Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued
Hi, Le jeudi 06 décembre 2018 à 22:55 +0100, Gerhard Pircher a écrit : > Am 2018-12-01 um 18:35 schrieb Damien Sandras: > > Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken > > thedecision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > Thank you for your support during all those years. > > It has been a pleasure! > I just wanted to say thank you for keeping the ekiga.net service > upand running all those years! Thank you for the nice words! Best regards, -- Damien Sandras ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018, A Human via ekiga-list wrote: how can i unsubscribe from this list pls Use the link at the bottom. I'm copying it here: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Stuart D. Gathman "Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song for a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued
Hi Bret, Thank you for your email and support. You are absolutely right... Actually, Ekiga, the software, is not discontinued. Ekiga.net, the SIP platform that goes with it, will be shutting down by the end of the year. However, actually, the state of the software is not better. I have actively maintained ekiga during more or less 12 to 13 years. A new version is nearly ready (without instant messaging support anymore, and without STUN/NAT support). A few years ago, I asked for help to finish it. It was a call to developers, but nobody answered. Having to maintain the software, the SIP platform, the websites, the manuals, the documentation for that new release alone is simply not possible. It would be if I was unemployed. But in that case, the "free" as "free beer" aspect of Open Source would be annoying for me :-) So well, if developers want to keep working on the Ekiga software, they are welcome. The code is in GNOME's git, available for everyone! Le dimanche 02 décembre 2018 à 06:15 +0800, Bret Busby via ekiga-list a écrit : > On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras wrote: > > Hi all, > > Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken > > thedecision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > Thank you for your support during all those years. > > It has been a pleasure!-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Damien SANDRAS > > > > > > Ekiga Project > > http://www.ekiga.org > > > > > > > > > > Hello. > I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open > source,rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would > not bemore appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of > opensource,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the > sake ofits continuance. > More and more good Linux software, has been > abandoned/discontinued,and, with MS apparently determined to > progressively eliminate skype(MS has been p[rogressively hobbling > skype, since MS bought it out), adeveloping technology in IT - the > means od making video calls, amongstother uses, is being eliminated. > It is a bit like, if Alexander Bellhad decided that he had had enough > of trying to develop telephony, andsaid "Stuff it - I've had enough - > I am going to put it all into boxesand bury it.", rather than passing > it on to others to continue thedevelopment. > Imagine what the world would be like, if we had not had > telephony.Imagine what the wotld could be like, if we would have > video calls andvideoconferencing, as commonplace, as telephony has > been. > Here in Australia, members of the federal parliament, fly thousands > ofkilometres, to sit in the parliament (when they can be > botheredturning up for "work" - the federal parliament is apparently > scheduledto meet, for only ten days, in the next eight months, while > itsmembers hibernate (and, hide from each other) ), and, whilst > theAustralian federal partliament does not want to progress from > thestone age, if its members used virtual attendance, > throughvideoconferencing, it could save the country a fortune, and, > show thatAustralia is not really such a stupid and backward country, > that itappears to be (we have a federal government, that is obsessed > withburning as much cpoall as possible, as it is worried about > theincreasing chill in the air). > So, while MS is doing as much as it can, to obstruct > communications,with its progressive hobbling of skype, if Ekiga could > be turned intoa community project, and, thence, continue to be > developed andmaintained, instead of being abandoned, like so much > other Linuxsoftware, we could have hope, that communications > technology willcontinue to advance, instead of being abandoned and > left in unusablepieces on the side of the road.. > So, rather than simply abandoning Ekiga, I ask whether it could > beoffered as a community project, so as to provide for its > continueddevelopment, maintenance, and, support, rather than simply > abandoningit. -- Damien SANDRAS Ekiga Project http://www.ekiga.org ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued
how can i unsubscribe from this list pls Le sam. 1 déc. 2018 à 20:45, Stuart D. Gathman a écrit : > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote: > > > On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras wrote: > >> Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the > >> decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > > I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open source, > > rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would not be > > more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of open > > source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the sake of > > its continuance. > > Ekiga.net is not needed for peer to peer calls. It is only to help > out unfortunate souls still in IP4 NAT jail because they haven't learned > how to join the IP6 world. ISPs will never offer IP6. You have to > peer with friends and/or sign up with a general tunnel broker like > he.net. > > There are other sites offering free IP4 SIP call brokering (generally > charging for POTS connections to make their money). > > I moved to Linphone (another open source SIP client) because it > supported IPv6. Peer to peer SIP really requires IPv6. > > The Cjdns IPv6 mesh VPN allows authenticated, encrypted peer to peer calls > anywhere in the world without any exchange of certs, etc, and a device > keeps its IP as it moves around. The IPv6 is a hash of the public key > of the node. > > Even without a VPN, IPv6 allows direct peer to peer without needing > a public IP4 or a centralized site to help with all the NAT workarounds. > > Ekiga does a number of things better than linphone (e.g. addressbook). > But the lack of IPv6 was a deal killer. There were efforts to > add IPv6 support to ekiga, but never finished that I was aware of. > Actually, IPv6 support in Linphone is a pain - it can't listen on > IP4 (for commercial SIP to POTS services) and IP6 simultaneously. > You have to switch back and forth in preferences. Ekiga could do it so > much better. > > -- > Stuart D. Gathman > "Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song for > a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial. > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued
Thanks for all the work you put in over the years Damien - sometimes it is best to allow the world to move on without us. There is a tide in the affairs of man - and all that Shakespeare stuff. Sad to see it go - but you can only do so much. Thanks again David Bedtime Stories (4 - 8 years) http://www.everopenstorybook.com Nature https://www.ja2da.com Random Thoughts https://medium.com/@ford.davidj/latest On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 17:36, Damien Sandras wrote: > Hi all, > > Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the > decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. > > Thank you for your support during all those years. > > It has been a pleasure! > > -- > > Damien SANDRAS > > *Ekiga Project* > http://www.ekiga.org > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Ekiga.net discontinued
Hi all, Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year. Thank you for your support during all those years. It has been a pleasure! -- Damien SANDRAS Ekiga Project http://www.ekiga.org ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
