Re: [Elecraft] normal K3 voltage drop on TX

2015-08-22 Thread Edward R Cole
I agree with Bob, but as 45-years experience has taught me. Properly crimped bright new copper wire is fine. Take a look several years later (also compare contact resistance; probably best measured as voltage drop under load). If you live in the desert where humidity never rises above 25%

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Problem Solved!!!!

2015-08-22 Thread Vic Rosenthal
Glad it works, but this is strange. I always do firmware updates with the P3 in line. Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO On Aug 22, 2015, at 2:46 AM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote: Well, it seems that the prolific cables do work with windows 10 and the K3. Evidently you can't connect the cable to the P3 and

[Elecraft] PS question answered - tnx to all!

2015-08-22 Thread Charles Yahrling
I got great info including some actual measurements from W4BQF that jived with mine, once I took corrective action by shortening the power lead and eliminating the dual fuses. Findings: - starting T/S by eliminating the simplest (and most notorious) suspect is still a great idea - I was

Re: [Elecraft] P3TXMON Question?

2015-08-22 Thread Edward R Cole
When I need to know accurate power readings my best instrument is either scope and good 50-ohm termination, or using my HP432A mw power meter. Its about 1/2 dB accurate. But +10mw is the highest scale so you need several high power coaxial attenuators to measure power. 40dB will permit

Re: [Elecraft] P3 1.34/SVGA 1.21 BETA Firmware available

2015-08-22 Thread mike
Thanks for all the suggestion on and off list. It is not an issue of not know which file or where to find it, rather I am not able to get to the Elecraft ftp site. Clearly the problem is on my end of it. Only recent change here is upgrading to Windows 10. I will have to look closer as to why my

Re: [Elecraft] P3TXMON Question?

2015-08-22 Thread Hank Garretson
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: When I need to know accurate power readings my best instrument is either scope and good 50-ohm termination, or using my HP432A mw power meter. Its about 1/2 dB accurate. Isn't 1/2 dB accurate the same as 12 percent

Re: [Elecraft] P3TXMON Question?

2015-08-22 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Maybe really precise is a stretch when you're using scalar instrumentation. Considering the money we put into rigs and antennas, the ~$500 price of the DG8SAQ Vector Network Analyzer is affordable. I can remember the days when I had to have some precision attenuation measurements made on a

Re: [Elecraft] normal K3 voltage drop on TX

2015-08-22 Thread Jerry Moore
Guys, there may be new/better information out there, and I’m agreeable to be wrong. I just know that our Government spends millions/billions to over research everything. What follows is excerpts from the US Navy Electricity and Electronics Training Series, Module 4, Chapter and page is

[Elecraft] KX3 audio distorted with AGC on, fine with AGC off

2015-08-22 Thread Juhani Ahvenainen
The firmware version in my KX3 is MCU 02.33, DSP 01.33. The AGC (menu) parameters are at their default values. If you turn off AGC (menu AGC MD) the audio is fine. If you turn AGC on the audio is very clearly distorted on signals stronger than about S7. The stronger the signal the worse the

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 audio distorted with AGC on, fine with AGC off

2015-08-22 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Juhani, I've encountered this as well. It's particularly noticeable with some of the wide ESSB sig's which tend to use less compression and no doubt have a higher peak to average ratio than most other signals on the band. I've found that reducing the RF gain control to about -10 to -12, helps

[Elecraft] OT Power Measurements

2015-08-22 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Seems that I somewhat stirred the pot on this topic with my suggestion of using a Bird 43P or LP-100a.In this regard with a Bird 43 instrument, proper choice of a slug is necessary. Thus if one wishes to measure 10 watts or so then a slug of the proper full scale range, both in power and

Re: [Elecraft] normal K3 voltage drop on TX

2015-08-22 Thread Jerry Moore
Fair enough Tom :) , I've not had the pleasure of doing microwave other than fixing/troubleshooting radar (APS 180/APS 80). My Navy training didn't include soldering/crimping for radar other than cannon/other connections. It's been a long time and I don't recall the magnetron connection types as

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Anyone who has purchased a used K2 needs to take notice, lest it happen to you too. That connector is marked AUX I/O for exactly that reason, it is not a computer RS-232 connector even though it contains TXD, RXD and signal ground. As a result, one must always use the special cable that is

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Floyd Sense
Hi Don. I'm sure you're aware that the RS232 spec includes the description of voltage levels, and if you're going to refer to an interface as RS232 (as Elecraft does in many places) then you're implying that the normal RS232 signal levels will be used. A user shouldn't be required to read a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Problem Solved!!!!

2015-08-22 Thread Alan
On 08/22/2015 02:49 AM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: Glad it works, but this is strange. I always do firmware updates with the P3 in line. The one time that doesn't work is if the K3 is in manual firmware-download mode, perhaps due to a failure of a previous download. For that, the P3 should be

[Elecraft] P3 or Sub Rx?

