Also, you can move the "peak" left/right by rotating the SHIFT knob. You will
see APF setting appear in the VFO B area and the ref point is denoted by an "*"
next to 45.
Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:27 AM, David Kuechenmeister wrote:
>
>
The receiver has to be tuned precisely to the signal in question for APF to
work.
73, Barry N1EU
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:53 AM, David Kuechenmeister
wrote:
> I tried this the other day with no success. That is, the weak signal that
> was barely detectable, became so buried
one must also discover the
artful use of the RF Gain control as well
Adjustment of the RF gain control is not mentioned in Wayne's note on
using APF.
When I tried it here, the RF gain might have made some small
difference but it still did not allow un-copyable signals to be
copied. When
Thank, all. I may have to look into that. It may just involve changing out
some runs of the cable. I used either CAT5 or CAT5e in all my runs. Just
odd that the noise is coming from the one location and not the others,
though. Ah well!
-john NE4U
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:15 AM, David Ahrendts
I went from a TenTec Orion to my K3 ( whose box I opened almost the very day
the K3S was announced which is total BS) and I really mis the SAF feature in
the Orion. The APF in my K3 doesn't touch it.
W5SUM
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> On Feb 5, 2016, at 09:56, dave wrote:
My widest filter is 2.8MHz [the optional, 8-pole ssb filter]. Is the
technique that Wayne is describing not applicable in my situation?
...robert
On 02/04/2016 3:03 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Hi all,
If you have...
- really ugly noise sources that neither of the K3/K3S noise blankers
While I find the APF works really nice, one must also discover the
artful use of the RF Gain control as well. Most hams seem to use
excessive RF Gain which will force noise through the filter and all of
those undesirable artifacts will be heard. If in doubt, reduce the RF Gain.
Using this
On Fri,2/5/2016 5:06 AM, w7aqk wrote:
I don't know what the precise definition for "balanced" will end up
being (assuming we end up with a consensus),
The laws of physics are not determined by consensus. I am citing the
definition upon which IEC and AES Standards are based, which are
I actually noticed the same thing too...the only difference was that I was
transmitting Contestia 4/250.
Jeff - kg7hdz
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 08:36, Jim Rodenkirch wrote:
>
> Hey, guess what I found out.I saw the same thing while operating JT9/65.
>
> BUT, every
The technique I'm using with the APF also involves NR like so:
On an uncrowded band, set the DSP BW to 700 to 1000 Hz. If you have a roofing
filter in that range stay within it.
Turn on NR set to mF5-3 or there about. The wide BW helps the NR work well. The
"mix" mode lets a little
I tried this the other day with no success. That is, the weak signal that was
barely detectable, became so buried in ringing that I couldn't detect it at
all. I think I followed the procedure outlined in Wayne's email below...
Noise was around S5 on 40m and the K3 was configured with APF active.
Correct on all points.
On 2/5/2016 6:06 AM, w7aqk wrote:
Jim B. and All,
I don't know what the precise definition for "balanced" will end up being
(assuming we end up with a consensus), but In Jim B's critique about what was
said, I think he cut and pasted so as to erroneously attribute
I'd agree. My experience with APF is that it will indeed pop a signal
that is already copyable, if a bit weak, out of the noise. Makes for
easier copy. However the ringing is so bad on a really weak signal
that it is of no help. I guess it depends on what you view as 'weak'
and your noise
Hey, guess what I found out.I saw the same thing while operating JT9/65.
BUT, every time I rotated the pwr control knob, the ALC was exactly where I
had adjusted it to, SO, I experimented a little and varied
the pwr out prior to transmitting.guess what The power level
Thanks. I'll try again and be very careful this time.
vy 73,Dave N4KD
On Friday, February 5, 2016 10:08 AM, Barry N1EU
wrote:
The receiver has to be tuned precisely to the signal in question for APF to
work.
73, Barry N1EU
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:53 AM, David
Thanks Wayne, the software blanking improvement on CW using FL1 13kHz filter
set to 400Hz is remarkable because not only does it suppress strong electric
fence pulses here for the first time in years but also cleans up the NB
function when FL1 is enabled. I used the 13kHz filter because it was
I've seen it written that it helps to offset the IF slightly, although to
be honest I have never myself got the APF to work to my satisfaction.
