Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

[Don Wilhelm]

Ken,

Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the KPA500?
The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs to tune.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:

Thank you Don.
The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to 400 
watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands 
the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.



Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 



On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
 wrote:
Ken,

Look at your Icom 7600 documentation.  I believe the 'keyword' may be
"Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
input to
the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix them up
causing confusion - check the documentation).
Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500 AMP KEY
connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the KPA500.
That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the KAT500
needs to tune.

You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When you get
the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom, but the
basic
cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean time
does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
one and use my new toy.
> Thank youKenKc1icn



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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Neil Zampella]

FWIW .. I've got my K2/100 running FT8 right now ... just in time for 
the next RTTY contest where its a new mode :)


Neil, KN3ILZ
K2/100 SN: 7788
KX3 SN: 6596

On 12/29/2018 7:05 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 12/29/2018 12:14 PM, W2xj wrote:


It is just that too many do not seem to have fully grasped email after about 3 
plus decades.

When one cuts one's teeth on torn-tape Telex/Teleprinter systems of the
1950s/60s, e-mail is the greatest thing since sliced bread.!  And I
don't have to send a line of BELLS to get the message center to ACK
receipt of the message!

Makes me want to fire up the K2 for the next RTTY contest..  :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Phil Kane]

On 12/29/2018 6:47 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:

> I sometimes add a "save" subdirectory to a main directory, if something
> I want comes in, and I want to be sure it is never deleted, I copy it to
> the save folder.

Me too also.  Another trick is to add a space before the "save" that
puts it at the top of the stack.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Phil Kane]

On 12/29/2018 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:

> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its
> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might
> like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example
> of a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering
> to allow a specific point-of-entry.

Like Don, I have T-Bird filter my messages into subfolders - top-level
is [Elecraft] and then to K2, K3, KPA, and KX.  K2 is my default.  Makes
it very easy to deal with.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[W2xj]

Look back to the beginning of this thread. There are many on point responses. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> What is the “Subject” of this thread. 
> 
> I’m looking for the one about someone wanting to unsubscribe a SK. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z)  wrote:
>> 
>> I would leave the list if it went to a message board, sorting would be 
>> impossible, and given the "random walk" this list allows with regards to 
>> subject, sorting is needed.
>> 
>> 73s and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL OOC for Oregon
>> 
>>> On 12/29/18 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>>> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
>>> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might 
>>> like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example of 
>>> a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering to 
>>> allow a specific point-of-entry.
>>> ...robert
 On 12/29/2018 12:47, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Barry,
 
 Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator
 about that problem.
 The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list
 from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.
 
 Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on
 those things.
 I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
> On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:
> I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are plenty of
> posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered
> to the
> correct subgroup.
> 
> I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from
> email
> to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us
> who
> don't own every Elecraft product.
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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Nr4c]

What is the “Subject” of this thread. 

I’m looking for the one about someone wanting to unsubscribe a SK. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 29, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z)  wrote:
> 
> I would leave the list if it went to a message board, sorting would be 
> impossible, and given the "random walk" this list allows with regards to 
> subject, sorting is needed.
> 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL OOC for Oregon
> 
>> On 12/29/18 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
>> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might 
>> like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example of a 
>> wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering to allow 
>> a specific point-of-entry.
>> ...robert
>>> On 12/29/2018 12:47, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Barry,
>>> 
>>> Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator
>>> about that problem.
>>> The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list
>>> from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.
>>> 
>>> Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on
>>> those things.
>>> I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
 On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:
 I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are plenty of
 posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered
 to the
 correct subgroup.
 
 I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from
 email
 to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us
 who
 don't own every Elecraft product.
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

[Ken B via Elecraft]

Thank you Don.  The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 
to 400 watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands the 
kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp. 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:  
 Ken,

Look at your Icom 7600 documentation.  I believe the 'keyword' may be 
"Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an input to 
the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix them up 
causing confusion - check the documentation).
Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500 AMP KEY 
connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the KPA500.
That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the KAT500 
needs to tune.

