Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Peter Connors, F5VNB
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Absolutely not! When conventional rigs are generating ALC their final amplifiers are ALREADY in compression and they are generating IMD in the PSK31 signal. A bit sweeping, Joe. Surely any sane engineer would put the onset of system ALC at a level *before* the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread hb9ari
Hello, I'm not a specialist, but this very interesting discussion remember some points during my past professional activity. I was employed in a society involved in the design and fabrication of RF link for broadcast TV cameras. ( My job was limited to camera remote control via separate UHF

[Elecraft] K3 For Sale in DL

2009-01-17 Thread Franz Hegener
Hi all, i will sell my K3 #1024. The following is installed: K3 100 Watt with the following components: Perhaps someone from Germany is interested to get a 3 month old K3 for 2300,- Euros plus shipping costs. Contacts via mail to: dg1...@franz-hegener.de Tel. 02971 87028 K3/100-F

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread hb9ari
Peter, I don't read your message before sending my very long mine but i totally agree with you! I can imagine that digimodes software generate ± complex audio signals, then we can adjust this audio level to allow TX chain, including PA, to work in a linear zone. (I admit that we should be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Pete F5VNB wrote: Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Absolutely not! When conventional rigs are generating ALC their final amplifiers are ALREADY in compression and they are generating IMD in the PSK31 signal. A bit sweeping, Joe. Surely any sane engineer would put the onset of system ALC at a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Peter Connors, F5VNB wrote: Absolutely not! When conventional rigs are generating ALC their final amplifiers are ALREADY in compression and they are generating IMD in the PSK31 signal. A bit sweeping, Joe. Surely any sane engineer would put the onset of system ALC at a level *before* the PA

[Elecraft] Jan 17th PBMME Outing

2009-01-17 Thread Ron Polityka
Hello, On Jan 17, 2009 there will be a few hardy Polar Bear souls venturing outdoors in the bitter cold to operate their QRP radios. This could be considered as a warm up to the FYBO contest. Please check out http://www.n3epa.org/Pages/PolarBear.htm for a complete of legal Polar Bears.

[Elecraft] RES: K3 For Sale in DL

2009-01-17 Thread py5eg
Hi Are you not satisfied with the radio? Oms PY5EG De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Em nome de Franz Hegener Enviada em: Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:55 AM Para: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Assunto: [Elecraft] K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 build: seeking advice re: KRX4 and DVR

2009-01-17 Thread Bill W4ZV
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: Do you suggest that the base K3 be completed first and then the subRX be installed, or should I do it all at once? Maybe the official K3 advice is in the box. Yes it's basically in the box but I agree with Al's excellent summary that the manual should be

Re: [Elecraft] Desktop microfone for the K3

2009-01-17 Thread NZ0T
I've tried an MC-50 with my K3 but the output is very low compared to my MH-2 hand mike. Even with the mic gain up all the way it won't fully move the ALC to max. Not sure why. Terry Schieler wrote: What about the Kenwood microphones, like the MC-60 or MC-80? Werner, I'm using a

Re: [Elecraft] Desktop microfone for the K3

2009-01-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
The MC-50 at the 600 ohm setting is speced for -76 dBm output, while the MH2 is in the range of -45 to -55 dBm - that means you will need 20 to 30 dB more mic gain with the MC-50 than with the MH2. All microphones are not created equal, and do not have similar output levels. You should be able

Re: [Elecraft] Desktop microfone for the K3

2009-01-17 Thread Bill Maddock
I use a Kenwood MC60 with Mike gain at 10 with no problem! 73 de Bill N4ZI K3 sn #1059 --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Desktop microfone for the K3 To: NZ0T n...@cox.net Cc:

[Elecraft] N1MM Logger support of K3

2009-01-17 Thread Barry N1EU
Version 8.12.9 of N1MM Logger has just been released and is available at http://pages.cthome.net/n1mm/ With this latest version, N1MM Logger now incorporates full support of both K3 vfo's and receivers thanks to the programming efforts of K3CT and the engineering efforts (CAT enhancements) of our

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Ian White GM3SEK wrote: A sane engineer surely would; but the huge majority of transceivers are trying to use the ALC loop for too many different functions including gain levelling between bands, peak limiting and also power control. [snip] I seem to have read this before -

Re: [Elecraft] Mic Gain Changing

2009-01-17 Thread Julian, G4ILO
list1 wrote: Hi Bob and All, I got home and did USB NCS duties tonite on MARS so I have a little more information. It seems that when I first start transmitting even at a MIC gain of 25, I only initially get about 30 to 60 Watts of power out. If the Mic gain is 15 it is more like 35

