Re: [Elecraft] microphones

2013-06-22 Thread Stephen Selberg
reports. > 73 > George > AI4VZ > > -Original Message- > From: Robert 'RC' Conley > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:00 PM > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] microphones > > The Elecraft MH2 is a condenser microphone > The As

Re: [Elecraft] microphones

2013-06-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
RC, No, they are not interchangable. The impedance is the problem. The unamplified D-104 (and other Astatic crystal [or ceramic] element mics needs a high impedance to work into and sound good. The K2 and K3 have a low impedance input. If you have the amplified D-104, then it will drive the

Re: [Elecraft] microphones

2013-06-22 Thread GDanner
June 22, 2013 12:00 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] microphones The Elecraft MH2 is a condenser microphone The Astatic is a crystal microphone A dynamic microphone are they interchangeable -- On the 8th day. God created Amateur Radio and Baseball. NAQCC #0420 SKCC #089 FP

[Elecraft] microphones

2013-06-22 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
The Elecraft MH2 is a condenser microphone The Astatic is a crystal microphone A dynamic microphone are they interchangeable -- On the 8th day. God created Amateur Radio and Baseball. NAQCC #0420 SKCC #089 FP #567 Wiol ono __ Elecraft m

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones - Yaesu MH-31

2012-07-27 Thread Steve KC8QVO
I got a buddy of mine to get on 6m this evening to try out the mic on SSB. He said I sounded just fine. I did not adjust any settings, I had it on full mic gain and compression the whole time. I was able to get 10-12 watts out (off the meter on the rig, didn't hook it to an external meter/monitor)

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones - Yaesu MH-31

2012-07-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve, The only thing I can say is that there is more than enough audio drive with my MH3 microphone. Does your MH-31 work with plenty of audio on your FT-817 or FT-857? My numbering scheme was consistent with a left to right convention looking into the jack opening (like the diagram in the FT-

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones - Yaesu MH-31

2012-07-26 Thread Steve KC8QVO
Don Wilhelm-4 wrote > > Pin 4 goes to the tip > Pin 5 goes to the shell > Pin 3 goes to Ring 1 > Pin 2 goes to Ring 2 > Don, Your numbering was backwards from what I used, but I translated the numbers from the other direction (made 8 = 1, 1 = 8, and the others in between to match) and got the

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones - Yaesu MH-31

2012-07-24 Thread Barry N1EU
Steve KC8QVO wrote > > I do not believe the mic needs any power, but I could be wrong. > When connected to the FT-8x7 radios, one of the wires carries +5V but the mic element itself does not use it. I use an MH-31 coupled with a DYC-8x7 processor/preamp dongle (http://www.box73.de/product_i

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones - Yaesu MH-31

2012-07-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve, The MH31 mic is a dynamic type and does not need bias. I suspect that you do not have the correct wires connected. Take a look at the wiring for that microphone at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/mh31a.html Pin 4 goes to the tip Pin 5 goes to the shell Pin 3 goes to Ring 1 Pin 2 goe

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones - Yaesu MH-31

2012-07-24 Thread Barry N1EU
Steve KC8QVO wrote > > I do not believe the mic needs any power, but I could be wrong. > When connected to the FT-8x7 radios, one of the wires carries +5V but the mic element itself does not use it. I use an MH-31 coupled with a DYC-8x7 processor/preamp dongle (http://www.box73.de/product_i

[Elecraft] Microphones - Yaesu MH-31

2012-07-24 Thread Steve KC8QVO
I have a spare Yaesu MH-31 from my FT-857D that has never been used. So I figured I would implement it with the KX3. There is very little audio coming out of the rig, the ALC will not budge on max audio and compression unless I whistle in to the mic where it will hit about 5 tick marks. I can hea

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K3?

2008-04-15 Thread Ian J Maude
Jim Miller wrote: K3 on order. I have the original Heil Gold Line with the HC-5 and the full range elements that I planned to use on my K3. It is wired Kenwood 8 pin (TS-440). Ready to go Hi Jim, I use the Goldline on the K3 with the EQ virtually flat. For ragchew on 80m I use the b

[Elecraft] Microphones for K3?

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Miller
K3 on order. I have the original Heil Gold Line with the HC-5 and the full range elements that I planned to use on my K3. It is wired Kenwood 8 pin (TS-440). Ready to go TIA es 73, de Jim KG0KP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K3?

2008-04-14 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Bill Maddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... I have a factory kenwood mic mc-43, a MC-60A and a Heil Pro set all for my TS-850S; will these work without a rewire? The Kenwood MC-43S is a very popular microphone with both the K2 and the K3, Bill. It will plug in and work w

RE: [Elecraft] Microphones for K3?

2008-04-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
ehalf Of Bill Maddock > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:47 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Microphones for K3? > > > Guys, > >I have a factory kenwood mic mc-43, a MC-60A and > a Heil Pro set all for my TS-850S; will these work > withou

[Elecraft] Microphones for K3?

2008-04-14 Thread Bill Maddock
Guys, I have a factory kenwood mic mc-43, a MC-60A and a Heil Pro set all for my TS-850S; will these work without a rewire? Also who has bought the TXCO what difference does it make? Thanks and 73m Bill N4ZI __

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread Alan Bloom
I read years ago that speech processors like pre-emphasized audio (louder highs, quieter lows). And the heavier the processing the more pre-emphasis is optimum. Does anyone know if the K3 speech processor does that automatically? Al N1AL On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 01:52, Brendan Minish wrote: > On

RE: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread Brett Howard
an.qth.net Subject: Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards) > I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit > a wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from > "their" channel. I personally would not inte

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones

2008-02-14 Thread Jerry Keller (K3BZ)
KD1NA We need more of your kind of attitude and true ham spirit. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "David Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Microphones I know that there

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread Mike S
At 08:28 AM 2/14/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... This is why you want to have a signal with a very high average power level, but one which is also not wider than necessary. That sounds like CW. :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mail

[Elecraft] Microphones

2008-02-14 Thread David Robertson
I know that there has been lots of responses to the microphone compatibility on this forum but let me comment on this subject on a different light. When I first became licensed back in 1957 we were expected to, at the very least, be able to read and interpret schematics, wire up our own rig int

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread dj7mgq
I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit a wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from "their" channel. I personally would not intentionally transmit a "wide" signal during a contest. It would, imho, be counterproductive, apart from any other re

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit a wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from "their" channel. Ahmust be one of those "advance the technology" things that justify contestsgood for everyo

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread d.cutter
> I've heard it said that some contest stations deliberately transmit a > wider-than-necessary signal to keep competitiors away from "their" channel. David G3UNA > > > > Within the context of SSB useage in ham radio I believe that the 'hype about > audio' could lead to another related proble

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Thanks for posting your interesting comments Brendan. Within the context of SSB useage in ham radio I believe that the 'hype about audio' could lead to another related problem, if not already existing, which is poor use of the HF spectrum available to us. Given the proven fact that a SSB trans

[Elecraft] Microphones (was electronic product standards)

2008-02-14 Thread Brendan Minish
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 12:12 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > There were some microphones produced for the "communications" market back > then such as the famous Astatic D-104 which had a microphone element with a > shaped response showing a distinct hump around 3 kHz, rolling off slowly at > lower

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones

2007-12-15 Thread DaleJ
You could make your own using a eight pin receptacle, some cable and a eight pin plug. You can find them all here: MP8MIL, inline male receptacle I believe would be the one you need along with the standard mike connector. The fastest would be to re-wire th

[Elecraft] Microphones

2007-12-15 Thread Dave G4AON
Rather than mess around with adapters, it's a simple enough job to re-wire the microphone plug. For what's it's worth, I use a Kenwood MC-43S fist microphone. This dynamic microphone is widely available and low cost, it doesn't require any re-wiring of the plug and works straight out of the b

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones

2007-12-15 Thread John [K7SVV]
e set to the MD2/MH2 configuration with a resistor between pins 1 and 6. John [K7SVV] - Original Message - From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Microphones Is it possible to use an ICOM SM20 with the K3 ?

RE: [Elecraft] Microphones

2007-12-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
6 7 - 7 8 - 6 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:24 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.ne

[Elecraft] Microphones

2007-12-14 Thread Barry Simpson
Is it possible to use an ICOM SM20 with the K3 ? Looking at the K3 manual the mic socket pinouts are different from the SM20 although there is bias available as used in the ICOM electret element. It seems to me that I will need to rewire the SM20 plug. Is there an Icom to K3 mic adaptor or

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread John Huggins
Thank you for the hints. Thanks to your and other's comments on the Elecraft list I have found numerous good examples with some as minimalistic as a FET + passives all the way to a good Instrumentation Amp + passives. This has inspired me to create a circuit based more on the modern In-Amp m

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread Greg Derda
I am pretty sure that there are a couple of very simple circuits in "W1FB's Design Notebook" that specifically use the "D104 -> modern_radio" as an example. Greg KI4MMM K2 #6100 On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: John, If your D104 is an older one with the high impedance crystal