You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling.  When you get 
the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom, but the basic 
cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
> Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the accessory cable 
> which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500. Elecraft is sending one but it 
> might take a week. In the mean time does anyone have the accessory pin outs 
> to rca plug so i can make one and use my new toy.
> Thank youKenKc1icn
  
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Yes,  I worked in the corporate world for some 30+ years.   I'm familiar 
with corporate security policy.   However, this is ham radio.  It is a 
hobby.  And the biggest bonus of allI'm retired therefore I 
can't be fired.   I no longer have to concern myself with some measly 
back stabbing Vice President working his way up the Corporate ladder.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 12/29/2018 5:02 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce Schneier, 
recommend writing your passwords down and keeping the list in a safe 
place. We are quite good at securing pieces of paper, like currency, 
and things learned under NDA. We are much poorer at securing things 
accessed through the Internet or resident on our computers.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, w...@w2xj.net (W2xj) wrote:

Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some 
companies that would be cause for termination.

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  
wrote:


I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains 
all of the USER
and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down 
the current password for that account.   And I do change passwords 
frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google 
or any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book 
never forgets a

password nor does it ever crash.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[W2xj]

Actually that is not what is usually done. Biometrics and tokens are quite 
common. No matter how you handle them, passwords are dangerous. Mine are 
encrypted on my machines and accessed via biometrics. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yet putting all your passwords in a globally accessible password manager 
> seems to be acceptable to most people, if not everyone.
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> 73 -- Lynn
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 4:04 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down 
>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost 
>> pension and a major followup security investigation.
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

   61% of 2018 has had a spotless sun.  I think this the first time 
above 60% all year.  Scanning the list on spaceweather.com we have to go 
back to 2009 for a more blank year.  2008 and 2009 were at the bottom of 
the previous cycle.  This means at least another year with few 
sunspots.  Luckily that is not the only way to get ions from there to 
here.  We can test that hypothesis tomorrow.


   There were a few snow flakes the day after Christmas.  They did not 
hit the ground.  However, there has been a lot of precipitation.  The 
birds appreciate any leftovers I have for them.  Sometimes I have to 
tell them to get out of the way they are so eager.  Even the Steller's 
jays are getting closer.  They are so skittish I've seen them jump when 
a junco flies by so they must be hungry.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday  (2 PM PST Sunday)
 7047 kHz at z Monday  (4 PM PST Sunday)

73,

   Kevin. KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

Jim,
I sometimes add a "save" subdirectory to a main directory, if something 
I want comes in, and I want to be sure it is never deleted, I copy it to 
the save folder.


I might look into the auto delete thing I mentioned upthread.

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 12/29/18 5:10 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
Yes. I read more than two dozen email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes 
it all very easy. Every reflector has its own mailbox (that shows up as 
a folder), and I occasionally add a folder for special discussions (like 
FD, county expeditions, tech projects). Those special emails get 
hand-sorted.


73, Jim K9YC

On 12/29/2018 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one 
might like.



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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

I would leave the list if it went to a message board, sorting would be 
impossible, and given the "random walk" this list allows with regards to 
subject, sorting is needed.


73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 12/29/18 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might 
like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example 
of a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering 
to allow a specific point-of-entry.


...robert

On 12/29/2018 12:47, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Barry,

Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator
about that problem.
The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list
from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.

Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on
those things.
I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:
I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are 
plenty of

posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered
to the
correct subgroup.

I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from
email
to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us
who
don't own every Elecraft product.

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

Don,
That is exactly how I do it, and how long I take to trim...  I believe 
you can automate that process using the folder properties...  I tend to 
stay away from auto trimming, but I think it could be done... 
Thunderbird is wonderful...  My only carp is that it won't play a sound 
based on the filters...


73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 12/29/18 4:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

Right you are!

My email is sorted automatically when it is received (I use Thunderbird 
although other email clients have similar capability).  I put it into 
separate folders with the filters based on something in the subject 
line.  For instance, I use a filter to place all email containing 
[Elecraft] into my Elecraft folder - that gets it out of my Inbox and 
into a folder that could be considered as my own "Elecraft Digest".
I can then read the posts one at a time and delete those not of 
interest, reply to those I want to comment on, or save for future 
reference.  Then I can do a SEARCH if I want to see posts referencing a 
particular topic (or individual).

It gives me a lot of flexibility.

Once a year or so, I trim off all posts older than a year old so the 
folder does not get too big.  I figure if I have not needed anything in 
over a year, I can delete it.


The filtering and searching tools provided by modern email clients give 
one a lot of capability.  It takes a bit of thought to set it up, but 
makes email quite sane and manageable once set up for your needs and 
desires.


