[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 37, Issue 22

2007-05-11 Thread David Ferrington
They did, not just not what like and when On 11/5/07 09:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: If Elecraft announces a high-performance panadaptor with external LCD display support that should just about seal the deal ;) -- The trees that are slow to grow bear the best fruit.

Re: [Elecraft] What K3 rx/tx Modes?

2007-05-11 Thread g4ilo
I think it does all of those (not sure about WFM though) plus RTTY / data modes of course. But as I understand it you need to order an AM filter to transmit AM and an FM filter to transmit FM. Not quite sure why you need the FM filter to *transmit* FM, as FM is usually generated using a

[Elecraft] psk31 with the K2-100

2007-05-11 Thread Peter Boereboom
Hello, Why is there a difference in audio bandwidth between the 20 and 40 meter band using PSK31. For both bands you have to use USB and I use the same XFIL and AFIL!!! Frequency for PSK31 is e.g. 7035.15 kHz or 14070.15 kHz. Regards, 73 Peter Boereboom PA1PB

[Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread J F
Geoff Gian, To play devil's advocate (I'm decent in this role), if the H-mode mixers is as simple and as effective as you both suggest. Why hasn't it been more widely adopted? For the most part, I've seen a couple mixers boards and mostly references to homebrew building, but nothing in the way

[Elecraft] F.S. N2PK Vector Network Analyzer

2007-05-11 Thread Dale Parfitt
I have an N2PK VNA board set (VNA and directional coupler) that was factory built (all SMD). All it requires is mounting in an enclosure and supplying the RF connectors. http://n2pk.com/index.html Paul's design has capabilities well beyond the Ten Tec and Array Solutions units. I have a new

RE: [Elecraft] Yaesu FT-2000 v K-3?

2007-05-11 Thread Darwin, Keith
100 watts vs. 200 watts. 3 dB of gain. I think it does more for the operators ego confidence than it does for their signal. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to

[Elecraft] K3 versus FT2K

2007-05-11 Thread J F
Barry, I wonder about this and the Orions that seem to be on the second hand market so close to the initial offering. That usually speaks of poor performance and/or other issues (including warranty service). Certainly any new product has the potential for having issues, how the manufacturer

[Elecraft] toroid leads

2007-05-11 Thread Terry Wilkinson
Just a quick comment on stripping/tinning of toroid leads... I've built the Norcal40A, K1, and K2, all without tinning the toroid leads (I do make certain that the leads are scrupulously free of enamel). All three rigs work great. Maybe the reason I get away without tinning the leads is that I

Re: [Elecraft] toroid leads

2007-05-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Terry, Congratulations on your success, but not everyone is so fortunate, witness to that fact is the number of toroid leads that I have to re-strip and tin in the radios that I repair. What you are doing is tinning the leads in-place, nothing wrong with that but one must observe carefully

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hi Julius, It might have something to do with Intellectual Title, but not being well versed in such matters I could well be wrong. I have read very recently that the H-Mode is being used in a new receiver for military use, and I know that Rhode Schwarz use a very similar mixer in one of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 versus FT2K

2007-05-11 Thread Joseph Trombino Jr
- Original Message - From: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 versus FT2K Barry, I wonder about this and the Orions that seem to be on the second hand market so

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Giancarlo Moda
Hi Julius and Geoff and all. Thanks again for your notes. I hope to be clear on all of them. I will reply to both Geoff and Julius notes and these will match Geoff comments/questions (I hope). --- Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Julius, It might have something

Re: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 37, Issue 22

2007-05-11 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Hi David Just out of curiousity, have you experimented with receiving loops at all? On 160m, I pretty much have to receive on a loop, as my vertical is very noisy in this neighborhood. There is a tremendous wealth of info about loop antennas on the web. I have three loops. One tuned loop for 160m

[Elecraft] K3 - First IF

2007-05-11 Thread gregory . beat
AM i the first person to notice that the 8215 kHz IF is the same as the Yaesu FT-1000 (and FT-102). The original FT-102 Japanese designer later designed the FT-1000. Why do I think Doug DeMaw, W1FB (sk) is smiling about this? (Who commented in his review -- that the FT-102 was best receiver

Re: [Elecraft] Yaesu FT-2000 v K-3?

2007-05-11 Thread Vic K2VCO
Darwin, Keith wrote: 100 watts vs. 200 watts. 3 dB of gain. I think it does more for the operators ego confidence than it does for their signal. I believe that the 200 watt version of the FT-2000 has a class-A mode of operation for SSB, which provides 75 watts output with much better IMD

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - First IF

2007-05-11 Thread Vic K2VCO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AM i the first person to notice that the 8215 kHz IF is the same as the Yaesu FT-1000 (and FT-102). The original FT-102 Japanese designer later designed the FT-1000. No, you're not! One of the consequences of this is that there is a selection of INRAD filters

[Elecraft] Re: K3 - First IF

2007-05-11 Thread wayne burdick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AM i the first person to notice that the 8215 kHz IF is the same as the Yaesu FT-1000 (and FT-102). The original FT-102 Japanese designer later designed the FT-1000. Why do I think Doug DeMaw, W1FB (sk) is smiling about this? (Who commented in his review -- that

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread J F
Hi Geoff, It seems strange to me that it lingers more on the fringes than moving into the mainstream. If it's been around for 15 or more years, one would think something could have been negotiated regarding any intellectual rights. It certainly sounds interesting based on what I've read. 'Twould

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - First IF

2007-05-11 Thread W2AGN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AM i the first person to notice that the 8215 kHz IF is the same as the Yaesu FT-1000 (and FT-102). The original FT-102 Japanese designer later designed the FT-1000. Why do I think Doug DeMaw, W1FB (sk) is smiling about this? (Who commented in his review -- that

[Elecraft] toroid leads

2007-05-11 Thread Fred (FL)
A real concern might be building a rig with silver solder. From all I've heard, the benefits do not outweigh the problems - using silver solder can create. IMHO - I stayed away from it, and used Kester tin/antimony/lead solder . Fred, N3CSY . shame won't be able to use any in my K3 kit

[Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread
I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS frequencies. Without this capability, I won't/can't consider owning a K-3. I am the Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250 members in my region could use Elecraft without this capability. Lee Bahr w0vt (AFF4C)

Re: [Elecraft] K3 versus FT2K

2007-05-11 Thread J F
Hi Joe, What was explained to me was firmware/software issues, primarily. Not being an owner, I can't say. Certainly the TT crowd is as rabid about TT equipment as we Elecraft are about ours ;o) I know the OMNI series is still sought after. I used an FT1000 and can't say that it impressed me. I

[Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread wayne burdick
Hi Lee, MARS capability is planned for the K3. 73, Wayne N6KR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS frequencies. Without this capability, I won't/can't consider owning a K-3. I am the Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250

Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread FISCHER,GREG
Hi Lee, This is from the FAQ page. I don't think you will have anything to worry about. Will the K3 operate on MARS frequencies? The K3 may be operated outside the Amateur bands, but this capability is prevented by firmware. We have not yet worked out the mechanism, but we fully intend to

[Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread
This is wonderful news, Wayne. I know you hinted in an earlier post this would be considered. It is a really important feature/capability. FYI there has been some talk about MARS having to meet stricter requirements the old NTIA requirements but our Air Force MARS Chief has backed off of them

Re: [Elecraft] Yaesu FT-2000 v K-3?

2007-05-11 Thread Sam Morgan
Darwin, Keith wrote: 100 watts vs. 200 watts. 3 dB of gain. I think it does more for the operators ego confidence than it does for their signal. perhaps this might be better understood if we look at it from the idea of we are running qrp 5w now for some reason you want/need to get that

Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Fri, 11 May 2007, wrote: I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS frequencies. Without this capability, I won't/can't consider owning a K-3. I am the Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250 members in my region could use Elecraft without this capability. I

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread J F
Hi Gian, The H-Mode Mixer (3 transformers) using both SD5000 and FST3125, referred to the TRIAD (W7AAZ, W4ZCB and G3SBI) is reported in the ARRL Book EMRF Design. Perhaps I missed these, been reading more about antennas than Rx design, particularly if it was SDR. Mea Culpa here...

RE: [Elecraft] Yaesu FT-2000 v K-3?

2007-05-11 Thread Darwin, Keith
Well, db = 10 * log(p2/p1) 5w to 200w is actually +16 dB 100w to 1000w is +10 dB But hey, it's the thought that counts :-) -Original Message- From: Sam Morgan lots of difference between 5w to 200w = 18+db as compared to 100w to 1000w = 9+db hope I did the math correctly ;-/

[Elecraft] Return to the list + K3 panoramic adapter

2007-05-11 Thread A.K.Forrest
Dear All, have been off the list for a couple of years but have been using my K2/100 as my only rig, mainly psk31. The K3 has brought me back to see what's going on. Its probably a bit late to make suggestions for the K3 and anyway the relatively minor problems I have had with the K2 and

Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread FISCHER,GREG
Found this in google... Typical MARS Frequencies, take a listen. - MARS Member stations meet periodically in scheduled networks on military frequencies outside of the amateur bands. There are various types of networks and each accomplishes a specific goal. For example, Administrative

Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread W2AGN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS frequencies. Without this capability, I won't/can't consider owning a K-3. I am the Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250 members in my region could use Elecraft without this capability. Lee

RE: [Elecraft] Yaesu FT-2000 v K-3?

2007-05-11 Thread Dan Barker
And more importantly, 5w to 100w is 13db. 13db is pretty close to 16dbg (Close, as in horseshoes and Atom Bombs). Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darwin, Keith Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:08 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE:

RE: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Dan Barker
My very first Field Day was using the call AA4U for the CW tent. (Omni C, upside down Bencher for the southpaw, etc.). Interesting. I wonder what else in a call makes it MARS vs Southeast Amateur Extra? Dan / WG4S snip You can identify NAVMARCORMARS Stations by their NNNĂ˜ prefix. Army MARS

RE: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Doug Smith
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 13:36 -0400, Dan Barker wrote: My very first Field Day was using the call AA4U for the CW tent. (Omni C, upside down Bencher for the southpaw, etc.). Interesting. I wonder what else in a call makes it MARS vs Southeast Amateur Extra? Actually, I think the ARMY MARS

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hi Julius, J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems strange to me that it lingers more on the fringes than moving into the mainstream. If it's been around for 15 or more years, one would think something could have been negotiated regarding any intellectual rights. I think that it has, but not

[Elecraft] Wish list: K3 panoramic adapter

2007-05-11 Thread Toby Deinhardt
What I have always missed is a graphic display showing me the RX spectrum (Panadapter) with band map information from the contest logging software (WinTest) imposed on the spectrum. Ideally all on the same computer screen... vy 73 de toby ___

[Elecraft] Re: MARS (OT, not K3)

2007-05-11 Thread Mike Morrow
Thom wrote: I remember trying to find out what frequencies the various MARS programs used in order to determine if I could use the K2 to checkit. My emails explained why I was asking. Army Mars never answered... AirForce Mars told me they couldn't give me the frequencies due to security.

Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Jozef Hand-Boniakowski
Indeed they did. My Navy MARS callsign used to be N0HNG. Jozef WB2MIc Bob Nielsen wrote: The MARS callsigns have changed a bit over the years. At one time they used prefixes which are now allocated to amateur radio. Bob, N7XY ex- AF6SWE - Air Force Mars (~1954), N0KHM - Navy Mars (~1968)

Re: [Elecraft] MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Mike Morrow
The MARS callsigns have changed a bit over the years. At one time they used prefixes which are now allocated to amateur radio. All the 1x3 and 2x3 ham-call format call signs that were being used by the military services (including but not limited to MARS calls) were abandoned in the

[Elecraft] Loaded K2 For Sale - Lower Price

2007-05-11 Thread Don Nesbitt
Hi - I've had lots of responses to my original post - basically configuration questions and offers to buy the KDSP2, KAT100 or the KPA100 separately - but - no one has yet to commit to buy it as a complete package and I really, really, really don't want to disembowel my baby! I've got the K3 on

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Giancarlo Moda
Hi Julius, --- J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gian, The H-Mode Mixer (3 transformers) using both SD5000 and FST3125, referred to the TRIAD (W7AAZ, W4ZCB and G3SBI) is reported in the ARRL Book EMRF Design. Perhaps I missed these, been reading more about antennas than Rx design,

[Elecraft] K3 - Multiple Concurrent Filters?

2007-05-11 Thread Fred (FL)
With the expected wide range of ROOFING, and GC filters to be offered for the K3 - how many filter spots are available, to physically install filters into the K3? Can we have a GC, ROOFING CW, ROOFING FM, and ROOFING SSB - or GC/SSB/CW/FM filters all concurrently installed somewhere inside the

[Elecraft] Re: Improvement changes to K2 and K1 transceivers

2007-05-11 Thread G3XDY
I have not seen anyone ask yet for the way the frequency changes when switching from SSB to CW to be changed. I want to be able to call CQ on SSB, hear a weak station calling on CW and switch to CW to return the call without having to retune. This is a fairly common scenario when using the K2 for

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 11, 2007, at 5:37 AM, J F wrote: Geoff Gian, To play devil's advocate (I'm decent in this role), if the H-mode mixers is as simple and as effective as you both suggest. Why hasn't it been more widely adopted? And just to confuse things even more, what about the Tayloe mixer? 73 de

[Elecraft] K3 - Multiple Concurrent Filters?

2007-05-11 Thread Fred (FL)
With the expected wide range of ROOFING, FM, and GC filters to be offered for the K3 - how many filter spots are available, to physically install filters into the K3? Can we have a GC, ROOFING CW, ROOFING FM, and ROOFING SSB - or GC/SSB/CW/FM filters all concurrently installed somewhere inside

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Multiple Concurrent Filters?

