Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Guy, K2AV wrote: If the Elecraft guys want to do something serious and high speed, then let them use the Ethernet jack. I'd like to see an ethernet interface module option so I can directly remote to it from a computer. Or an 811g wireless module for the same purpose. I can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread dj7mgq
I think something like this could be developed as a small standalone box using a board that runs embedded Linux. It would have Ethernet on one side running Apache for the web interface, and serial plus audio connections on the other. You might want to take a look at http://www.ethernut.de/. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Doug, From a European perspective, and this is a personal opinion, while the 3rd Order dynamic range performance at 2kHz is certainly very important, it is the Spurious Free 3rd Order dynamic range at spacings less than the IF bandwidth that really matters, i.e. both test signals INSIDE the IF

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread dj7mgq
I understand that the present bar for in-passband Spurious Free 3rd Order dynamic range is 120db, set in 2007, but not on the market. You are, I think, referring to http://www.xs4all.nl/~martein/pa3ake/hmode/ and the work done by CDG2000 group. Imho, Martein's site is really worth

[Elecraft] HRD now running

2009-06-17 Thread OE5CSP-Chris
OE5CSP-Chris wrote: We habe been trying to use HRD with the K3 but the program shuts down after some seconds. I use Windows Vista. The K3 is connected to the program in the beginning(I can read the K3´s frequency), but then stops working(blue screen). We believe that the USB to serial

[Elecraft] N8Q/m West Virginia QSO Party

2009-06-17 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Hello All, We will be running QRP mobile in the WVQP this weekend with K3 #1875. The first few counties may be a bit challenging due to the topography, so bear with us. N8Q/m will be running as follows: Wayne Mingo Logan Boone Lincoln Kanawha (may not stop for CW) Jackson (same as above) Wood

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Toby dj7...@muenchen-mail.de wrote: You are, I think, referring to http://www.xs4all.nl/~martein/pa3ake/hmode/ and the work done by CDG2000 group. Imho, Martein's site is really worth reading. Hi Toby, Yes, followed by a large spurious free IMDDR3 IF system whose noise figure is 2db. 73,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit and receive audio response

2009-06-17 Thread Barry N1EU
The low end response of the stock K3 is limited by coupling capacitor impedance in the audio stage. 73, Barry N1EU Lyle Johnson wrote: What I would like to know is just what the ACTUAL response curves of the K3 transmit and receive audio are (when all EQ settings are set to '0',

Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmit and receive audio response

2009-06-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The low end response of the stock K3 is limited by coupling capacitor impedance in the audio stage. Only in regard to the headphone amplifier when used with low impedance (8 Ohm) headphones. With the stock 10 uF caps the -3dB point (corner frequency) for 8 Ohm headphones is 2 KHz.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Paul Christensen
Two weeks ago, in my friend's shack I compared K3,IC7700,IC7800(by ear ONLY), since there are no major contest in that day, so I can't say anything about dynamic range or something like that. IMHO, ic7700's DSP is best, 7800 DSP also better than K3. [A/B compare NR NB and DSP filter

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
I picked up a microham USB Interface II this past weekend. It has a cable for a FT1000. I would assume all that needs to be done to make this work with a K3 is provide the appropriate connector adapters (versus spending $65+ for the K3 cable). Has anyone done this? Any caveats? Thanks, Julius

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Greg - AB7R
Hi Julius! Best thing to do is to go to the MicroHam website and compare the two wiring diagrams for the two cables. When I modified an Orion cable for the K3 I had to change some jumper wires on the inside of the DB37 assembly as well as a few other changes. It's not just the connectors.

Re: [Elecraft] N8Q/m West Virginia QSO Party

2009-06-17 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
Julius: Any 10 meter CW contemplated? In recent weeks 10 meters is open between southern Appalachia and W1/W2 most evenings between 2300 and 2400Z (and maybe other times as well). 73, Steve AA4AK/1 Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: Hello All, We will be running QRP mobile in the WVQP this

Re: [Elecraft] N8Q/m West Virginia QSO Party

2009-06-17 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Steve, If I can load up the antenna on 10 (will check tonight if the weather holds) I will certainly give it a go, if time permits. Same goes for SSB during the day... I need WV on 10 and RTTY too... too bad I can't work myself *hihi* Will listen for ya! 72, Julius Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Hi Greg, Thanks! I looked on their site and didn't see the link to the wiring diagrams. Will look closer this time. Figured I'd try it out, although I'm happy with my current interfaces. hope you're doing well! 73, Julius Gregory Fischer wrote: Hi Julius! Best thing to do is to go to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread dj7mgq
Thanks! I looked on their site and didn't see the link to the wiring diagrams. Will look closer this time. Figured I'd try it out, although I'm happy with my current interfaces. Here they are: http://www.microham.com/contents/en-us/d145.html vy 73 de toby

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Jeff Kinzli
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 07:13, Paul Christensenw...@arrl.net wrote: Two weeks ago, in my friend's shack I compared K3,IC7700,IC7800(by ear ONLY), since there are no major contest in that day, so I can't say anything about dynamic range or something like that. IMHO, ic7700's DSP is best, 7800

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power consumption

2009-06-17 Thread JIM DAVIS
Wayne, Thanks for putting up with all of everybody's sometimes great ideas and then some others who always seem to push you and Elecraft more towards the ABYSS!!! Your crew did create a Great Box in the guise of the K3, but it'll be a never ending struggle because there's a lot of guys out

