is that there have been recent security issues with the extension. Engineering and our Trust & Safety department are working on some stop gaps to allow the extension to remai

[Wikimedia Education] Education extension blocked?

2015-09-28 Thread Filip Maljkovic
Hello everyone, Recently, a security issue has been found with Education extension. As a result, new requests for installing the extension on Wikimedia wikis are being "stalled", i.e. blocked for an indeterminate period. Can someone from the Foundation comment on this? I don't see why we shoul