2007-05-11 Thread FISCHER,GREG
Fred, Each receiver has 5 crystal IF filter slots. When shipped, a 2.7 kHz filter is included, leaving 4 more slots available. This includes the main receiver and the optional subreceiver as they are of the same design. These IF crystal filters are not mode dependent...meaning you can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 versus FT2K

2007-05-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 11, 2007, at 8:25 AM, Joseph Trombino Jr wrote: Compare the Orion receiver specs against the IC7800 and the FT9000 on the Sherwood web site and see what I am talking aboutthe K2 doesn't do too band either (bigger grin). I have applied to the ARRL for an ETP (Education

Re: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 37, Issue 22

2007-05-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 11, 2007, at 8:48 AM, Robert Tellefsen wrote: which is aimed at New York. Info on the Flag loop can be found at http://www.angelfire.com/md/k3ky/page37.html The links on the page seem to be stale. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com

[Elecraft] dB conversions (was: Yaesu FT-2000 v K-3?)

2007-05-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 11, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: lots of difference between 5w to 200w = 18+db 16dB 5x2=10 (+3dB) 10x2=20 (+3dB) 20x10=200 (+10dB) as compared to 100w to 1000w = 9+db 10dB x2 = 3dB x2.5 = 4dB x4 = 6dB x5 = 7dB x8 = 9dB x10 = 10dB If you know that x2 = 3dB and x10 = 10dB

Re: [Elecraft] Yaesu FT-2000 v K-3?

2007-05-11 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 5/11/07 12:57:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Darwin, Keith wrote: 100 watts vs. 200 watts. 3 dB of gain. I think it does more for the operators ego confidence than it does for their signal. Sometimes, that's enough. However, there's another

Re: [Elecraft] Re: Improvement changes to K2 and K1 transceivers

2007-05-11 Thread Bill W5WVO
John, myself and somebody else requested this feature specifically for VHF/UHF work. (This SSB CW SSB scenario is also very common on 6M, not just microwave bands.) I was told that they would put it on the firmware request list. I was assured that there is nothing in the K3's hardware

Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
You are right on both. I have missed HamRadio .. it died when it was sold to 73 ... a no technology booklet... Hey! I resent that! I wrote the Packet Talk column for 73 around 1988/1989. I tried to ensure that it had some useful technical content! (Just kidding. No offense taken. :-) 73 de

[Elecraft] Ham Radio (was H mode mixer)

2007-05-11 Thread Augie Hansen
... You are right on both. I have missed HamRadio .. it died when it was sold to 73 ... a no technology booklet... If memory serves, sometime after Jim Fisk's death, Ham Radio was obtained by CQ Communications and became the basis of Communications Quarterly. More recently, I believe, what

Re: [Elecraft] Ham Radio Magazine

2007-05-11 Thread Ken Kopp
You aree correct. It was NOT sold to Waynes Green's 73 Magazine. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] K2 S/N 5665 K3 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info

[Elecraft] KPA100/KAT100 for sale

2007-05-11 Thread Robert Brown
Selling mint KPA100/KAT100-1, expertly built by KD5NDB, Don Brown (see Builders for Hire list), in an EC-2 case, + all cables needed for hookup to your K2 - $635 (shipped CONUS) (less than the cost of the kits). Selling to underwrite - you guessed it, a K3! ;) 72/73 de N1CVX, Bob Brown

Re: [Elecraft] Tayloe mixer, was H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Sverre Holm
WB6QRN wrote: And just to confuse things even more, what about the Tayloe mixer? I don't know about the H-mode mixer, but the Tayloe mixer has been patented by Motorola. Product detector and method therefor was filed in 1998 and granted in 2001 as US patent 6,230,000. See

Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Doug Person
Interesting to see some old Navy Mars call signs. Been a long time... Doug - K0DXV - Ex-Navy Mars N0EOC Bob Nielsen wrote: The MARS callsigns have changed a bit over the years. At one time they used prefixes which are now allocated to amateur radio. Bob, N7XY ex- AF6SWE - Air Force Mars

[Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread John Harper
Interesting to see some old Navy Mars call signs. Been a long time... Doug - K0DXV - Ex-Navy Mars N0EOC You can work a few tomorrow (Saturday, May 12): http://www.w4ap.org/documents/ARMED_FORCES_DAY__2007_1.pdf John Harper AE5X http://www.ae5x.com

Re: [Elecraft] Tayloe mixer, was H mode mixer

2007-05-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 11, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Sverre Holm wrote: WB6QRN wrote: And just to confuse things even more, what about the Tayloe mixer? I don't know about the H-mode mixer, but the Tayloe mixer has been patented by Motorola. Product detector and method therefor was filed in 1998 and granted

[Elecraft] K1 Filter Board Resistance Checks

2007-05-11 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
I have completed soldering the components for the K1 2 band filter board, but when I performed the resistance checks, there was a problem. XX - U1 pin 6, U1 pin 7 230-270 ohms --- 100k XX - U1 pin 6, U1 pin 8 230-270 ohms --- 100k XX - U1 pin 6, U1 pin 12 230-270 ohms --- 100k XX - U1 pin 13, P2