Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-15 Thread David Woolley
The part at 1:03:00 involves a signal that had a large impulsive component, and was treated with a combination of noise blanking and noise reduction. Applying pure noise reduction wasn't going to help. You can actually see from the pure noise reduction example they played, that they were not

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-15 Thread Walter Underwood
I’ll give a quick summary of that preso. The longest section is about noise blankers, not noise reduction. He discusses three types. First, the traditional blanker that takes the signal to zero during a detected impulse. Second, an interpolating blanker that replaces the impulse-affected

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-14 Thread Wes Stewart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrVDL_-HOds starting at 41 minutes.  Particularly at 1 hour 3 minutes. On 1/12/2019 9:51 AM, David Woolley wrote: Do you have a reference for an algorithm that will do this? __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-14 Thread Graziano Roccon (IW2NOY)
Hello all, Hello Wayne, following Mike KF6KXG suggestion, i would like to have a more intuitive Noise Reduction (NR). I used several last Icom or Yaesu model and their NR are more intuitive and easy to use, without loose efficiency and without ruin the signal audio and strenght. Especially

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-13 Thread Bill Steffey
sounds like an Aphex Compellor On 1/13/2019 10:01 AM, HB wrote: I have used an outboard compressor/expander for this (paired with a 7 band parametric(quasi) equalizer) and besides normalizing audio levels can squash static crashes and pad certain frequencies above a certain intensity

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-13 Thread Roger D Johnson
What ever happened to giving us some alternate selectivity on the APF? 73, Roger __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-13 Thread HB
I have used an outboard compressor/expander for this (paired with a 7 band parametric(quasi) equalizer) and besides normalizing audio levels can squash static crashes and pad certain frequencies above a certain intensity automatically (similar to de-easing in function). It was more analog than

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread Christopher Hoover
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:50 PM Walter Underwood wrote: > It would be really great if the AF gain was automatically to keep the > audio roughly level when NR is engaged. This drives me nuts, always riding > the gain back and forth. I’m sure the gain adjustment would be different > for different

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread Bill Steffey
forty years in the audio business have allowed me to hear some of the best and worst audio/\ I bought clear speech before and after Bob tired selling it, and two others before finding the BHI product series from England. Some how their algorithm, to me at least, does the least harm to human

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread Erik Basilier
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Walter Underwood Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 9:21 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features Sorry, KX3. Though I think the K3 and KX2 use similar algorithms. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
David's analysis is correct. Go to his last sentence - that is the Noise Blanker (NB) and not Noise Reduction (NR). NB punches a hole in the signal in response to impulse noise. It will cause signal distortion, getting worse with more aggressive settings. Noise Reduction (NR) depends on

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread David Woolley
Do you have a reference for an algorithm that will do this? Noise reduction is difficult because any effective noise reduction has to recognize what is signal, and ideally what is the part of the signal that matters to the human. The hearing aid industry has been trying to do this for years,

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread Walter Underwood
Sorry, KX3. Though I think the K3 and KX2 use similar algorithms. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 11, 2019, at 8:53 PM, John Evans wrote: > > And yet, I have no idea which Elecraft rig you are referring to here. Drives > us K1, K2, KX3

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Use external audio processing, otherwise a compressor or limiter, with variable attack and release and threshold and ratio controls.   Then follow that with a small power amp to drive an external speaker.     Frankly, I doubt you'd like the results. I find it better to not use the NR feature

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-12 Thread bill
Regarding my K3 (original): DSP reduces the volume. When you turn the volume up to where you can again hear - the junk noise level is right back up there also. A couple of days ago we had a major wind storm and a power line down the road was periodically arcing. It was uncomfortable to listen

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-11 Thread John Evans
And yet, I have no idea which Elecraft rig you are referring to here.  Drives us K1, K2, KX3 owners crazy. 73 - john - n0hj On 1/11/2019 9:49 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: It would be really great if the AF gain was automatically to keep the audio roughly level when NR is engaged. This drives

Re: [Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-11 Thread Walter Underwood
It would be really great if the AF gain was automatically to keep the audio roughly level when NR is engaged. This drives me nuts, always riding the gain back and forth. I’m sure the gain adjustment would be different for different conditions, but at least get close. wunder K6WRU Walter

[Elecraft] Query for new DSP features

2019-01-11 Thread Mike Lichtman via Elecraft
Wayne, I would like to see an improved Noise Reduction that doesn’t lower the volume or distort as much. Also the digital mode decode has never really worked well for me and, yes, I read the manual about using it. Could you have the digital choices RTTY, PSK31, etc. instead of the current