Oddly, and I communicated with Wayne about this at the time, the first beta
(I think) implementation of it was stunning, but a later release lost it
for
That answered a question I took off list, will my 12 KHz filter work,
looks like I will be testing this...
--
73's, and thanks,
Dave
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Hi Wayne,
On list report as you asked for...
Set up as described, only using a 13KHz filter in F1 position...
Using a florescent light, which makes a rather ugly wide band noise,
only on 18 MHz., I performed a sort of blind test
After doing the full setup as you described on a very
One of K9YC's suggestions I took was to eliminate all unintentional cat 5
"antennas" in favor or wireless usb dongles.
I went with linsys AE1200s which were on sale cheap from an Amazon partner.
My only regret is that linksys, oddly,
does not have linux drivers for this dongle. If you don't plan
Lightning has dramatic effect on the AGC system of many to most
receivers. Rob Sherwood has had a lot to say about this. Elecraft has
taken steps to minimize the effect.
Yes different types of noise clearly have different characteristics and
thus the reason for suggesting reducing the RF
DJ0IP must be one of, if not the post prolific testers of baluns and chokes
*attached to aerials* ever. He does not measure them in the lab. His
measurements are practical and done with rigour using modest equipment. He has
done thousands of measurements for common mode current, only a fraction
2.8 kHz should give some improvement over a narrow filter on some types of
noise. Worth a try. Just temporarily tell the firmware that it's a little bit
wider than your narrow filter, then use the WIDTH control to switch between
narrow and wide. Re-optimize the NB settings each time.
Wayne
In the last month of listening to really weak signals here in 9 land I've
found it helpful but not radical.
Just for fun I tried tuning some of the same VP8SGI signals on a Drake
2B/2BQ and found adding the 2BQ in the mix more user friendly and making a
bigger difference, but hey, the 2B
I suspect that when the K3 APF was first engineered, the Yaesu FT-1000D APF
(original hi-Q version) was used as the model because many prominent
dx'ers/topbanders always raved about it.
73, Barry N1EU
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Scott via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
> In
meant to type, "...looks to me like the set power when you start
transmitting in JY9/65 and, if you touch the pwr control knob after you
start transmitting, the KX3 switches into a "display your ALC
setting.just sayin'
--
View this message in context:
After uploading the new firmware to my SN#01741 KX-3 yesterday, I tried to
crank the power up to 15 watts on the dial, and found that 12 watts was as
high as it would display on 40 meters. The unit was being powered by Pro
Audio Engineering PAE-Kx33. Anyone else have this problem?
Don, KI4D
I love my K3, nothing wrong with it in the
least and it works exactly as I expect it
to. It is fully loaded except for the 2M
option.
I have decided to buy a K3s, just because
I like what Elecraft does and the K3s is
their new page.
So the decision I have to wrangle with is
what to leave
Elecraft will be attend the following two shows in February.
If you are in either area and would like to help out in the booth
anytime over the weekend just let me know.
Any amount of time you are able to offer ( especially on Friday and
Saturday) is welcome.
You can reply to
Stephen is correct.
Several of us lobbied for an APF feature shortly after the K3 debuted in
2007, drawing on our experiences with the FT-1000D. There /were/ two
firmware versions that Wayne developed, and the consensus among some of
us was that the first one was better than the second. As I
John,
You changed power supplies.
You changed cables.
You changed
No telling what "fixed" the issue.
Jim
W6AIM
-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David
Ahrendts
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 5:16 AM
To:
John,
I had a similar situation here with a LinkSys switch. Tried a NetGear switch
and the birdies moved - but were still present. Solved the problem by moving
all networked devices from cat5 10 mb to cat6 1000t gigabit ethernet.
-larry (K8UT)
-Original Message-
From: John Shadle
To expand on Rich's comment:
The comments thus far focus in the benefit of receiving two frequencies
simultaneously. Another benefit for digital modes is being able to receive
THE SAME signal (frequency) but through two antennas with two receivers, two
digital programs (can be the same
That was my first thought - so I laid out a new coax to the antenna.
That said, this morning everything works just fine. I can only figure
the KAT500 heard me say that it was leaving and it decided to work. Be
interesting to see how long this holds.
Bill W2BLC
Hi,
J, VY1JA, is reporting that we have a transmit spike on our K3s which is
driving the
Alpha 9500 Grid current to excessive levels when initially transmitting.
This is with the drive set to about 10w.
I know there were problems a long time ago (circa 2009) with K3 power
spikes, but I thought
I've followed the directions in Fred Cady's book and the steps in the fldigi
manual for setting receive and transmit levels. (Use the 'tune' button in
fldigi, adjust computer output to 4 bars on ALC meter, keep mic setting where
I use for voice - 5) and all seems ok to this point. When I go to
> If you have one for sale please send details direct to n...@woh.rr.com
> Will pay by PayPal.
> Thanks
> Tim
> NZ8J
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Jim B. and All,
I don't know what the precise definition for "balanced" will end up being
(assuming we end up with a consensus), but In Jim B's critique about what
was said, I think he cut and pasted so as to erroneously attribute comments
made by Don, W3FPR, as being made by Wes N7WS. It's
If changing the cabling was the solution for your "birdies" then it
would appear the issue was not with the switch hardware, but with poorly
constructed cables.
There are a LOT of CAT-5 and CAT-5e labels on cables out there that
simply aren't. There's a list of specs involved, fairly lengthy
John, I’ll concur with Larry. I have several D-Link gigabit switches using CAT6
cable with no apparent noise, and I believe their “green” technology actually
shuts off unused ports when not in use. Amazon.
David A., KK6DA, LA
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Larry Gauthier (K8UT)
Hello John!
The components used are shown in the KX3 schematics available on the
Elecraft website. You can get whatever specifications your are
interested in about those components from the manufacturer's data
sheets. The sampling rate currently being used, subject (but unlikely)
to change
Wes's point is that twin feeder is not automatically "balanced" - very far
from it! Twin feeder happily supports both differential (equal and opposite,
balanced) currents and common-mode current at the same time.
So, in the real world, there is no such thing as "balanced" feedline unless
YOU
Jeff,
Connect a dummy load rather than the antenna and try it at 10 watts. If
the problem is not present, you can blame it on RF-in-the-shack being
picked up by the audio input or your computer.
If you do have an RF problem, the cure is in the antenna field. Better
common mode chokes to keep
Will do. Thanks Don.
Jeff kg7hdz
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 7:25 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> Connect a dummy load rather than the antenna and try it at 10 watts. If the
> problem is not present, you can blame it on RF-in-the-shack being picked up
> by the audio
I followed my interpretation of Wayne's instructions when trying
to copy VP8SGI on 80M. I have an inverted V antenna with the
peak at about 12 meters (44').
When I started, I could barely hear him. When I got the APF
tuned in, I could hear him clearly, and actually managed to work
him with
I'm glad that noise solutions are being investigated. I think advances
in NR/NB would be of more importance to many hams than close-in dynamic
range, however useful the improvement in those attention-getting figures
are. On a day to day basis noise is the top culprit for many of us.
73,
Drew
Agreed. I thought I made that point clear. And it's not just common-mode
currents. It all depends upon the load. A "dipole" antenna, for example, is
seldom exactly the same distance from surrounding objects on each half,
which will "unbalance" the load and so unbalance the currents on the feed
Maxwells' famous equations first published in the 1870's have proven to be
extraordinarily accurate for all practical engineering purposes even after
all of these years:
http://www.aproged.pt/biblioteca/MaxwellII.pdf
73, Ron AC7AC
-Original Message-
It may come as a shock to some,
Gee, Wes. It's only basic RF engineering.
If you'd care to be specific about any objection, please do so. I'll be glad
to get into details on or off the reflector.
73, Ron AC7AC
-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes
(N7WS)
Sent:
Wayne,
Second report using Horticultural lights as noise source.
Each evening 40 lights up with grow lights, and the results with them
are much different than the previous results, the grow lights are cut
back to the point I can hear additional stations, but only if I use
headphones...
Did the
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