[Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-28 Thread D Webb

I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP programs 
and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it 
works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on 
same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a 
regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the 
same hardware/software and internet connection.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-28 Thread michel memeteau
Maybe because Skype requires more CPU ? Which hardware power was it ?

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM, D Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP
> programs
> and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it
> works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on
> same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a
> regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly
> the
> same hardware/software and internet connection.
>
> dee
>
> 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-28 Thread D Webb

This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle anything 
Core2Duo 
2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and Ekiga 
2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real choppy on 
a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with other 
VoIP 
software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as regular 
phone, 
and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it a 
number of 
times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but that 
is 
separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound is 
really good, 
despite also having a webcam.

Dee

> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:30:07 +0100
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype
> 
> Maybe because Skype requires more CPU ? Which hardware power was it ?
> 
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM, D Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP
> > programs
> > and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it
> > works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on
> > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a
> > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly
> > the
> > same hardware/software and internet connection.
> >
> > dee
> >
> > 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)

2008-03-28 Thread Paolo
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +, D Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a 
> regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the 
> same hardware/software and internet connection.

remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server.
In skype you've no control on number of connections it makes to other
nodes, nor how much bandwith it takes up; and skype's streams are encrypted,
which means longer drops may occur in case of channel congestion.
Moreover, if all goes 'well', your instance may act as a 'supernode' hence 
taking most of your bw.  In some situations, all the rest been equal, such 
cases may lead to poor performance on the channel you're talking.

There are likely other possible explanations for what you see, these are
just a few points.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-28 Thread Edward Dunagin
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:13 AM, D Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle anything
> Core2Duo
> 2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and Ekiga
> 2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real choppy
> on
> a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with other
> VoIP
> software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as
> regular phone,
> and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it a
> number of
> times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but
> that is
> separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound is
> really good,
> despite also having a webcam.

Hello Dee,

WOW a 56 K modem connection. Ekiga gives me audio fits when video
works and I have a broadband connection.

Peace.ed

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)

2008-03-28 Thread D Webb

> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100
> To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +, D Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a 
> > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly 
> > the 
> > same hardware/software and internet connection.
> 
> remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server.

Hah, didn't know Skype was p2p, I always thought it was also going through 
a server since there is a login. Thanks for your thoughts, as they are 
insightful.

Dee


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)

2008-03-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- D Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100
> > To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +, D Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...
> > > same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a 
> > > regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly 
> > > the 
> > > same hardware/software and internet connection.
> > 
> > remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server.
> 
> Hah, didn't know Skype was p2p, I always thought it was also going through 
> a server since there is a login. Thanks for your thoughts, as they are 
> insightful.
> 
> Dee
> 

Skype can at its own discretion decide to use your connection to route traffic 
of
somebody else.

Ekiga, I think, has adjustable jitter buffer, which sometimes really improves
quality at the expense of latency.

Skype uses pretty wide band codec; Ekiga gives you a choice, so bandwidth can
be better utilized.

Regards,
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