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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 0:45 AM
To: Andrew Moore
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Why did I purchase this antenna for the KX3?
I never said
By minimalist I'm referring not to the price, but to the construction of
the antenna, if it's what people say it is.
I'm not saying people should run out and buy one; my point (and only point)
is Philip had (and enjoyed) success with something others are quick to
dismiss as junk. As Philip said,
* On 2012 30 Nov 01:13 -0600, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
The rest of the fraternity wince at seeing them spend
dollars for something that can be done for pennies.
Ironically, in other internet forums the same logic seems to be applied
to those seeking more information about Elecraft products.
BUT, if whatever particular portable antenna you choose is sufficiently
efficient for you, who am I to argue with your choice.
Absolutely right..I submitted my original comment as an actual *user* of
the Miracle Whip antenna who could describe my own personal experience with
it, rather than
True. We don't know what his limitations are, as far as erecting a
suitable antenna.
And, as the saying goes, A compromise antenna is better than a cold radio.
73 de Jim - AD6CW
On 11/29/2012 6:37 PM, Andrew Moore wrote:
I have no idea what this Miracle Whip is or what it cost, but if
You may be surprised with the results.
My Miracle Whip antenna was used by me extensively on holiday in France with
a Yaesu FT-817 and I was working all over Europe on it with 5 Watts on SSB
speech.
My best DX with the Miracle whip was indoors from home on 14 MHz when I
worked Venezuela in South
I sincerely hope nobody takes you seriously. It may radiate something,
but the manufacturer's claims for this antenna are simply ridiculous.
Dave AB7E
On 11/29/2012 3:07 PM, Philip G0ISW wrote:
You may be surprised with the results.
My Miracle Whip antenna was used by me extensively
Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Why did I purchase this antenna for the KX3?
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 2:25 PM
I sincerely hope nobody takes you seriously. It may radiate something,
but the manufacturer's claims for this antenna
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; David Gilbert
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Why did I purchase this antenna for the KX3?
Didn't I see an allband DC to Daylight portable antenna for sale in the
60-70's. It did infact radiate, but oh my the eff numbers
were that of a dummy load. You can't fool mother nature
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mel Farrer
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:38 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; David Gilbert
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Why did I purchase this antenna for the KX3?
Didn't I see an allband DC to Daylight portable antenna for sale in the
60-70's
Good for you Philip - and I hope what they take away from this is that you
can gain loads of enjoyment from seemingly minimalist setups.
That's the thrill of QRP: Doing more with less, and sometimes intentionally
putting limits on the gear to see just what you can do with almost nothing.
For
I personally would not call paying $130 for a base loaded five foot whip
without a counterpoise to be a minimalist approach, but to each his
own. If you want to intentionally put limits on the gear it would be
far cheaper (as well as more effective) to hang simply an appropriate
length of
Philip, thanks for sharing your experience with the Miracle Whip. I currently
live in an apartment and I felt really encouraged by your story.
73,
Robert-KP4Y
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Home:
Of course, the #24 wire taped to a wall in my apartment would be cheaper and my
XYL would love it. ;-)
73,
Robert-KP4Y
David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:
I personally would not call paying $130 for a base loaded five foot whip
without a counterpoise to be a minimalist approach,
I have no idea what this Miracle Whip is or what it cost, but if
Philip gained that much enjoyment from it and encouraged others,
sounds like he wins.
--Andrew
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:16 PM, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:
I personally would not call paying $130 for a base loaded
(what mfr claims is irrelevant to me)
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:16 PM, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:
I personally would not call paying $130 for a base loaded five foot whip
without a counterpoise to be a minimalist approach, but to each his own.
If you want to
Regardless of any particular user's success or failures, please indicate
the gain (or loss) with respect to an isotropic radiator (or a resonant
dipole in its greatest gain forward position).
I have heard claims of success with the Miracle Whip, and have seen a
lot of it is a miracle that it
When I travel to my New Hampshire QTH I take a PSK-20 radio and
a 20 meter dipole. I hang it between the house and a tree at
about 6 meters.
(If I had a KX3, I would be interested in a more wide-band
antenna choice. My ever patient XYL doesn't need the KX3 budget
hit after the K3 and P3
I never said that Philip shouldn't enjoy what he has. But he did
encourage others to buy that antenna, and that's the part to which I
take exception. It simply is not comparable in
performance-versus-cost-versus-portability to other options. And those
manufacturers claims that you don't
: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Why did I purchase this antenna for the KX3?
I never said that Philip shouldn't enjoy what he has. But he did
encourage others to buy that antenna, and that's the part to which I
take exception. It simply is not comparable in
performance
I think that many of us wince at the snake-oil approach saying that such
an antenna will do everything. (Snake oil was sold in the US far west in
the 1800's as a cure for everything from gout to toothache and, since it was
generally 90 proof alcohol, it usually seemed to do the job -- until after
If an appropriate piece of wire taped to the wall (even in your condo)
would work better for far less money, why not tell people that as well?
The original post in this thread came from someone with a KX3, and if he
has the tuner option I'd be very surprised if he could not load it.
But
Good afternoon, I am a very new (receive only/studying for license)
enthusiast caught up in the excitement here and for the loaded KX3 that I
have on order. Could the group please give me some kind of idea as to
whether this purchase
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamantht/5046.html was a
You may see an antenna connected to the KX3 in the photos but the radio
does NOT come with an antenna from elecraft. You must provide that part
of the system. I didn't look to see what you picked out, but if it
seems like it should work, it probably will. I'm gonna wait until the
radio
The miracle-whip antenna isn't an improved antenna over much of anything.
:) It will work but if you want an antenna that will work much better,
make sure you get the antenna tuner and use the antenna listed in the KXAT1
manual. 26' of wire connected to the center conductor of the antenna jack
It would be a miracle if this antenna worked on HF.
Without a counterpoise, ANY antenna of that size is not much more than
a dummy load when used on any HF band.
Joel - N1JEO
On 3/5/12, Jay Sissom jsis...@gmail.com wrote:
The miracle-whip antenna isn't an improved antenna over much of
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Joel Curneal jcurn...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be a miracle if this antenna worked on HF
=
Yeah, I would recommend this:
http://www.texasantennas.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=65Itemid=83
They'll never know you're QRP.
Tony KTØNY
Could use a Pomona 1296 BNC to Binding Post connector. Allows for
experimenting.
Rich
NU6T
On 3/5/2012 1:08 PM, Jay Sissom wrote:
The miracle-whip antenna isn't an improved antenna over much of anything.
:) It will work but if you want an antenna that will work much better,
make sure you
AC7AC
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Stears
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 12:02 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Why did I purchase this antenna for the KX3?
Good afternoon, I am a very new
Hi
Ron AC7AC has it right. Portable operation always presents a compromise. For
portable use I have found the Par End Fed half wave multiband 40-20-10 meter
dipole to be excellent. In November on 10 meters and 4 watts on a KX1 I have
been able to make contacts into Eastern Europe. It is
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