Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-14 Thread David Gilbert
As a supplier of components, it was often true that it was difficult to get designed in with a sole sourced device, but that "rule" was violated over and over again.  Sometimes customers were blindsided by design engineers who somehow sneaked sole sourced devices into their system (not every

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-13 Thread Bill Frantz
Not being a hardware guy I may be a bit confused, but my vague memory from the 1980s, is that manufacturers of that era would not use a part that didn't have a second source. This and other posts indicate that this policy no longer exists. Too bad. It might help with all kinds of supply

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-12 Thread David Gilbert
I used to do the same thing.  If we had somehow gotten a customer dependent upon a part that was virtually impossible to make, and if he promised not to design it into any new products, and if his volume requirements were limited enough, I would just have my folks make a special run and give

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-11 Thread Jeff Stai
Continuing the OT parade, I have one. When I first joined the ASIC team at Western Digital I was assigned to complete a SCSI interface chip and get it into manufacturing. It was a design that they had decided not to produce... except for the fact that one frisky salesman sold it to an passenger

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-11 Thread Alan
My experience with lifetime buys was at HP/Agilent.  They would only do such a buy when the manufacturer announced a part discontinuance.  You then figure out how many parts you need for the expected product lifetime plus spares for future repairs and buy that many to put in stores. It's  a

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-11 Thread Fred Jensen
It is dependent on scale, David.  The USAF flies large fleets of a number of different A/C and has in-place materiel warehousing and distribution facilities.  They also have extensive records on "requirements," the failure rate of components.  So, for them, and some civilian A/C maintenance

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/7/2020 12:34 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> I check my e-mail several times a day.  And I check my SPAM filter >> once every day.  In the world we live in, nothing is perfect. > > Same here. Having had a career that ran on messaging and memos starting from the telegram, Telex and TWX eras, I do

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-10 Thread David Gilbert
That makes zero sense. What are you going to make a "Lifetime Buy" on?  A synth?  A front panel?  A tuner?  You might as well buy a second (or third) rig since you don't have a clue what might fail in the future, and if you buy all those things separately (or worse yet the individual

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-10 Thread Craig Smith
Great post Wes 73 Craig AC0DS > On 10, Mar2020, at 9:40 PM, Wes wrote: > > Before I retired the second time I was managing a small group of components > engineers. Several of my guys worked full time on parts obsolescence issues. > "Lifetime buys" sound like a good idea until you run

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-10 Thread Wes
Before I retired the second time I was managing a small group of components engineers.  Several of my guys worked full time on parts obsolescence issues.  "Lifetime buys" sound like a good idea until you run up against the procurement and QC people.  Try managing inventory of pricey Mil-spec

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-10 Thread David Gilbert
Of course you can.  Both. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.XMC68000.TRS0&_nkw=MC68000&_sacat=0

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-10 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/7/2020 5:02 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > See if you can find a Moto 68000 replacement for your old Mac. [:=) I'll bet that you can still find a 6146 tube for 100-watt class amplifiers! 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Hi Lee, We definitely do! :-) If you emailed later on Friday afternoon or over the weekend, their response can be delayed on Mondays as they work their way through the weekend backlog. Also our CS team was hit hard by the seasonal flu (-not- the Corona virus..) the last two weeks and was

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-08 Thread Neil Zampella
Exactly Jim.   Elecraft had to discontinue their 60 meter adapter (K60XV) for the K2 as a key part is no longer available, and it would require a major board change to continue providing the same functionality. Evidently they no longer sell enough of that option to make it fiscally possible.

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Rick Bates, NK7I
And there is a Murphy corollary that basically says: "If the part is stockpiled, it won't be the part that is needed." Rick NK7I On 3/7/2020 12:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/7/2020 11:15 AM, Alan wrote: Just as we were ready to go into production the part was discontinued.  I had to scramble

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Fred Jensen
You can always emulate the US Department of Defense if you'd like ... it's called a "Lifetime Buy."  When the airplane builder's contract finally ends and he no longer is required to stock parts, the engineers and logistics folks decide on the further lifetime of the airplane fleet and buy

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread K2bew
The coronavirus is severely limiting what parts companies are getting out of China right now. Tom k2bew On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 15:47 Jim Brown wrote: > On 3/7/2020 11:15 AM, Alan wrote: > > Just as we were ready to go into production the part was discontinued. > > I had to scramble to figure out

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/7/2020 11:15 AM, Alan wrote: Just as we were ready to go into production the part was discontinued. I had to scramble to figure out some other means to perform the function (which meant a PC board turn). Yes, and for Elecraft, that's a significant expense for a vintage product. The

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/7/2020 11:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: I check my e-mail several times a day.  And I check my SPAM filter once every day.  In the world we live in, nothing is perfect. Same here. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
I called Elecraft Support yesterday morning. They returned the call yesterday afternoon. 73 -- Lynn On 3/7/20 11:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: I check my e-mail several times a day.  And I check my SPAM filter once every day.  In the world we live in, nothing is perfect. 73 Bob, K4TAX

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I check my e-mail several times a day.  And I check my SPAM filter once every day.  In the world we live in, nothing is perfect. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 3/7/2020 1:04 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/7/2020 10:42 AM, W6IPA . wrote: It seems also that stock

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Alan
On 3/7/20 10:52 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Manufacturers live in the real world, and can only buy parts that are manufactured by other companies. When those other companies discontinue a part, alternative sources must be found, and that sometimes isn't easy, Some years ago when I worked for HP,

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/7/2020 10:42 AM, W6IPA . wrote: It seems also that stock is drying up on K3/K3S parts - and I wonder if this is temporary or a sign that the legendary upgradability of K3 or K3S is over. Manufacturers live in the real world, and can only buy parts

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/7/2020 10:42 AM, W6IPA . wrote: It seems also that stock is drying up on K3/K3S parts - and I wonder if this is temporary or a sign that the legendary upgradability of K3 or K3S is over. Manufacturers live in the real world, and can only buy parts that are manufactured by other

Re: [Elecraft] Where is Elecraft Support ?

2020-03-07 Thread W6IPA .
It seems also that stock is drying up on K3/K3S parts - and I wonder if this is temporary or a sign that the legendary upgradability of K3 or K3S is over. W6IPA/jc On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 10:30 AM Leroy Buller wrote: > Does Elecraft still have a support department or have they all move to K4 >