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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions
So, a question...
With the dual levers of a single lever (non-iambic) SP2 paddle, when you press
one paddle, does the opposite paddle move in concert
Phil,
On the SP1/2, there is only one lever, and both finger pieces are
attached to it. The lever and the two finger pieces move as one.
73,
Randy, KS4L
On 6/26/2012 12:12 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
So, a question...
With the dual levers of a single lever (non-iambic) SP2 paddle, when you
I've had a lot of keys in my 48 years of hamming - and I've kept them all
(they are on display in my living room!). For portable use, I've used a
Palm Paddle for several years. Very nice, light, inexpensive and works very
well. I just replaced it with a Begali Traveller Light. The Begali is
Ron AC7AC wrote :
My *only* complaint about the KX1 paddles is the same complaint I have about
every Elecraft rig - there's no keyer mode that lets me make my own dashes.
I would greatly enjoy a keyer mode that spits out dits automatically with
one paddle and then allows me to make dashes with
Ron,
I don't know about the K3, but my KX3 has a HAND mode which allows
the KXPD3 paddles to function as a straight key. Either paddle works
as a straight key. I use it when folks want my SKCC number for a
straight key QSO.
73,
W4RK - Bill Gerth
Jefferson City, MO
Bill :
It sounds like the KXPD3 could be used as a cootie key (aka Sideswiper) if
both left and right paddles are active in HAND mode.
Cool !
Michael VE3WMB
P.S. In HAND mode on the KX1/K1 I think that only one side of the paddle is
active.
On 2012-06-26, at 10:21 AM, Bill Gerth wrote:
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Larry Naumann
n0sa
So I guess the paddles will become difficult to get ahold of now.
73,
Rick W3BI
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:23:00 -0500
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Phil,
On the SP1/2, there is only one lever, and both finger pieces are
attached to it. The lever and the two finger pieces move as one.
73,
Randy, KS4L
On 6/26
I like the Navy flameproof 26003 for portable straight key operation.
Like the J38 it is meant to be screwed down, but I mounted mine on a
rectangle of Lexan, which gives me a fairly light and stable key with
contacts shielded from easy contamination. It also appears to be a
fairly rugged design.
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*Many fine suggestions.
When it comes to straight keys, it all depends on your sending style:
American or European. Those sending American style will like keys such as
the J-38 or Speed-X, but will be unhappy with keys such as the Kent or the
Swedish Pump Key. The opposite is usually the case
Depends on your budget. IMO, the best are N3ZN and Begali. In my
experience, Bencher is one of the worst.
Barry W2UP
Ronald Nutter wrote
The next thing I am looking at is getting a CW key.
Would appreciate any suggestions in this area that anyone here has.
Thanks,
Ron
KA4KYI
You might find some information at: http://www.radiotelegraphy.net
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I have two Begali keys, the camelback straight key and the magnetic classic.
Both are excellent and I use the magnetic classic all the time. But, I also
have a Bencher in the truck and I see no problems with it. It is fine for the
truck. Besides, it gets dropped on the floor or sometimes I
I have just ordered the Begali Expedition direct from Italy. It was a
rather rash moment I'm afraid, hope I don't regret it! It just looks so
cute in the photo on the Begali website! I love my Schurr Profi 2 but it's
too big and heavy to leave my desk!
73 Stephen G4SJP
On 25 June 2012 15:02,
Any key will do as long as you use it. Reduced CW receiving speed
generally has little to to do with the key. It does have a lot to do
with having CW QSO's.
Alternatively, skip the straight key and go straight to a bug or keyer.
Now I'm going to contradict the above.
Unlike conventional
Any-other super key is the Chevron, They are hand built in the UK, they come in
either Solid Bronze, Gold plated, or Chrome.
Check out the chevron web site.
Cant give the web address, I'm on the River Kennet, Fly fishing.
Ken..G0ORH
Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Jun 2012, at 15:07,
Phil,
The trick used to keep the J38 in place without weights or screws was to
reverse it on the bakelite base, so the key knob fell over the base. You could
then key away without problems. I use some anti-skid tape to help.
Monty K2DLJ
On Jun 25, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
I
I'm not a key connoisseur. Pounding brass here and there as part of my
work and at home as a Ham, I learned to send with whatever came to hand
(literally:-). The appeal of a J-38 is strictly nostalgic and, for me, it
works as well as any other straight key that I've touched. I use it for any
QSO's
OK, now -- hijacking this topic to ask a question of KX1 users...
I bought the paddle key attachment for my KX1 but I have not installed it yet.