Down with the bulletin boards, I can't find anything of value in those!
Nabble is almost as bad, and I don't use it unless I get a link of 
interest, but even then I usually don't find anything valuable there.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 7:05 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 12/29/2018 12:14 PM, W2xj wrote:

It is just that too many do not seem to have fully grasped email 
after about 3 plus decades.


When one cuts one's teeth on torn-tape Telex/Teleprinter systems of the
1950s/60s, e-mail is the greatest thing since sliced bread.!  And I
don't have to send a line of BELLS to get the message center to ACK
receipt of the message!

Makes me want to fire up the K2 for the next RTTY contest..  :)


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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Michael Blake via Elecraft]

Walter, I also like groups.io very much. I suspect that the Elecraft reflector 
was intended to be more of a tech support tool and not a general rag chew 
place. The Elecraft reflector is the only non groups.io forum that I 
participate in. They work well with both direct email and a searchable forum. 

73 - Mike - K9JRI

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 20:38, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> groups.io  provides excellent email list management with a 
> good message board. It also supports subgroups, which can be handy. The 
> hashtag feature would be really nice for tagging K2, K3, KX3, etc.
> 
> I’ve moved all the groups I manage to that system. The North America SOTA 
> group is there: https://nasota.groups.io/g/main 
> 
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
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> 
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. I read more than two dozen email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes it 
>> all very easy. Every reflector has its own mailbox (that shows up as a 
>> folder), and I occasionally add a folder for special discussions (like FD, 
>> county expeditions, tech projects). Those special emails get hand-sorted.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
>>> On 12/29/2018 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>>> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
>>> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might 
>>> like.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Yet putting all your passwords in a globally accessible password manager 
seems to be acceptable to most people, if not everyone.


Go figure.

73 -- Lynn

On 12/29/2018 4:04 PM, W2xj wrote:

Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords 
will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a 
major followup security investigation.

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

I've suggested POPfile, which does naive bayesian filtering -- which is 
almost magical.


Yes, Thunderbird can do a great job, but it won't filter off topic, and 
you have to do a lot of work.


With POPfile, you classify a few messages (KX3, K3S, Antenna, Digital 
Modes, whatever) and the filter "scores" the words from the messages you 
classified, and uses the score to put the message where it belongs.


If it gets one wrong, you reclassify it, and the filter improves.

It does *not* rely on posters to put rational subjects, and it deals 
with topic drift automatically.


POPfile works with real mail clients (with their awesome search capability).

73 -- Lynn

On 12/29/2018 4:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
The filtering and searching tools provided by modern email clients give 
one a lot of capability.  It takes a bit of thought to set it up, but 
makes email quite sane and manageable once set up for your needs and 
desires.

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Walter Underwood]

groups.io  provides excellent email list management with a 
good message board. It also supports subgroups, which can be handy. The hashtag 
feature would be really nice for tagging K2, K3, KX3, etc.

I’ve moved all the groups I manage to that system. The North America SOTA group 
is there: https://nasota.groups.io/g/main 

wunder
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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I read more than two dozen email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes it 
> all very easy. Every reflector has its own mailbox (that shows up as a 
> folder), and I occasionally add a folder for special discussions (like FD, 
> county expeditions, tech projects). Those special emails get hand-sorted.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> On 12/29/2018 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>> I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
>> filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might like.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Barry]

I find it mind boggling that you guys like email for this and find it hard to
search a message board.  Have you ever tried a well-set up vBulletin board? 
It's S much easier.  But I'm terribly outvoted here, so this is my last
email on this subject.

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Jim Brown]

Yes. I read more than two dozen email reflectors, and Thunderbird makes 
it all very easy. Every reflector has its own mailbox (that shows up as 
a folder), and I occasionally add a folder for special discussions (like 
FD, county expeditions, tech projects). Those special emails get 
hand-sorted.


73, Jim K9YC

On 12/29/2018 5:00 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one 
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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Robert G Strickland]

I'm with Don on this one. I use Mozilla Thunderbird for email, and its 
filters allow just about any degree and depth of sorting that one might 
like. Message boards are a chore, IMHO. The Elecraft list is an example 
of a wide breadth of topics that virtually demand some sort of filtering 
to allow a specific point-of-entry.


...robert

On 12/29/2018 12:47, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Barry,

Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator
about that problem.
The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list
from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.

Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on
those things.
I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:

I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are plenty of
posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered
to the
correct subgroup.

I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from
email
to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us
who
don't own every Elecraft product.

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: Box of 10 ARRL Handbooks 1953-1986

[MaverickNH]

Only feeds those eHAM post replies to now say:”You should read the ARRL
Handbook from 1953 forward before asking such questions on the forum.”

That, and get a EE degree too. These newbies - sheesh! ;-)

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Don Wilhelm]

Phil,

Right you are!

My email is sorted automatically when it is received (I use Thunderbird 
although other email clients have similar capability).  I put it into 
separate folders with the filters based on something in the subject 
line.  For instance, I use a filter to place all email containing 
[Elecraft] into my Elecraft folder - that gets it out of my Inbox and 
into a folder that could be considered as my own "Elecraft Digest".
I can then read the posts one at a time and delete those not of 
interest, reply to those I want to comment on, or save for future 
reference.  Then I can do a SEARCH if I want to see posts referencing a 
particular topic (or individual).

It gives me a lot of flexibility.

Once a year or so, I trim off all posts older than a year old so the 
folder does not get too big.  I figure if I have not needed anything in 
over a year, I can delete it.


The filtering and searching tools provided by modern email clients give 
one a lot of capability.  It takes a bit of thought to set it up, but 
makes email quite sane and manageable once set up for your needs and 
desires.


Down with the bulletin boards, I can't find anything of value in those!
Nabble is almost as bad, and I don't use it unless I get a link of 
interest, but even then I usually don't find anything valuable there.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 7:05 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 12/29/2018 12:14 PM, W2xj wrote:


It is just that too many do not seem to have fully grasped email after about 3 
plus decades.


When one cuts one's teeth on torn-tape Telex/Teleprinter systems of the
1950s/60s, e-mail is the greatest thing since sliced bread.!  And I
don't have to send a line of BELLS to get the message center to ACK
receipt of the message!

Makes me want to fire up the K2 for the next RTTY contest..  :)


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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Phil Kane]

On 12/29/2018 12:14 PM, W2xj wrote:

> It is just that too many do not seem to have fully grasped email after about 
> 3 plus decades. 

When one cuts one's teeth on torn-tape Telex/Teleprinter systems of the
1950s/60s, e-mail is the greatest thing since sliced bread.!  And I
don't have to send a line of BELLS to get the message center to ACK
receipt of the message!

Makes me want to fire up the K2 for the next RTTY contest..  :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[W2xj]

Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords 
will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a 
major followup security investigation. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 6:02 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce Schneier, recommend 
> writing your passwords down and keeping the list in a safe place. We are 
> quite good at securing pieces of paper, like currency, and things learned 
> under NDA. We are much poorer at securing things accessed through the 
> Internet or resident on our computers.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
>> On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, w...@w2xj.net (W2xj) wrote:
>> 
>> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies 
>> that would be cause for termination.
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of 
>>> the USER
>> and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is designated 
>> for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the current 
>> password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently. I do 
>> not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to 
>> "remember" my passwords.
>>> 
>>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
>>> forgets a
>> password nor does it ever crash.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Fred Jensen]

However, should your computer become compromised, your COMPOSITION 
notebook is then available to the thief.  I do the same thing in a text 
file but then encrypt the file and delete the plain text file.  My home 
brew encryption program will open the file and display the contents, and 
allow me to change them, however when it saves the file, it is 
re-encrypted.  I wouldn't recommend storing such data in clear text on 
the computer.


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/29/2018 10:30 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all 
of the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each 
page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to 
write down the current password for that account.   And I do change 
passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I 
allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
forgets a password nor does it ever crash.


73

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rechargeable Batteries

[Phil Kane]

On 12/28/2018 8:45 PM, David Olean wrote:

> I had a pair of huge lead acid AGM batteries die on me after a bit over
> six years of very light use in a solar panel and battery system.

Six years on a pair of big AGMs?  You are lucky - I usually get about
4-5 years on a pair in float service.  Chalk that up to insurance
against power outages which are very rare here, but then again, one does
not insure against  events that are not rare.

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Bill Frantz]

Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce 
Schneier, recommend writing your passwords down and keeping the 
list in a safe place. We are quite good at securing pieces of 
paper, like currency, and things learned under NDA. We are much 
poorer at securing things accessed through the Internet or 
resident on our computers.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, w...@w2xj.net (W2xj) wrote:

Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some 
companies that would be cause for termination.