2015-08-22 Thread ae4pb
Just wondering what DXers who have the K3/K3s think. My main mode will be CW with my objective being DX primarily. With this in mind it's been suggested that the P3 would be more useful than the SubReceiver. I'm starting to rethink that and just wondering which is the most useful for DX? I won't

Re: [Elecraft] P3 or Sub Rx?

2015-08-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jerry, If you are used to a single receiver without a panadapter, then you are used to using your ears. So, I would suggest that the SubRX would be the first choice for DX operation. You can monitor the DX frequency in one ear and the pileup in the other - tuning a bit should reveal the

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Richard W. Solomon
You say Tomato, I say Tomatoe. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 9:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair On

Re: [Elecraft] New K3s and P3 Issues

2015-08-22 Thread Mike K2MK
Menu, Cursors, knob press What you are probably experiencing is that when you first press the menu button the first thing to come up is FW Rev. You have to turn the knob counter clockwise before you see Cursors. 73, Mike K2MK N5GE wrote The K3S is great! , but now I'm having trouble setting

Re: [Elecraft] Rose's K3 Cases

2015-08-22 Thread Jerry Moore
Pictures or website? Little r if more appropriate. Jer On August 22, 2015 at 5:09 PM GRANT YOUNGMAN n...@tx.rr.com wrote: I know this is old news for a lot of you, but after a long time (ser 2090 - about) with a K3, I’m finally going to take my K3/P3 on the road. Just got a set of cases

[Elecraft] KX3 help

2015-08-22 Thread Thaire Bryant
Thank you all for your suggestions. Wayne got back to me immediately (even with a 9 hour time difference) and in two emails Had the problem diagnosed and I was able to make a repair. Issue was 2M module I had just installed. I operated with a swiss army knife and am back in business! I

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread K8AC
Hi Jim. Well, when this incident occurred, I was deep into working on an associated software problem and needed to quickly try the PC serial port directly. I agree with you comment about reading the manual and in fact I did so just a couple of weeks back when I acquired this unit.

Re: [Elecraft] P3 or Sub Rx?

2015-08-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
From here for me as a sample of one, it's a winner to actually listen to my split transmit frequency leaving the main RX tuned to the DX. Using diversity on 160/80/40 to hear really weak ones is remarkable. So I'd go with the SubRX first. But that's just MY answer, there are a thousand variations.

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Richard W. Solomon
It seems to me that using a DB-9 connector for non-RS232 uses is taking the Easy way out. There are numerous other connectors that could be used to alleviate any Misunderstanding. Not everyone goes through manuals with a fine tooth comb to locate the gotchas. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
The RJ-45 connector is now defined in the RS-232 standard, as is the DE-9 and DB-25. Of course, Ethernet also uses the RJ-45 connector, as do multi-line telephone sets. Those are *not* interchangeable functions. You would not want to plug an RJ-45 RS-232 cable into your RJ-45 ethernet router

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Floyd, I've owned and operated a pair of K2s, both of which I bought used. Elecraft makes it very clear that the DB9 connector on the K2 is NOT an RS232 interface, that it is not RS232 compliant, and that a standard RS232 cable should NOT be used. Rather, the DB9 connector provides both

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
The K3S has a RJ-45 connector for the RS-232 communications. Now that's different! Of course they supply a cable with a RJ-45 on one end and a DB-9F on the other. And then to keep everybody happy, there is what appears to be a 15 pin VGA connector that is the ACC connector to provide band

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Mickey Baker
RJ45 is commonly used for RS232C. Millions of Cisco routers and switches built over the past 20+ years use this arrangement, as do many other devices. I have a half dozen of these cables - they once were shipped with the router. Although I don't know for sure, I'll bet the pinout is the same as

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread K8AC
OK - many thanks, Don. I'll get busy looking at those things. 73, Floyd On 8/22/2015 6:33 PM, Don Wilhelm-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: Floyd, You say the voltage at U4 pin 5 is -15.4 volts, and that *may* be a perfectly valid voltage - that is a MARK. It should not be constantly that way, so

Re: [Elecraft] P3 1.34/SVGA 1.21 BETA Firmware available

2015-08-22 Thread mike
Turns out it was my Xfinity hardware firewall. Didn't know it had changed. All is good now. ;) ..mike AI6II -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-1-34-SVGA-1-21-BETA-Firmware-available-tp7597133p7606586.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at

Re: [Elecraft] P3 or Sub Rx?

