Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-10-01 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Looks like this thread has way drifted OT.   Let's close it for now. I also gave the original poster a call and his KPA1500 is OK. He made some new changes external to the 1500 based on list comments and the problem is no longer present. We'll stay in touch with him to make sure he

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-10-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/1/2019 2:12 AM, David Wilcox wrote: A trip to Palomar Engineers with a description of your set up will help so they can sell you the correct EMI suppression toroid set up. NO! This company doesn't have a clue, is selling the wrong components, and for very high prices. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-10-01 Thread David Wilcox via Elecraft
You have to use the best quality connecting cables. A trip to Palomar Engineers with a description of your set up will help so they can sell you the correct EMI suppression toroid set up. And, YES, even some of Elecraft’s cables can be (or become) defective as described in this site. A

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-30 Thread Al Lorona
And not just antenna and feedlines, but the AC wiring in your shack, the potential EMI problems, etc. This is why I keep saying that hams badly need a tutorial -- perhaps something named, "What to Expect When You Run High Power".  There are lots of us, including me, that could learn about the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Bill Johnson
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of David Gilbert Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 4:45:55 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN! I've probably posted this here before, but I once had a 160m Inverted-V at 70 feet

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread David Gilbert
I've probably posted this here before, but I once had a 160m Inverted-V at 70 feet that didn't have a DC ground.  As a thunderstorm approached (but was still several miles away) I reached down to short the coax end in the shack and drew a heavy blue 2 inch long arc that traveled from the end

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jeff Blaine
It's from my head.  I have a BVT - it's DC so the 4K is a DC claim.  I BVT cables used here in the shack as a fast way to ensure I don't have some microscopic wire or filing or whatever down in a connector - stuff like that is a nightmare to troubleshoot. At one point I tried to use a PL259

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread K8TE
For those with insulated verticals, the potential gradient is about 100 V/meter. That varies with humidity and altitude. But, you get the picture. In dry climates like here in NM, this is a big deal for commercial broadcast AM antennas. Even with the transmitter shut down, unless there is a

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Walter Underwood
Few of us can guarantee dry air for our antenna connections. Where is this data from? For the question “Has anyone tested them?”, I expect that Amphenol tests to the published specs. Those tests would be over the entire temperature range in the data sheet. If you visit the data sheets I linked

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/27/2019 12:00 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote: One thing I can say from personal experience is that if you have a tall or long antenna, you definitely need a static bleed on that bad boy. YES! After experiencing multiple shorts of Polyphaser arrestors on high wires, I've switched to the arrestors

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Michael Walker
I'm going to partially disagree with Jim :) I agree on good quality connectors, when you have them. I can honestly say I have yet to have a none-Amphenol fail since I learned to solder them in 1972. I can also honestly say I have had a connector fail when I did not assembly it correctly. This

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jeff Blaine
I don't doubt the AMP connector is great but doubt this issue is due to a connector. One thing I can say from personal experience is that if you have a tall or long antenna, you definitely need a static bleed on that bad boy.  Never really gave those stories much credence but a number of

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/27/2019 11:01 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: If PL-259s are failing they are either poor quality connectors or there are serious antenna issues causing excessive voltage. YES! Only first quality connectors and adapters should be used. I run legal limit to resonant antennas fed with 50 ohm and

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes and without proper lightning protection or static build-up prevention on a feedline, a nearby strike can induce 4KV+ on the antenna and feedline.  A flash-over will likely leave a carbon trace that will be followed by a few 100 watts of RF.   It only gets worst, not better.   On more than

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jeff Blaine
PL259/SO239 BDV is around 4KV in dry air. 73/jeff/ac0c alpha-charlie-zero-charlie www.ac0c.com On 9/27/19 1:01 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: 5000 watts is 500 volts rms with a perfect antenna system. I suspect that PL-259 connectors really can withstand much more than 500 volts. Has anyone tested

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread john
5000 watts is 500 volts rms with a perfect antenna system. I suspect that PL-259 connectors really can withstand much more than 500 volts. Has anyone tested them? My station has a mixture of UHF, N and DIN connectors and all have worked perfectly for 1500 watts HF. If PL-259s are failing

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing

2019-09-27 Thread Walter Underwood
This would be a lot easier with a public support forum, but I understand why Elecraft might not want to take that on. The mailing list is awesome, but it isn’t a very good database. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Sep 27, 2019, at 6:42 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing

2019-09-27 Thread N4ZR
I just fixed a very similar problem with my station - I could run 100 watts to my Carolina Windom all day, but it failed instantly at 1500 watts. The problem turned out to be a very nice-looking factory-installed PL-259 feeding the antenna.  Looking inside revealed carbon tracking, etc., so

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Walter Underwood
n SWR bridge/monitor. It looked okay, and >>> was finger tight, but when I replaced it in an A/B test, the problem went >>> away. >>>> >>>> The other time, the antenna had changed its impedance curve, but was >>> still 'okay' and the tuner was trying to ret

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jim Miller
N5CQ > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net < > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> > > On Behalf Of Jim Brown > > > Sent: Friday, Sept

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Michael Walker
ance curve, but was > still 'okay' and the tuner was trying to retune for it. > > > > 73 John N5CQ > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Jim Brown > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 4:19 AM

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing

2019-09-27 Thread Charlie T
I would request that any solution one finds for their KPA-1500 failing, be posted on this forum, even if it's (typically like me) cockpit error. We have seen many "My KPA-1500 died" listings. These are obviously quite disconcerting to us potential buyers (again like me). Often, the original

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
im Brown > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 4:19 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN! > >> On 9/26/2019 10:26 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote: >> Any idea where to start looking here? &

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread John Langdon
Of Jim Brown Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 4:19 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN! On 9/26/2019 10:26 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote: > Any idea where to start looking here? And if it's a vertical, what about the radial system? 73, Jim K

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/26/2019 10:26 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote: Any idea where to start looking here? And if it's a vertical, what about the radial system? 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/26/2019 10:26 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote: Any idea where to start looking here? What is the antenna? The feedline? Is the antenna resonant? Is there a serious common mode choke at the feedpoint? (See http://k9yc.com/2018Cookbook.pdf ) Is it matched to the feedline at the frequency (ies)

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-26 Thread Vic Rosenthal
What happens with a dummy load? If it doesn’t fail, then the problem is in the antenna. The KPA may be more sensitive to a short period of high SWR than the K3. Victor 4X6GP > On 27 Sep 2019, at 8:26, Peter Dougherty wrote: > > My KPA is once again repeatedly failing on 160m. I haven't used

[Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

2019-09-26 Thread Peter Dougherty
My KPA is once again repeatedly failing on 160m. I haven't used it on Topband since about the end of March, when it was fine. My antenna is checking out fine on my AA-230 ZOOM analyzer, and I can run 100W into the antenna from the K3s with no problem. I'm getting FAULT: PWR REFL on every keydown