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:

I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of the 
USER
and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write 
down the current password for that account.   And I do change 
passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor 
do I allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets a

password nor does it ever crash.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Phil Kane]

On 12/29/2018 3:03 AM, Barry wrote:

> I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from email
> to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us who
> don't own every Elecraft product.

"Message board"??   Do you really want to go back to the 1980s BBS days?
Using an e-mail system that downloads to my computer "while the city
sleeps" and sorts them by topic. all untouched by human brain, is much
easier for me.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

[Rick Bates (WA6NHC)]

50-70 watts out is fine, that will provide adequate drive for most amps to run 
their full rated power out.  If you don’t want that much, turn it down. 

Rick WA6NHC

Smell Czech correction happen

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Bill Rowlett  wrote:
> 
> 25 watts out max.
> 
> KC4IM  Bill
> 
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Doug Millar via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I am going out on a limb. I have been trying to imagine an FT8 all in 
>> one radio. How about this- A radio that is 6 by 10" or so with a screen that 
>> lays flat on top and swivels up for use. Mouse but only and an optional 
>> keyboard since the programs are primarily mouse driven. The computer 
>> (raspberry pi et al.)  inside the radio box. 50watts output, 160-6m and all 
>> mode. A jack for an external monitor would be good. This would make a very 
>> portable digital radio that only needs an antenna, dc, and a mouse or track 
>> pad to make it work, but also have the ability to expand for more fixed use. 
>>What do you think? 
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[Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[john]

I suggested that 11 posts ago:
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2018-December/262577.html
If the SK's email account no longer exists to receive the password than
unsubscribing is not an issue except for the bounced emails which I imagine
the list manager somehow addresses. 

John KK9A


Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Go to: 

Near the bottom of that page is a button that says "unsubscribe or edit 
options" -- put the E-Mail address to be removed there.

That will send an E-Mail with a link.

Click on the link and the address will be removed.  A password probably 
isn't necessary (it's optional, I don't have one).

It's secure because someone has to receive the E-Mail.

73 -- Lynn

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Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

[Bill Rowlett]

25 watts out max.

KC4IM  Bill


> On Dec 29, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Doug Millar via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I am going out on a limb. I have been trying to imagine an FT8 all in one 
> radio. How about this- A radio that is 6 by 10" or so with a screen that lays 
> flat on top and swivels up for use. Mouse but only and an optional keyboard 
> since the programs are primarily mouse driven. The computer (raspberry pi et 
> al.)  inside the radio box. 50watts output, 160-6m and all mode. A jack for 
> an external monitor would be good. This would make a very portable digital 
> radio that only needs an antenna, dc, and a mouse or track pad to make it 
> work, but also have the ability to expand for more fixed use. 
> What do you think? 
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Re: [Elecraft] USB RTS

[John_N1JM]

This may apply you:

PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: Some PC applications can control PTT
and KEY at the K3S via the RTS/DTR signals of the USB port. However, use of
these signals may also allow the PC’s USB port initialization to
unexpectedly activate transmit at the K3S. This can happen if the computer
is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is
now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the
K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency.
To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select
"USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications
that use PTT- KEY via USB but never send commands may require "UNSAFE" mode.
In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before
the K3S.

I have my K3s in USB.SAFE

John N1JM



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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Pretty sure this will work.

Go to: 

Near the bottom of that page is a button that says "unsubscribe or edit 
options" -- put the E-Mail address to be removed there.


That will send an E-Mail with a link.

Click on the link and the address will be removed.  A password probably 
isn't necessary (it's optional, I don't have one).


It's secure because someone has to receive the E-Mail.

73 -- Lynn
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Re: [Elecraft] USB RTS

[John_N1JM]

Have you tried this?  Go to CONFIG:PTT-KEY
It's on page 67 of my manual.