2015-08-22 Thread Keith Onishi
I got the SubRX first as a must item for DXing with K3, because I have another TRX with dual receiver capability. One of my friends got P3 and has repeatedly talked about P3 how it has excellently and effectively worked on chasing DX stations. Almost one year from having got my K3, I decided to

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Not to flog this horse any further, but I direct you to page 85 of the K2 Manual where the DB-9 connector is labeled ...RS-232 and AUX I/O... . Is it RS-232 or not ??? Is it mis-labeled 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On

[Elecraft] Rose's K3 Cases

2015-08-22 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
I know this is old news for a lot of you, but after a long time (ser 2090 - about) with a K3, I’m finally going to take my K3/P3 on the road. Just got a set of cases from Rose Kopp — K3 DXpedition, and standard P3 case. They are just exquisite. If you have a K3, or are a newbie with a

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 help

2015-08-22 Thread Peter Lambert
Hello Thaire, Could you share this fix please ?. 73's Peter VK4JD -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Thaire Bryant Sent: Sunday, 23 August 2015 8:30 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 help Thank you all for your

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Phil Wheeler
Most of us built our K2/KPA100/KAT100 way back; that was the only way you could buy them, not factory-built nor factory-assembled. That did require that we apply the fine tooth comb approach to the manual, since we soldered every connection to every part. As a result I'm still, 12 years or

[Elecraft] TXMON vs Lp-100A test

2015-08-22 Thread Chester Alderman
The below are ham radio test results, NOT engineering test lab results. (This is what an inquisitive ham does on a Saturday to keep from going out in the 96 degree/84% humidity to cut grass.) I have been doing some 'informative' test on my P3 TXMON verses my LP-100A Vector wattmeter. As we all

[Elecraft] Weekly SSB Net Announcement

2015-08-22 Thread Ian Kahn
All, The weekly Elecraft SSB net will take place Sunday, August 23, at 18:00 UTC, on 14.3035 +/-. I will be net control from the suburbs north of Atlanta, GA. Hopefully band conditions will be better than they've been the last couple of weeks. Talk to everyone tomorrow. 73 de, --Ian Ian Kahn,

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,8/22/2015 5:17 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote: It seems to me that using a DB-9 connector for non-RS232 uses is taking the Easy way out. There are numerous other connectors that could be used to alleviate any Misunderstanding. I see it quite differently. The K2 was a kit, designed to be

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,8/22/2015 9:28 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote: You say Tomato, I say Tomatoe. My Dad, who was from Ipswich, MA, said tomatoe. :) 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] normal K3 voltage drop on TX

2015-08-22 Thread aj4tf
Bob, Crimped connections are superior to soldered connections in a high vibration, high stress environment. The solder will fracture after exposure to vibration and/or temperature cycles. With a proper crimp tool (not the one from Harbor Freight!) the resistance of a proper crimped connection

Re: [Elecraft] Rose's K3 Cases

2015-08-22 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
Go to Elecraft’s home page and scroll down to the bottom or .. http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/7058736_hZbo4/1/452236459_Bc3aF#!i=452236478k=W8SXP2M http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/7058736_hZbo4/1/452236459_Bc3aF#!i=452236478k=W8SXP2M Grant NQ5T On Aug 22, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Jerry Moore

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Floyd, You say the voltage at U4 pin 5 is -15.4 volts, and that *may* be a perfectly valid voltage - that is a MARK. It should not be constantly that way, so check U4 pin 12 - if it is zero, then the MAX1406 is behaving properly in response. That line originates from the MCU (Control Board

[Elecraft] K2 - KPA100 RS232 interface repair

2015-08-22 Thread K8AC
I had been using an Elecraft USB/serial cable with my recently acquired K2 and the PC communications worked properly. In debugging a software problem, it was suggested that I try using a real serial port, which I did. Unfortunately, I was unaware that I wasn't supposed to use a standard RS232

[Elecraft] New K3s and P3 Issues

2015-08-22 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
The K3S is great! , but now I'm having trouble setting up the P3. I hooked the P3 up with the cables furnished with the K3S and now I'm having some issues with the P3. 1. I didn't change on the P3 settings, except loading the latest non-beta firmware. 2. Now I can't get the U shaped cursor to

[Elecraft] W2/P3TXMON directional couplers

2015-08-22 Thread Ian
Just curious if anyone knows the insertion loss for the W2 or P3TXMON directional couplers? The manuals don't specify. Part numbers are different but they sure look the same! 73, Ian N8IK __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] normal K3 voltage drop on TX

2015-08-22 Thread Jerry Moore
Nice NASA geek type reading on connections and such. I'm sure the information is largely out of date but still has a ton of really good info. http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19750010203.pdf -Original Message- From: Elecraft

[Elecraft] F.S. or trade Pam Code Cube

2015-08-22 Thread Joe W2KJ
Howdy Gang: I have a like new Palm Code Cube in like-new condition (used only a couple of times) that I would like to trade for an Idiom Press CMOS4 keyer in like condition. The Palm Code Cube is the one that plugs into the Palm mini paddle. Or I will sell it outright for $75 shipped.