I seem to prefer using my Begali key with my KX1. The attached KX1 paddle
seems like a great feature for hiking in the mountains where the weight of
I find the KX1 paddle nice to use, but as I said I am *not* picky about the
sort of key I use.
That said, the feel of any paddles I use is actually more important than
the feel of a mechanical key, probably because paddles are operated with the
fingers (instead or rolling one's whole hand on a
Ron wrote:
The appeal of a J-38 is strictly nostalgic and, for me, it
works as well as any other straight key that I've touched.
These keys have some military historical value as well.
The J-38 was never in operational/combat theater use...it was
used only for US Army radio operator Morse
25, 2012 3:19 PM
To: Ron D'Eau Claire
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?
OK, now -- hijacking this topic to ask a question of KX1 users...
I bought the paddle key attachment for my KX1 but I have not installed it
yet. I seem to prefer using my Begali key
Ron,
Instead of making your own dashes, for which the timing can become
critical, I would suggest you help lobby Wayne to include Ultimatic mode
into the Elecraft keyers. It is the only way I can use dual lever
paddles - the last paddle closed gets priority - for instance to send a
P, first
Ron wrote:
My *only* complaint about the KX1 paddles is the same complaint I have
about
every Elecraft rig - there's no keyer mode that lets me make my own
dashes.
I would greatly enjoy a keyer mode that spits out dits automatically
with
one paddle and then allows me to make dashes with
I agree with Don about the HexKey from Elecraft. Among other
things, it complements my K1, K2, K3 and (soon) KX3.
My previous favorite is the Mercury paddle that I bought at
Pacificon in the late 90s. It was custom-made by the person
who acquired the rights to reproduce the original N2DAN
Jim,
I recently acquired an ZN-SLR single lever paddle from Tony N3ZN - it is
a work of art and has a very smooth action. For straight keys, I have 3
- one is an original J-38 that sits in the shack as a nostalgia
generating decoration. The other is a J-37 whose original base has been
lost
Stephen, I can vouch for the excellent customer service
from Begali. I ordered a Sculpture on June 15th, too
late in the day for business hours in Italy. When I
checked my e-mail the following Monday I had a note
from Bruna Begali that it would be shipped by the end
of the week.
Actually, it
Jim,
Can only second that, I love my Begali Sculpture. It replaced my first
paddles, a Bencher, which fades rather in comparison.
Incidentally, I took it with me on a trip to Denmark with my FT817, but
only that one time, after that I've travelled lighter :) When I get the KX3
I will take that
Gee, and I can remember in about 1958 riding the train from the 'burbs into
Chicago for about $ .50, walking down to the surplus store, and buying new,
in the box J-38s for $ 1.95 each. They had hundreds, but short-sighted
teenager that I was, I only bought what I thought I needed at the time.
Check out Larry's paddles at:
http://n0sa.com/
Beautiful machine work with highly efficient low-mass arms; a real bargain
for the price he charges. There is also a single-lever version available.
--Ed--
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Bunte
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 6:48 PM
To: Jim Lowman
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?
Gee, and I can
OK, so we are swapping old stories. I walked down the streets of
Cleveland, Ohio from Case Institute of Technology to the surplus store
somewhere near the 200 block of Carnegie Ave. to the local surplus
emporium. I was a student at Case Institute of Technology at the time.
I bought a
These look nice -- does anyone here own one? I am probably weak on
understanding the terminology though. Does single-lever imply that it is not
an iambic squeeze type paddle. I noticed that the single-lever version appears
to have two levers but guessing that these do not offer the Squeeze
I have an N0SA SP1, predecessor to the current SP2, both single lever paddles.
I love the way it operates and looks. Excellent workmanship! Its really pretty
small. Not sure what's different between my SP1 and the newer SP2. These
single lever paddles won't do iambic, which I never could
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the K8RA paddles...beautiful work and
great price! I also own a ZN-SLR. I enjoy them both as well as two old
chrome plated EL Keys that still are really nice but can't compete with
either of the aforementioned paddles. 73 de Greg-N4CC
I do not own one of these products but perhaps I can help with the
terminology.
An iambic paddle *always* has two levers, each with a separate
fingerpiece. A non-iambic paddle *always* has a single lever but *may*
sport a dual fingerpiece to increase the spacing between the thumb and
I have been following this thread with much interest but I have not seen a
mention of magnets or springs. Springs may weaken with time but then again I
believe magnets can degrade with time as well. Within limits, I would expect
springs to be linear but magnets would be piecewise linear too.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Fred Townsend ftowns...@sbcglobal.netwrote:
...magnets or springs...?
Ya know, Fred, it seems as if magnets ought to be the preferred choice.