73, John N1JM



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[Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

[Doug Millar via Elecraft]

Ok, I am going out on a limb. I have been trying to imagine an FT8 all in one 
radio. How about this- A radio that is 6 by 10" or so with a screen that lays 
flat on top and swivels up for use. Mouse but only and an optional keyboard 
since the programs are primarily mouse driven. The computer (raspberry pi et 
al.)  inside the radio box. 50watts output, 160-6m and all mode. A jack for an 
external monitor would be good. This would make a very portable digital radio 
that only needs an antenna, dc, and a mouse or track pad to make it work, but 
also have the ability to expand for more fixed use. 
    What do you think? 
  61, Doug K6JEY
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[W2xj]

I use biometrics. Facial on my iPhone and fingerprint on my iPad until I 
upgrade to the Pro. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> I use a program called Password Keeper.  I don't know if it is current nor 
> the best, but it works for me.  It is password protected (so you do have to 
> remember one password), and the data file is encripted.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 1:51 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies 
>> that would be cause for termination.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of 
>>> the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
>>> designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the 
>>> current password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently.  
>>>I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other 
>>> application to "remember" my passwords.
>>> 
>>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
>>> forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[W2xj]

It is just that too many do not seem to have fully grasped email after about 3 
plus decades. They seem to be content with (and sometimes confused by) HTML.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are lots of great tools to sort E-Mail.  I've mentioned them before.
> 
> What I hate about message boards: someone will sign in, leave question, 
> people will jump in to solve the problem -- and the person asking may never 
> return to the board.
> 
> Message Boards (Forums, whatever) are a pull technology.  You have to go to 
> the site to participate.  E-Mail is a push.
> 
> If you tire of sorting manually look into POPfile.  I know it's labelled as a 
> spam filter, but it can easily sort the K3S and KPA-1500 posts from the 
> KX2/KX3 posts, separate antenna discussions into one folder, digital modes to 
> another folder, CW to a folder, etc.
> 
> 73 -- Lynn
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 4:47 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Please *don't* switch to a message board!
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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

There are lots of great tools to sort E-Mail.  I've mentioned them before.

What I hate about message boards: someone will sign in, leave question, 
people will jump in to solve the problem -- and the person asking may 
never return to the board.


Message Boards (Forums, whatever) are a pull technology.  You have to go 
to the site to participate.  E-Mail is a push.


If you tire of sorting manually look into POPfile.  I know it's labelled 
as a spam filter, but it can easily sort the K3S and KPA-1500 posts from 
the KX2/KX3 posts, separate antenna discussions into one folder, digital 
modes to another folder, CW to a folder, etc.


73 -- Lynn

On 12/29/2018 4:47 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Please *don't* switch to a message board!

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Don Wilhelm]

I use a program called Password Keeper.  I don't know if it is current 
nor the best, but it works for me.  It is password protected (so you do 
have to remember one password), and the data file is encripted.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 1:51 PM, W2xj wrote:

Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that 
would be cause for termination.

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:

I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of the USER and PASSWORD 
information for every account I use. Each page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of 
room to write down the current password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently.   
  I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to 
"remember" my passwords.

It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets 
a password nor does it ever crash.

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[Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[John Harper]

Is your address at QRZ.com valid? Asking for a friend...

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com


>I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of
>the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[W2xj]

Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that 
would be cause for termination. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of the 
> USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
> designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the 
> current password for that account.   And I do change passwords frequently.
>  I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other 
> application to "remember" my passwords.
> 
> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
> forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 12:16 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone 
>> else.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>>> 
>>> John KK9A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> N4CW wrote
>>> 
>>> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
>>> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
>>> Thanks, Bert N4CW
>>> 
>>> ---
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[W2xj]

But you have to know the challenge answer to get a password (usually a 
temporary one).

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM,   wrote:
> 
> While I have not tried it, I cannot imagine that it is difficult to figure
> out a password that is emailed to you.
> 
> John 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:16 PM
> To: j...@kk9a.com
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?
> 
> If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone
> else.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> 
>> N4CW wrote
>> 
>> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
>> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
>> Thanks, Bert N4CW
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[john]

While I have not tried it, I cannot imagine that it is difficult to figure
out a password that is emailed to you.

John 

-Original Message-
From: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:16 PM
To: j...@kk9a.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone
else.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> N4CW wrote
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
> ---
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of 
the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is 
designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the 
current password for that account.   And I do change passwords 
frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or 
any other application to "remember" my passwords.


It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never 
forgets a password nor does it ever crash.


73

Bob, K4TAX



On 12/29/2018 12:16 PM, W2xj wrote:

If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone 
else.

