On 3/14/2014 5:33 AM, AD6XY wrote:
Power cuts happen, for whatever reason and we can't have them
bricking the radio, whatever it happens to be doing at the time. I am sure
Elecraft have been working on it, probably late into the night.
And THAT's the real problem. The K3 has been around long
I suppose they could install a two-button push for
power, as on the KX3, but that would bring other
complaints, I reckon -- since some KX3 users don't
like that approach -- or so I've read here.
73, Phil w7ox
On 3/19/14, 11:12 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:
On 3/14/2014 5:33 AM, AD6XY wrote:
Actually, we were totally unaware of the issue of powering off the K3 during a
tune causing problems. We are trying to reproduce it on our K3s here so we can
address it asap.
73,
Eric
elecraft.com
_..._
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Ross Primrose n...@n4rp.com wrote:
On 3/14/2014 5:33
This is what happens when people only report these things to the mailing
list instead of calling or emailing Elecraft support directly.
On 3/19/2014 3:41 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
Actually, we were totally unaware of the issue of powering off the K3 during a
tune causing
I tend to agree Eric. I have not commented yet. We need to understand what
happened with the original message in this thread and more importantly how
to prevent it. Power cuts happen, for whatever reason and we can't have them
bricking the radio, whatever it happens to be doing at the time. I am
Rule 1: NEVER use the POWER button to escape from the TUNE function. It
can cause your MCU to crash and lose its mind.
Rule 2: When reloading your MCU, make sure the 15pin ACC plug is
disconnected or the MCU will not initialize.
Rule 3: If you have your K3 all set up the way you like it, run
If this is the case, then surely it is something that can be easily addressed
in
the F/W.
i.e. if the TUNE function (or any other critical function) is taking place,
ignore presses of the Power button.
Of course, this may not help if the PowerPole connector falls out !
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On
Yes - the dreaded Power Pole plug fall out! I have had them fall out
with only the slightest of movement (factory installed). Temporary
solution is to cable tie the red/black lines to the antenna cables -
thus supporting them and preventing movement. The final fix will be the
removal of the
Hi Stewart,
There may be a firmware solution to prevent this problem but I don't think
it advisable to ever ignore the power button. The Power Button is like an
Emergency Stop button. It needs to be 100% reliable.
73,
Mike K2MK
Stewart@twinwood wrote
If this is the case, then surely it is
Careful, Bill. You're about to be flamed by the Power Pole Police! You know,
those
that insist that insist that it takes 2700 lbs of force to disconnect PPs or
that you, in
your stupidity, have assembled the connectors improperly!
I've had them come apart several times when futzing around the
I'm one of those that considers the PowerPole connector on my K3 to be a
PITA.Is there something afoot to replace it? I've considered ways
to replace it but haven't come up with anything that seems reasonable yet.
73 Jack KZ5A
On 3/13/2014 6:08 AM, Bill W2BLC wrote:
Yes - the
to install them.)
I use power poles ONLY when they can't be avoided.
73, Charlie k3ICH
- Original Message -
From: Roger D Johnson n...@roadrunner.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
Careful, Bill. You're
Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging
units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind so
arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
Each to his own I guess.
Regards,
Mike
I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my station. The
problem is that
my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter conductors.
Brushing up against
these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up, this
can result in the K3
I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3 with a
four inch or so piece of the supplied cable with the PP's in line
crimped to it using vehicle cabling crimps. Provides flexibility at the
K3 without adding any significant extra IR loss.
Regards,
Mike VP8NO
On 13/03/2014
You can get an ultra-flexible 10 ga wire that audio folks use for speaker
connections (I got a 200' roll off the evil empire). Much better than the
standard stranded wire.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
On 3/13/2014 8:05 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3
A blast from the past, look at GR Binding Posts.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
On 3/13/2014 4:47 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote:
Careful, Bill. You're about to be flamed by the Power Pole Police! You
know, those
that insist that insist that it takes 2700 lbs of force to disconnect
PPs or that you, in
your
...@horizon.co.fk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3 with a
four inch or so piece of the supplied cable with the PP's in line
crimped to it using vehicle cabling crimps. Provides flexibility
They cost about 50 cents.
Can we drop this subject now? it has been re-hashed many times.
73 - Tom - wa4ta
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:05:49 -0300
From: mike.har...@horizon.co.fk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied
Agree re firmware fix if possible. Accidental
button pushes do happen.
I guess the two-button approach on the KX3
precludes this particular disaster :-)
73, Phil w7ox
On 3/13/14, 1:28 AM, Stewart wrote:
If this is the case, then surely it is something that can be easily addressed in
the
Page 63 of the manual. if you have anything on the ACC connector it must be
removed for this to work.
On 3/13/2014 11:15 AM, bwru...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you tell me where to find the procedure just in case?
73 De Brian W3BW
Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
Leap and the net will appear.
On Mar 13,
On 3/13/2014 11:15 AM, Richard Solomon wrote:
You can get an ultra-flexible 10 ga wire that audio folks use for speaker
connections (I got a 200' roll off the evil empire). Much better than the
standard stranded wire.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
Why bother? The difference in resistance between #12 and
I think that I would be rather miffed, if in the middle of a contest or worse
an
expensive DXpedition the power went off (PowerPole or not) and I found the K3
software settings corrupted.
Most early computers monitored the power rails and shut down gracefully.
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Thu, 13 Mar
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Harris
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:52 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when
.
Bill
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Harris
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:52 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
Not a flame just a simple power pole
Dick,
Which transceiver?
73,
Don W3FPR
On 3/12/2014 11:14 PM, Dick Frey wrote:
I was in the Tune mode. I accidently hit the Power button to exit. The
display went blank. Now nothing works. Removing power and restart with
Power button gets the blank screen. Help!
Dick, K4xu
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