Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] SVN access for x264

2008-03-30 Thread Torsten Schlabach
sean darcy schrieb:
 Just to keep everyone on their toes, x264 has closed the svn repo, and 
 is using git.
 
 Try:
 
 git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264.git
 
 and
 
 git pull --rebase   = svn update
 

For building releases of Ekiga (e.g. 2.0.12 for example), did the x264 
guys migrate the SVN history to git or would there by any downloadable 
tarballs of older versions? What version of x264 does 2.0.12 or the 
recent Gnome branch rely on? Using the above, you'll always get the latest.

For the Debian users among us:

Make sure you install git-core, not git. The package called git in 
Debian Etch is not what you think it is.

Regards,
Torsten
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Re: [Ekiga-list] core dump

2008-03-30 Thread D Webb

  Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params:
  Assertion `err = 0' failed.
  
  [1]+  Aborted (core dumped) ekiga
  
  Any ideas?

So is this your working (formerly working) UbuntuStudio 7.0 and Ekiga 2.0.11?

The assert error is how I ended up on this list. no solution so far, but 
by all accounts it is a bug in alsa-lib that I have reported with ALSa. 
I do not get the core dump so far. Any idea if you get the assert error 
even if Ekiga works fine or if it is directly related to this crash?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 00:01 +, D Webb a écrit :
   proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are
   having problems 
   getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11
   that 
  
  We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga
 has
  always had a good reputation of stability and reliability.
  -- 
  _ Damien Sandras
 
 I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to
 other 
 software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty
 much 
 standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a 
 conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga
 won't 
 work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet 
 to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) 
 or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under
 Windows. 

The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for
it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a
maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it.

As for the Linux version, I do not think I can agree with you about the
numerous instability problems you describe. 

I agree the ALSA problem is annoying and is reported by several people
(that is our number 1 bug). 

The problem is that nobody having the problem can fix it and ALSA
developers do not seem to care about it. The ALSA plugin has been there
several years and was working perfectly until they did some change in
the library and triggered that bug.

Have you tried using the very latest libasound2 version ?
Have you tried debugging the problem ?

 ALSA. There are plenty of people around here who have tried and 
 failed, 
 so it is clear there are problems. I guess I could ask around for 
 specifics

Yes, please ask them to tell us, because we rarely have crash reports
(except for the ALSA thing).
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Re: [Ekiga-list] core dump

2008-03-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le samedi 29 mars 2008 à 18:46 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit :
 The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst.
 
 Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params:
 Assertion `err = 0' failed.
 
 [1]+  Aborted (core dumped) ekiga
 
 Any ideas?

That's the infamous ALSA bug...
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 10:28 +0200, Damien Sandras a écrit :
 Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 00:01 +, D Webb a écrit :
proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are
having problems 
getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11
that 
   
   We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga
  has
   always had a good reputation of stability and reliability.
   -- 
   _ Damien Sandras
  
  I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to
  other 
  software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty
  much 
  standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a 
  conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga
  won't 
  work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet 
  to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) 
  or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under
  Windows. 
 
 The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for
 it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a
 maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it.
 
 As for the Linux version, I do not think I can agree with you about the
 numerous instability problems you describe. 
 
 I agree the ALSA problem is annoying and is reported by several people
 (that is our number 1 bug). 
 
 The problem is that nobody having the problem can fix it and ALSA
 developers do not seem to care about it. The ALSA plugin has been there
 several years and was working perfectly until they did some change in
 the library and triggered that bug.
 
 Have you tried using the very latest libasound2 version ?

Also, does it occur with both sound devices (Default and direct access
to the sound card) ?
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Re: [Ekiga-list] core dump

2008-03-30 Thread yannick

Le samedi 29 mars 2008 à 18:46 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit :
 The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst.
 
 Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params:
 Assertion `err = 0' failed.
 
 [1]+  Aborted (core dumped) ekiga
 
 Any ideas?
 

This bug was fixed in the package alsa-plugins - 1.0.15-1ubuntu3

---
alsa-plugins (1.0.15-1ubuntu3) hardy; urgency=low

  * Backport remaining pcm_pulse.c patches from hg tip (LP: #112948)
that allow Ekiga to work again with PulseAudio
- debian/patches/pulse-{minmax,assert}.diff

see:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/112948

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread D Webb

  The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for
 it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a
 maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it.

Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on 
Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are 
not that many people using Linux.

What is required to be a maintainer?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread Edward Dunagin
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for
  it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a
  maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it.

 Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on
 Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are
 not that many people using Linux.

 What is required to be a maintainer?


I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried  to
bring up Ekiga again and it crashes.
 I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few
days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio
upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and
downgrade those two programs.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 12:14 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit :
 On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for
   it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a
   maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it.
 
  Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on
  Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are
  not that many people using Linux.
 
  What is required to be a maintainer?
 
 
 I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried  to
 bring up Ekiga again and it crashes.
  I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few
 days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio
 upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and
 downgrade those two programs.

You could also try to isolate the problem and fix it, either in Ekiga or
in Pulseaudio.
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[Ekiga-list] eeepc

2008-03-30 Thread len
Also try changing the audio device :
- Default for input and output
- Direct sound card access for input and output
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+++

I tried the above but it made no difference. 
I have also installed the basic Xlite for linux and it works with a crackle 
behind the transmission (but it will do for now!). 
It's a shame because I like Ekiga especially the multiple sip function, I use 
one for incoming and one for outgoing. I will keep an eye open for updates 
(please!).





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Re: [Ekiga-list] eeepc

2008-03-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 19:10 +, len a écrit :
 Also try changing the audio device :
 - Default for input and output
 - Direct sound card access for input and output
 -- 
  _ Damien Sandras
 
 +++
 
 I tried the above but it made no difference. 
 I have also installed the basic Xlite for linux and it works with a crackle 
 behind the transmission (but it will do for now!). 
 It's a shame because I like Ekiga especially the multiple sip function, I use 
 one for incoming and one for outgoing. I will keep an eye open for updates 
 (please!).

Unfortunately, I do not think the problem is at our level...
Have you tried contacting eeepc developers? They could have a look (or
send one to us so we can fix it).

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread Edward Dunagin
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 12:14 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit :

  On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer 
 for
 it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a
 maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it.
   
Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked 
 on
Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are
not that many people using Linux.
   
What is required to be a maintainer?
   
  
   I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried  to
   bring up Ekiga again and it crashes.
I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few
   days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio
   upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and
   downgrade those two programs.

  You could also try to isolate the problem and fix it, either in Ekiga or
  in Pulseaudio.

I removed pulseaudio from my system and now Ekiga is ok. Tested it
with 500 and audio and videoare fine. I have not tested it with a live
user.

Peace...ed


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread yannick

Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 13:53 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit :
 I removed pulseaudio from my system and now Ekiga is ok. Tested it
 with 500 and audio and videoare fine. I have not tested it with a live
 user.

I'm almost sure the problem is this:
http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601
http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/23
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/112948

Regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 13:53 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit :
 On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Le dimanche 30 mars 2008 à 12:14 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit :
 
   On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer 
  for
  it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a
  maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop 
  it.

 Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it 
  worked on
 Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just 
  are
 not that many people using Linux.

 What is required to be a maintainer?

   
I must unfortunately report that after I offered Dee help, I tried  to
bring up Ekiga again and it crashes.
 I do remember doing an apt-get update and upgrade in the last few
days and ,(again) if I remember there was an ALSA and PulseAudio
upgrade. I think this is my problem and I am going to try and
downgrade those two programs.
 
   You could also try to isolate the problem and fix it, either in Ekiga or
   in Pulseaudio.
 
 I removed pulseaudio from my system and now Ekiga is ok. Tested it
 with 500 and audio and videoare fine. I have not tested it with a live
 user.

I have read that bug in their bugtracker and it seems that pulseaudio
guys fixed the problem.

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