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:

Did either of you try the password reminder option?
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft

John KK9A


N4CW wrote

How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
Thanks, Bert N4CW

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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[Pete Lascell]

Does your mail handler allow you to automaticly DELETE any messages coming from 
a specific address ?  

Pete W4WWQ 

- Original Message -
From: hawley, charles j jr 
To: brian 
Cc: 
Sent: 12/29/2018 1:10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?


Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email 
account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:29 AM, brian  wrote:
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> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way to 
> know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
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From: hawley, charles j jr 
To: brian 
Cc: 
Sent: 12/29/2018 1:10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?


Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email 
account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:29 AM, brian  wrote:
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way to 
> know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[W2xj]

If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone 
else.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> N4CW wrote
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
> ---
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[hawley, charles j jr]

Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email 
account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:29 AM, brian  wrote:
> 
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way to 
> know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[john]

Did either of you try the password reminder option?
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft

John KK9A


N4CW wrote

How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
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[Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

[brian]

How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way 
to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[W2xj]

Wholehearted agree. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Tim McDonough N9PUZ  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 6:47 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on those 
>> things.
>> I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
> 
> I'll second that plea! I hate message boards. Too hard to find past topics, 
> follow threads, etc. With an email list I suck down all the messages and my 
> email client (Thunderbird) happily sorts them according to my filters with no 
> effort on my part.
> 
> Tim N9PUZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Ditto on those points. Yes, Thunderbird is a excellent application.  Very easy, 
very powerful and free.  

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Tim McDonough N9PUZ  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/29/2018 6:47 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on those 
>> things.
>> I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
> 
> I'll second that plea! I hate message boards. Too hard to find past topics, 
> follow threads, etc. With an email list I suck down all the messages and my 
> email client (Thunderbird) happily sorts them according to my filters with no 
> effort on my part.
> 
> Tim N9PUZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Tim McDonough N9PUZ]

On 12/29/2018 6:47 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on 
those things.

I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.

73,
Don W3FPR


I'll second that plea! I hate message boards. Too hard to find past 
topics, follow threads, etc. With an email list I suck down all the 
messages and my email client (Thunderbird) happily sorts them according 
to my filters with no effort on my part.


Tim N9PUZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 176, Issue 32

[Eric - Gmail]

Apologies for the mis-sent email!

I *meant* to send it to the original sender.

...and to think, I'm the administrator of a large list -- I should have 
been more careful.


73,
Eric W3DQ
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To: "Eric - Gmail" ; 
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Sent: 12/29/2018 11:25:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 176, Issue 32


Eric,

It would be much more clear what you are interested in if you would trim to the 
item of interest rather than copying the entire digest.
I am not the moderator, but I could not make heads nor tails out of your 
posting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 11:08 AM, Eric - Gmail wrote:

I'm intertested in the P3.

Eric W3DQ



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[Elecraft] RadioSet-Go KX2 Retrofit

[Chuck Guenther]

Received s/n 0007 recently.  I like it!

See: https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/14127

73 & Happy New Year to Elecrafters,

Chuck Guenther  NI0C
KX1, KX2, K3, P3

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 176, Issue 32

[Don Wilhelm]

Eric,

It would be much more clear what you are interested in if you would trim 
to the item of interest rather than copying the entire digest.
I am not the moderator, but I could not make heads nor tails out of your 
posting.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 11:08 AM, Eric - Gmail wrote:

I'm intertested in the P3.

Eric W3DQ


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 176, Issue 32

[Eric - Gmail]

I'm intertested in the P3.

Eric W3DQ

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Subject: Elecraft Digest, Vol 176, Issue 32