However, I have a Schurr Profi that uses springs, and the action is IMHO
absolutely perfect, the best of
Don wrote:
I eventually acquired a BC-348 receiver that gave me all ham
band coverage plusa lot of extra frequencies.
At least, all ham bands that could be found within the 200 to
600 kHz and 1500 to 18100 kHz coverage of the BC-348 (aka
AN/ARR-11). This was the best military MF/HF aircraft
I grew up with an attic full of ARC 5s. My dad was the radar/radioman
on B-24s and the radioman on B-17s so he kept them all in fine shape.
When I opened one I found perfect solder joints with each resistor lined
up EXACTLY with the next one. Each was a piece of art which I admired.
As far
When I'm not using my J-38 or Speed-X bug, I use a pair of original Scotia
paddles that I picked up at a Club meeting auction years ago.
They use magnets, not springs so the feel is reversed compared to a spring
loaded paddle. The magnet pulls the strongest when the key is at rest, and
that
2012 03:33:59
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?
I grew up with an attic full of ARC 5s. My dad was the radar/radioman
on B-24s and the radioman on B-17s so he kept them all in fine shape.
When I opened one I found perfect solder joints with each resistor
ftowns...@sbcglobal.net
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Cc:
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:34 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions... Magnets or springs
I have been following this thread with much interest but I have not seen a
mention of magnets or springs. Springs may weaken with time
I have a K8RA paddle. In fact it was my first paddle and the one that I
learned paddle on. But, it has taken a back seat after I got my Begali. I
have it connected to my backup rig, an Icom 756 Pro III, so whenever I fire
that up and go CW I am using the K8RA. The key is engineered with
So, a question...
With the dual levers of a single lever (non-iambic) SP2 paddle, when you press
one paddle, does the opposite paddle move in concert or is it actually
disconnected from the lever action of the other paddle. In other words, do the
paddles swing like an old Vibroplex Original
Thanks to all that have responded to my previous questions.
The next thing I am looking at is getting a CW key. I am thinking about
getting the plug-in key that is an option for KX3. Since the KX3 that
I have ordered probably wont be in my hands until sometime around
Christmas based on the
Ron,
I use a Bencher BY-1 that I bought used on eBay. I don't do too much
CW, so it was a great purchase for me. It's inexpensive, solidly built,
and the foundation level key from one of the top names in CW paddles, if
you don't want to pay for a Vibroplex.
Hope this helps.
73,
--Ian
Ian
Ron,
For paddles, the Hex Key from Elecraft is always a good choice - it is
about half the cost of premium paddles from N3ZN or Bengali (use Google).
I recently acquired a single lever paddle from Tony N3ZN and can tell
you it is a work of art and extremely smooth operating.
For straight
I am on the same path, just ordered a KX3 and likewise will add the paddle
to the order before I receive the 'Christmas present'. I've been moving
slowly towards CW over the last 2 years and have had a Vibroplex Iambic on
my 'list' the whole time. About 6 weeks ago, I picked up at Nye-Viking
Wilhelm
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:48 PM
To: Ronald Nutter
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?
Ron,
For paddles, the Hex Key from Elecraft is always a good choice - it is about
half the cost of premium paddles from N3ZN or Bengali (use Google).
I recently
Nutter
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:24 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?
Thanks to all that have responded to my previous questions.
The next thing I am looking at is getting a CW key. I am thinking about
getting the plug-in key that is an option for KX3
of keeping the 'skeeters out! ;-)
With best regards,
Pete
W1PNS
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Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:23:51 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?
Thanks to all that have responded to my
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?
I am on the same path, just ordered a KX3 and likewise will add the paddle
to the order before I receive the 'Christmas present'. I've been moving
slowly towards CW over the last 2 years and have had a Vibroplex Iambic on
my
I gave away my J-38, mined from a WWII surplus store in the early 1950's,
to a new Novice years ago after I switched all of my CW operating using
paddles and, eventually, grew to regret it when I returned to a bug and
straight key. Then I ran into Larry, W6CCW, in Northern California on 40
meter
I had a J-38 as a kid (as many of us did) and started to feet nostalgic
about it. A few years back I bought one on E-bay. So now I don't feel
nostalgic anymore, but I also don't use the J-28. Keys have come a long
way since WW II and thankfully so.
It was a nice key when it was a buck fifty
I am looking at getting a CW key for the FT817...
817? How about the Palm Paddles? A perfect companion.
Not bigger or heavier heavier than the xcvr, like the Elecraft Hex Key
would be (my favourite until I bought my Begali Magnetic Pro). Seems I like
the magnetic return best, but the Palm sticks
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