[Elecraft] Elecraft antennas in trees

2008-07-28 Thread Tom Boucher
Another warning! A few years ago I used a catapult and a drilled golf ball with some braided nylon line over an oak tree. When it became stuck in a branch, I wound the line round a piece of wood and gave it my full weight to release it. The end result? I literally shot myself in the foot,

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-28 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Jon Kåre Hellan wrote: It's http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.html - with an 'l' at the end. That's better. Note that anyone thinking of using this in England might be advised to consult with the local police as it might be interpreted as being an air rifle, in which case the

RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-28 Thread Julius Fazekas
This is Alan's site (as is the previous posting). I whole heartedly recommend the CSV-19. It is simple to use and effective, particularly if you have tall trees. I've tried most of the other suggested methods, and while most will work to some degree or another, they usually take multiple tries

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-28 Thread Ralph Tyrrell
The ARRL Antenna Book suggests using a pulley and counter weight to allow for the varying distances between trees caused by wind. At my former QTH, Ellijay GA, I noticed that in very gusty conditions sometimes the support trees moved in opposite directions at the same time. I decided to make my

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-28 Thread Brian
My G5RV is up in the oak trees here and is attached using springs at each end. They are about 12 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. Been up for a couple of years with no problems. Brian N1WNC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-28 Thread n4lq
] - Original Message - From: Ralph Tyrrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees The ARRL Antenna Book suggests using a pulley and counter weight to allow for the varying distances between trees caused

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees; Ant Launching [end of thread]

2008-07-28 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
With close to 40 posts in the last couple of days on these topics, we've saturated this area. Let's let it rest for now. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-28 Thread Paul Gates, KD3JF
Antennas in trees To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 1:41 PM My G5RV is up in the oak trees here and is attached using springs at each end. They are about 12 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. Been up for a couple of years with no problems

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Benny Aumala wrote: http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm That URL seems to lead to a cybersquatter (the sort that gives you their search engine results). It might, though, be worth noting that professional tree climbers use throw bags and slick line to get a messenger over a tree

RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Charles Harpole
, but take care of down range hits. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:14:11 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees Benny Aumala wrote: http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread AD6XY
to the rope and start again. Hard work. It is easier to fire up a weight in a catapult. To stop leaving failed projectiles (e.g. tennis balls) in the tree, make the projectile out of ice, it will then melt. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-Antennas-in-trees-tp582760p585503

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Dan's comment is very true of *any* antenna, and most especially tree mounted antennas. To survive storms at all, it's very important that the antenna wire or the halyards *never* fall under strain from the tree as it moves in the wind. Even small trees can exert tons of pressure on the wire or

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Alan Bloom
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 04:14, David Woolley (E.L) wrote: Benny Aumala wrote: http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm That URL seems to lead to a cybersquatter (the sort that gives you their search engine results). It works if you delete the /csv19/index.htm part. It might,

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan
David Woolley (E.L) wrote: Benny Aumala wrote: http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm That URL seems to lead to a cybersquatter (the sort that gives you their search engine results). It's http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.html - with an 'l' at the end. It might,

RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Bill Johnson
. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bloom Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:29 PM To: David Woolley (E.L) Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 04:14, David Woolley (E.L) wrote: Benny

Fw: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Jim Miller
i watched an arborist doing some work next door and he showed me the old man's toss. it is a between-the-legs toss and it really works well for me compared to the lariat toss. it uses the arms, legs and back and is directly in line with your spine. i went home and with very little practice i

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:47:54 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: The counterweights need to be heavy enough to hold the antenna, but not heavier than needed for that. When trees whip in the winds, the inertia of the counterweights can produce shock loads many, many times greater than the weights

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-27 Thread Brett Howard
I've gotten my fair share of storms here too and rather than go the route of counter weights since I had to kinda skirt the side of a big cedar I opted for a rope method. I ended up tying two ropes together at the center point of the dipole. Then ran the rope up into the trees. The rope bears

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-26 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Ron, The information which I have sent to those who expressed interest contained a sketch which I believe would not be allowed in a post to the List. I could replace the diagram by some text if you think that I should post it, but unfortunately I won't be able to do that today. I hope that

[Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-25 Thread Martin Evans
Sorry for the off topic query but a few years ago I saw on this reflector a link to a site which showed a design for a system of two poles and cords which was used to drop a weight over a tree bow and get further up the tree by stages. I cannot use a projectile since there is a house immediately

RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
-Original Message- Sorry for the off topic query but a few years ago I saw on this reflector a link to a site which showed a design for a system of two poles and cords which was used to drop a weight over a tree bow and get further up the tree by stages. I cannot use a projectile since

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-25 Thread n4lq
All you need is a dog, a cat and a rifle. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Martin Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees Sorry for the off topic query

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-25 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hi Martin, By any chance are you thinking about the method I use? We discussed it a few years ago, please contact me off-List if you think that it might be. I have since 'refined' the hardware used to get up 100ft plus pine trees in roughly 25ft stages, which also allows accurate positioning of

RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees

2008-07-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Whatziz this off line stuff Geoff? I'm sure a number of us are interested. I know I am. Don't be afraid of the self-appointed list cops. There's only one moderator and he's heartily endorsed such digressions within reason. Experience shows that if it's something an Elecraft rig owner might be

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft- Antennas and trees

2004-09-10 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 4:08 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft- Antennas and trees We use slingshots and archery in the forest (but they are generally illegal inside city limits or in residential areas), or Pneumatic Tennis Ball Launchers

[Elecraft] Elecraft- Antennas and trees

2004-09-09 Thread Martin . Evans
Snip Bad news. Very sorry indeed. I agree with Ron about strain relief when using trees. A MUST in my opinion. Here I have a rope catenary up about 80 feet and about 200ft long, one end to a pine tree - the other to a hardwood. Both dance in the 100 mph winds we get at times, nothing like