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, If your D104 is an older one with the high impedance crystal or ceramic element, yes it will not work so well (if at all). There was an article in QST about a year ago with a circuit design that had a very high impedance input and the low impedance output required by modern day radios,

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread Bill W5WVO
Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Never had a problem John getting full rated PEP output from K2/100 #3255 using the HC-4 and HC-5 elements in the Heil ProSet Plus headset without an external preamp, but I don't use the K2/100's VOX. If I used VOX a little more audio gain would be required in th

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Never had a problem John getting full rated PEP output from K2/100 #3255 using the HC-4 and HC-5 elements in the Heil ProSet Plus headset without an external preamp, but I don't use the K2/100's VOX. If I used VOX a little more audio gain would be required in the VOX circuit, but additional audi

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread John Huggins
Thanks for the information all. So... I guess hooking up a D104 straight to K2 is not going to work out so well. Yes I know this is like putting tail fins on a Ford Taurus, but the kids really dig talking into a mic like that during times we promote ham radio. The D104 with my old Kenwood

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
John and all, You are correct that 'Heil Proset' by itself does not adequately describe the microphone. As is the case with all Heil mics, one must also be specific about the mic element used. The K2 works best with an electret element because they have higher output levels. The K3 FAQ pag

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread John R. Lonigro
John and Charles: The Heil Prosets with the HC-4 or HC-5 elements don't have quite enough output to drive the K2 without either an external preamp or tweaking of the K2's internal circuitry. The version with the electret element seems to work better with the K2. I believe the Heil K2 Proset i

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:53:40 -0400, John Huggins wrote: >What is it that makes any microphone >"optimized" for any radio. Pin outs are obvious of course. Many years ago, an international standards organization issued a poorly thought out standard for 2-way radio communications that, if follow

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Julian G4ILO
Marketing. :) -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/5/07, John Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Charles brings up a good point. What is it that makes any microphone > "optimized" for any radio. Pin outs are obvio

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread John Huggins
Charles Harpole wrote: I see that now Elecraft is offering sale of a Heil K2 Pro Set mic/headphone unit, saying it is "optimized for K2." I assume that also means K3. Charles brings up a good point. What is it that makes any microphone "optimized" for any radio. Pin outs are obvious of co

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for the K3

2007-04-30 Thread Ken Kopp
Can the K3's connector be configured for other microphones at the time of assembly? My K2 is set up for my Icom mics, since I have seven of 'em, including a Heil HS ... and no others. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Pos

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for the K3

2007-04-30 Thread Jeff Stai
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Yes. The K3 8 pin mic connector is wired the same as the K2 using the Kenwood pinout. Plus we added a lot more mic pre-amp gain (adjustable) in the K3. Ah. My first K3 rework - my K2s are wired to match Yaesu. Please don't hide the traces! thanks for

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for the K3

2007-04-30 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes. The K3 8 pin mic connector is wired the same as the K2 using the Kenwood pinout. Plus we added a lot more mic pre-amp gain (adjustable) in the K3. 73, Eric WA6HHQ --- Stan Rife wrote: Wayne, are we going to be able to use the existing microphones for the K3? I have the mobile m

RE: [Elecraft] Microphones for the K3

2007-04-30 Thread Stan Rife
Wayne, are we going to be able to use the existing microphones for the K3? I have the mobile mic for the K2, as well as the desk mic and the Heil headset all wired for Kenwood. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2

2006-12-08 Thread Don Nesbitt
Hi Jim - I use my old D-104 with the original crystal cartridge all the time with my K2 and get great reports. No need for a preamp, etc. as the crystal cartridge has output to burn! The problem with using a nonamplified D-104 with the K2 is that the D-104 is a very high impedance mic and the

RE: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2

2006-12-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Not difficult IMHO, but you decide on the level of difficulty for you. Certainly that D104 can be made to work with the K2. If it is the amplified version, no problem, just give it the proper microphone plug and all will be well. If it is the unamplified version, then you will have to buil

[Elecraft] Microphones for K2

2006-12-08 Thread Soaring Eagles
Hi! I'm currently finishing up K2 #5757 and plan to add SSB in the near future. I currently have an Icom 746 and the Heil Pro-set Ic. I'm wondering if I'll be able to use that headset with the K2? From what I've read, it sounds like the right choice as the mike output is higher for both the Ic

[Elecraft] Microphones for K2

2006-12-05 Thread Soaring Eagles
Hi! I'm currently finishing up K2 #5757 and plan to add SSB in the near future. I currently have an Icom 746 and the Heil Pro-set Ic. I'm wondering if I'll be able to use that headset with the K2? From what I've read, it sounds like the right choice as the mike output is higher for both the Ic