[Elecraft] Audio lost in SUB RX after mods

2009-01-17 Thread Björn Mohr
Hi gang, Coming home after the JW trip I thought it was a good time to do the Elecraft recommended mods. After doing the mods, I lost the audio in my SUB RX. It didn't happen right away, but after a few hours use. The mods I did was; - K3 AF OutPut Mod - K3 AF OutPut Mod - Improving the

[Elecraft] K2: KPA/100 Manual Question

2009-01-17 Thread Jferg977
The manual refers to C12- C22 etc as ,01uF (103) 5% 50V mono capacitors. The ones supplied in the kit are labeled (DELTA sign) 103k and X7R50. Doesn't the K suggest that these are actually 10% capacitors. in this context, what does MONO mean? Or am I missing something here? 73,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 build: seeking advice re: KRX4 and DVR

2009-01-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The manual does include the KDVR3. See errata F2, item 3, available on the Elecraft WEB site here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Assembly_Manual_Errata_Rev_F-2.pdf The instructions for installing the KRX3 as part of the basic build were incorporated in the current manual (Ref F) last

[Elecraft] KTCX03 Later?

2009-01-17 Thread Brian Alsop
Guys, Has anybody installed the high stability oscillator after the subrx was in place? It appears that one may simply be able to unplug the old and plug in the new. 73 de Brian/K3KO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You

Re: [Elecraft] KTCX03 Later?

2009-01-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes. It's easy to reach even with the KRX3 module in place by unplugging the TMP cables on the KREF3 board. Just be sure to put the TMP cables back correctly as shown in the manual. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

[Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Kenneth A. Christiansen
+If the filter response varies across the passband, which it does, the ALC +will vary the amount of gain used to try to keep the RF level to the amount +it is set at, whether the signal is being generated near the edge of the +passband or at the center. This is important to the PSK31 operator who

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Peter, Surely any sane engineer would put the onset of system ALC at a level *before* the PA goes into compression? Not necessarily. Some incidental compression in the final amplifier is not necessarily a bad thing for CW or SSB systems. If the ALC is derived from something like grid

[Elecraft] ProCat Cool for Windows V6 General release!

2009-01-17 Thread Don Rasmussen
General release January 16, 2009: http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Procat_Cool_for_Windows And page down to bottom. 73, Don. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 17, 2009, at 1/173:00 AM, hb9ari wrote: I can imagine that digimodes software generate ± complex audio signals, then we can adjust this audio level to allow TX chain, including PA, to work in a linear zone. Out of the common HF digital modes, I believe that BPSK31 and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I think Joe may be thinking of how older radios used to work, where the power control varied the gain of the TX stages and ALC did only start to operate once the rated output of 100W or whatever had been reached. Older (tube) radios did not have power level controls. They were operated

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Peter Connors, F5VNB
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: If you want to be able to click to tune without manually adjusting power levels get a Flex-5000 or a transmitter that uses on frequency RF generation. Would a possible solution be 'split' operation using VFOA to 'read' an ssb passband via the sound card while

[Elecraft] Reminder - UK Elecraft net Sundays 1000 local, 3630 KHz

2009-01-17 Thread Dave G4AON
The frequency is plus or minus the QRM. Note the start time of 1000 hours to try and minimise European QRM. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100, Acom 1000, dipole ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Julian, G4ILO wrote: I seem to have read this before - perhaps in one of your RadCom columns? Yes; the first discussions were here, sometime around March 2008. Then you saw it again in my May 2008 column in Radcom, although that article was specifically about the deficiencies of normal

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Plots

2009-01-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Note: when using Mike's software, AUTOINF must be set to NOR. Anyone who normally has AUTOINF=1 (e.g. for a SteppIR antenna) will need to manually reset it before using the software in order to get usable data. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Older (tube) radios did not have power level controls. They were operated at their design power and ALC reduced the gain to prevent overdriving the final amplifiers. This is true. I used to run PSK31 with a Kenwood TS-520. No power control on that rig and the

[Elecraft] K2 com1 setup with HRD DM780

2009-01-17 Thread Nancy and Bob Widmaier
I have been unable to send CW with my K2/100, HRD and DM-780. I get a COM1 port not available error message. I have tested the COM1 port and it passes the diagnostics and works with other programs (e.g. K2 Remote). I do not run K2 Remote with DM-780. I selected none on the RTS and CTS

Re: [Elecraft] K3 For Sale in VK5

2009-01-17 Thread VK5ABQ
I should've listed the power supply as a 10A continuous and 12A peak sorry. Lack of nibbles, maybe my price is too high? This K3 is literally AS NEW but I suppose considering the many alternative configurations of the K3, this could make selling one used tricky unless it is sold at a heavily

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2009-01-17 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening, The last few days have been very, very nice. The temperature rose to 65 degrees yesterday and there has been full sun. The only way I know it is January is to view the sun angle. Very strange for this time of year. I am using this time to get ready for what I know must