Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-29 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Wilhelm Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:46 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions I could take offense at that statement. We each speak from our level of education and information available. I thought we had a technical forum here - there are some asides

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread k . igor
degraded the total response in the stop band. 73, Igor, N1YX       - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:33:14 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions On 3/27/2012 11:12 AM, k.i

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread Dave Hachadorian
-Original Message- From: k.i...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:05 AM To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions If it pleases you to use DSP set wider than roofing filter - by all means, go for it. I would

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread k . igor
: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:55:56 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions Igor, You are missing the point.   K8ZOA's measurements were for a continuous carrier. You can't measure speech intelligibility with the K3's dBV meter. My  recommendation for DSP bandwidth of 2.1 KHz and 1.8

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM, k.i...@comcast.net wrote: ...fact as opposed to categorical unbased statement from somebody... Ah but Igor, you are trying to argue from evidence. That's a no-no. The way to prove your point is to assert it in CAPS. Then and only then will you be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/28/2012 12:55 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: You are missing the point. K8ZOA's measurements were for a continuous carrier. You can't measure speech intelligibility with the K3's dBV meter. Exactly right. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
I could take offense at that statement. We each speak from our level of education and information available. I thought we had a technical forum here - there are some asides (that many - hopefully most - enjoy) which interject some light-hearted comments, but (IMHO) the technical issues should

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:46 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions I could take offense at that statement. We each speak

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread Jack Berry
2.8, 2.1, 400 - no need to go tighter IMO. Before buying a 1.8, I suggest spending time on someone's K3 with a 1.8 if you can. I think you would find it fatiguing to listen to for more than a few minutes. Certainly not a rag chewing filter. Jack - WE5ST On Mar 26, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Dave

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread Thomas Horsten
Dave, 1. I prefer the 2.1 filter for SSB, 1.8 can potentially give a slight edge when the bands are extremely crowded, but generally speaking I use the 2.7 and narrow down to 2.1 if there is much QRM, remember that with the DSP you can go as low as you want, so it only makes a real difference if

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread Gary Gregory
*Jack, with respect I would disagree with your assessment of the 1.8Khz filter. From experience, I had both the 2.1 and 1.8 fitted and by judicious use of the Hi Cut/Lo Cut adjustment I find the 1.8 far better in practice. Audio quality is easily made pleasant to the ear without introduction of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I used the 1.8 for the entire WPX SSB contest, with a DSP width of 2.1 KHz. It sounded great. I never messed with any of the settings for the entire contest. To get this combination of DSP=2.1 and crystal=1.8, one has to install the 1.8 filter as if it were a 2.1, so it switches in at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread k . igor
: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:52:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions I used the 1.8 for the entire WPX SSB contest, with a DSP width of 2.1 KHz.  It sounded great.  I never messed with any of the settings for the entire contest.  To get this combination of DSP=2.1 and crystal=1.8, one has

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/27/2012 11:12 AM, k.i...@comcast.net wrote: I am pretty sure the DSP filter is effective only if it is narrower than the roofing filter. Not at all true. When reading K6LL's comments, bear in mind that he is a VERY good operator and engineer. I value anything he has to say. I posted

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread Thomas Horsten
. There is white paper on the matter somewhere on Elecraft web site (by Eric S). 73, Igor, N1YX - Original Message - From: Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:52:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-27 Thread WILLIS COOKE
: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter questions On 3/27/2012 11:12 AM, k.i...@comcast.net wrote: I am pretty sure the DSP filter is effective only  if it is narrower than the roofing filter. Not at all true.  When reading K6LL's comments, bear in mind that he

[Elecraft] K3 Filter questions

2012-03-26 Thread Dave (K7DRT)
I am still studying the K3 and the various options I use. I still plan to purchase one. My previous radios (IC-756PRO the last one) I used 2.4 khz and 1.8 kHz for SSB and 500 hz 250 hz for CW / Data. The K3 comes with a 2.7 kHz 5-pole filter. My SSB questions are: from your experience, 1)