[Elecraft] microHam USB Interface II Cable

2009-06-17 Thread Bob DeHaney
If it's a newer one, they are potted. 73, Bob DJ0MBC/WU5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The cable model number on the cables page for each interface is a link to the schematic. As far as the USB Interface II and the K3, you can ignore the audio functions as the USB II only provides isolation transformers and the K3's line out is already isolated. With the K3 and USB II you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Julius Fazekas
Thanks Joe... After looking it over more, it seems like the only advantage is it will operate from one USB port versus two Serial Ports... Which may be useful with a laptop or new destop w/o serial ports. May not have this long. 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group

Re: [Elecraft] KX1 high power

2009-06-17 Thread WA6L
Hi, Ed, I don’t know if I have any helpful input, but I have some input nonetheless. First of all, what type of batteries are you using? Have you measured the voltage of your battery pack under load? That would be my first troubleshooting step. Secondly, I have noticed on my KX1 that 20M

[Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread gard
Hi   I'm really hesitant about challenging such an accepted authority as AC7AC on any topic.  But I think he is incorrect when he says blue light provides the greatest visual acuity.   A simple experiment (which I have seen performed) can confirm this.  Project a graded black and white

[Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Greg Buhyoff
Alan is correct. The human visual system is most sensitive to green and acuity is best in the green portion of the light spectrum. Information extraction and acuity is actually worse in the blue part of the spectrum due to refractive and scattering phenomena in the eye. I won't go into details

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread gdaught6
Alan wrote... I'm really hesitant about challenging such an accepted authority as AC7AC on any topic.  But I think he is incorrect when he says blue light provides the greatest visual acuity. If I recall correctly, the human eye is most sensitive in the yellow-green part of the

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Interesting experiment, Alan. I've not tried it but a little research backs you up! One source (University of Illinois Dept. of Physics) says The blue-sensitive cones are the least numerous, and are also spread out away from the fovea. This is one reason why it is harder to get a sharp visual

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Monty Shultes
Would there be any difference between emitted light and reflected light? Monty K2DLJ If I recall correctly, the human eye is most sensitive in the yellow-green part of the spectrum... 565 nanometers is the peak, but that doesn't necessarily mean greatest visual acuity I guess.

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Brendan Minish
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 12:24 -0700, gdaug...@stanford.edu wrote: Alan wrote... If I recall correctly, the human eye is most sensitive in the yellow-green part of the spectrum... 565 nanometers is the peak, but that doesn't necessarily mean greatest visual acuity I guess. As someone with

[Elecraft] Blue Displays and Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Greg Buhyoff
George, yes, perceptual sensitivity is highest at the peak you note and is in the yellow/green part of the light spectrum. I meant to say sensitive rather than acuity in my lead-in sentence. Acuity is a function of more than the color of the light, per se and depends upon background lighting and

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Steve Ellington
For long periods of exposure, like the front panel of a radio, it seems like one would prefer a color that is easy on the eyes and not glaring. Green and orange are bit tiring while soft blue is soothing. Next, we need plenty of contrast so we can see the numbers. Here's where we have trouble.

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Eric Fitzgerald
From the artistic side of color theory, I know both red and blue are low value colors - value being light/dark. I suspect this is simply because of their proximity to the edges of the visual spectrum. 73 de Eric, KG6MZS On Jun 17, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Interesting

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Anybody remember the first CRT computer terminals? They used GREEN characters. Later amber was prettier, but the green ones were first, maybe for a reason. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: Brendan Minish ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com To: gdaug...@stanford.edu Cc:

[Elecraft] Connecting a K3, Ten Tec Hercules II and Ten Tec 311 Band Data Decoder?

2009-06-17 Thread Eric Rosenberg
Has anyone used this combination? If so, how did you hook it all up? Thanks! Eric W3DQ Washington, DC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Commodore supposedly chose two tone blue for that very reason for their Commodore 64 screen, because it was a soothing color combination. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com To: Monty Shultes mon...@mindspring.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Kok Chen
In the human fovea (where all the resolving mechanism is), there are fewer S-cones (blue sensitivity) than there are M-cones (green) and L- cones (red). Quoting Malacara (Color Vision and Colorimetry:Theory and Applications, ISBN 0-8194-4228-3): [the Blue S-cones] do not contribute to

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] TX blocked

2009-06-17 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: It is the individual ham's responsibility for all rig modifications they make and to insure that they operate within their license limitations. One concern I have about this is that some people may not be running a spectrum analyser on the output, or

Re: [Elecraft] K-2 Blue Display

2009-06-17 Thread Fred Jensen
Dave G4AON wrote: I guess what I am suggesting is that some of the modern blue LEDs can be awful to look at, while I like the older blue displays, I personally wouldn't expend any time or money changing the K2 illumination to blue. I have monochrome vision and a decreased sensitivity at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600

2009-06-17 Thread Igor Sokolov
Julius, I did not have Interface II. I have chosen Microkeyer II instead because it has got built in sound card and Winkeyer. I use both. I originally ordered the cable for IC7000 and then built my own cable for K3. Anyway please note that it is pretty difficult to make the cable of such a

[Elecraft] TX inhibit

2009-06-17 Thread Igor Sokolov
We are using pair of K3 in WRTC style competition. Since the requirement there is only one signal at any given moment we are using external lock out on PTT lines. The problem with this arrangement is that if one of the PTT line is disabled by lock out and operator starts to TX, he will still

Re: [Elecraft] K-2 Blue Display

2009-06-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes, the blue of sunlight is comparative. Those who work with photography (or videography) thinks of it as blue because that's what it is compared to incandescent - even the big halogen incandescents we used to use in studios - just like fluorescents were bright green. It's amazing how our

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity [END of Thread]

2009-06-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We're drifting pretty far OT. Let' s end this thread for now. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator _..._ -Original Message- From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net Date: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 12:52 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity To: