It's still as tough as it's always been, just like a hailstorm of callers
for which you need a good rx and even better ears to sort out. As the
population of P3s and other panadapters expands, more random listening might
help, rather than ploughing a furrow.
David
G3UNA
T32C
Perhaps this
For better or for worse, most Hams have moved beyond the days of sitting
quietly in front of the receiver and tuning very slowly across a seemingly
dead band listening for the whisper of a signal.
For me it was at once a frustrating and a magical experience far removed
from today's shacks filled
, 2013 11:29 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
For better or for worse, most Hams have moved beyond the days of sitting
quietly in front of the receiver and tuning very slowly across a seemingly
dead band listening for the whisper of a signal.
For me
Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on the last
frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and listened for the
calling station. After I got my P3 it seemed to be a real advantage because
you could instantly find the calling station (if you could
Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play spin the dial more; having many
stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow their rate.
I experienced this effect at PZ5RO. It would be interesting to get feedback
from DXpedition ops.
73, Redd - AI2N
eric norris
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Sent: 09 March 2013 10:39
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on the
last frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and listened for
the calling station
It's called progress. It doesn't have to be a P3. Look at the ire
the use of SKIMMER has generated.
Now guys have to figure out how to intelligently use the new gadgetry.
Working DX will still be an developing skill. Those without the
technology will moan and complain about it being unfair
Sent: 09 March 2013 10:39
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on
the
last frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and
listened for
the calling station. After I got my P3 it seemed
Doug Turnbull wrote
[... as so many are constantly calling a DX station that determining who
is supposed to be there is difficult. [...] I tend to use the P3 to find
a relatively free frequency to make my call from. [...] The P3
remains a powerful tool which I would not like to be
Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a requirement to
have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.
I think the concentration of the pile-up on the last worked station
is due as much to CW Skimmer which highlights 5NN as it is to the
P3 and other panadapters. Given the skimmer behavior,
I can not say I find the P3 is at all useful in chasing DX, NOT the fault
of the P3 of course, it's the abysmal operating procedures of those
continuously calling or replying to the DX when it's clear he is calling or
working another station. All the P3 sees is a mass of simultaneously
calling
I use both the P3 and the KRX3. P3 gives me a look at where the alligators
are so I can quickly disregard them and the few remaining pips I can
quickly check for real QSO activity. Sight and sound.
Alligators are very annoying, they also seem to be largely those with huge
signals (either they're
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
that is how I have been using the P3 as well... with great success I must say...
I wonder if they had the same conversation when the DX Cluster was first
introduced... just wondering Scott w2ntv
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
Eric
I prefer to operate CW with the receiver bandwidth very wide, AGC off and ride
the RF gain manually. With the receiver set up like this I can hear many
stations spread out and pick them off up and down the passband without having
to do much tuning. On Swains Island this technique worked quite
frequency
very long...so it's always keep moving
Jay
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Perhaps this is why
I agree. Also, too many years of using VFO B and a wide filter to track the
DX station's listening pattern.
Barry W2UP
Deni F5VJC wrote
I can not say I find the P3 is at all useful in chasing DX, NOT the fault
of the P3 of course, it's the abysmal operating procedures of those
continuously
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Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
Having been out there a few times I know I spin the dial usually after
1-2 Q's as dual receivers and other tools brings
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
Having been out there a few times I know I spin the dial usually after
1-2 Q's as dual receivers and other tools
I use the P3 to find an open spot. My best use was during the
NAQP RTTY contest when I discovered that a station from the my
last-uncontacted state (N1NK) was always beating me to the top
of the pileups. He Was tuning up, so I found a spot with the P3
just above where we were working and
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