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   1. Re: KX3 battery problems (Gwen Patton)
   2. Re: KX3 battery problems (k...@roadrunner.com)
   3. Re: KX3 battery problems (Gwen Patton)
   4. Re: Off-topic, but I need help. (John_N1JM)
   5. KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable (Ken B)
   6. Re: KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable (Don Wilhelm)
   7. KX3 Rechargeable Batteries (eric norris)
   8. [K2] Proper QSK delay for use with KPA500? (Eric Norris)
   9. [K2] Proper QSK delay for use with KPA500? (Eric Norris)
  10. Re: [K2] Proper QSK delay for use with KPA500? (Don Wilhelm)
  11. Re: KX3 Rechargeable Batteries (Walter Underwood)
  12. Re: KX3 battery problems (Robin Kiszka)
  13. Re: KX3 Rechargeable Batteries (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
  14. Re: KX3 Rechargeable Batteries (K9MA)
  15. Re: K3s SSB transmitting bandwidth? (Bill Frantz)
  16. Purchase k3 filter (Norman)
  17. Re: KX3 battery problems (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
  18. Re: KX3 Rechargeable Batteries (Jim Brown)
  19. For Sale K3S/P3 (John_N1JM)
  20. 25% off KE7X books (Cady, Fred)
  21. K3s SSB transmitting bandwidth? (Andy Durbin)
  22. Re: KX3 Rechargeable Batteries (David Olean)
  23. KX3 batteries (Eric Norris)
  24. Re: Off-topic, but I need help. (Barry)
  25. Re: Off-topic, but I need help. (Don Wilhelm)
  26. Re: KX3 batteries (Bob N3MNT)
  27. Re: KX3 batteries (Charlie T)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:17:22 -0500
From: Gwen Patton 
To: donw...@embarqmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Robin Kiszka 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 battery problems
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

If they are NiMH cells, did you set the minimum voltage in the menu to
8.5v? That might be what's shutting it off.

Still might be a good idea to buy new cells.

Gwen NG3P


On Thu, Dec 27, 2018, 6:54 PM Don Wilhelm 
 Robin,

 Can I assume those rechargable batteries are NiMH type?  While they are
 good, they do have a lifetime that is expressed in number of recharge
 cycles.  Personal experience has shown that the life of such batteries
 is in the vicinity of 3 to 4 years.

 It is often that the no-load voltage of a battery is OK, but as soon as
 you draw any current, it goes "belly up".  You can monitor the voltage
 of the pack with the KX3 alternate VFO B display.  Try to see the
 voltage after the KX3 shuts off.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 12/27/2018 4:40 PM, Robin Kiszka wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Some time ago I purchased a KX3.
 > It is fitted with the battery pack and I have always used rechargeable AA
 > cells.
 >
 > I have the following situation...
 >
 > The radio turns on but after 2 seconds shuts down.
 > I have checked all cells and they are good 1.18 V.
 > The radio works fine when standard non-rechargeable cells are used.
 > The radio also works fine when using a PSU.
 > I have ensured the menu allows a minimum battery level of 8V, but it
 makes
 > no difference. The radio still shuts down.
 > When I kept the BAND- and AUTO TUNE buttons pressed, I get a blank
 display
 > with MC LTU on it ?
 >
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:31:36 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 battery problems
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I am finding the same with my Eneloop NiMH batteries.  It seems they are 
showing diminished performance after three years in my KX3.  This could be a 
good thing as I can replace them with a higher A/hr set of batteries.  Until 
then I will run them into the ground.

72

Howard Kraus, K2UD
 Don Wilhelm  wrote:

 Robin,

 Can I assume those rechargable batteries are NiMH type?  While they are
 good, they do have a lifetime that is expressed in number of recharge
 cycles.  Personal experience has shown that the life of 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 batteries

[Charlie T]

If that charge cycle theory floating around were true, an average car
battery wouldn't make it three years in a commuter vehicle.
Not sure I buy into that as my plain old (cheap)  #24 car batteries I use
with a solar charger typically give me over 10 years of service.

73, Charlie k3ICH




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Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:32 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 batteries

I would guess that max # of charge cycles never comes into play in most Ham
Radio related battery failures.  It is more than likely that it is simply
age or abuse.  Over the years I doubt if 5% of my battery failures were due
to exceeding the number of charge cycles.  



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 batteries

[Bob N3MNT]

I would guess that max # of charge cycles never comes into play in most Ham
Radio related battery failures.  It is more than likely that it is simply
age or abuse.  Over the years I doubt if 5% of my battery failures were due
to exceeding the number of charge cycles.  



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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Don Wilhelm]

Barry,

Nabble is not controlled by Elecraft, contact the Nabble administrator 
about that problem.
The only email group that Elecraft controls is the Elecraft email list 
from elecraft at mailman dot qth dot net.


Please *don't* switch to a message board!  I can't find anything on 
those things.

I have my filters all set up for the Elecraft reflector.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 6:03 AM, Barry wrote:

I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are plenty of
posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered to the
correct subgroup.

I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from email
to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us who
don't own every Elecraft product.

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Re: [Elecraft] Off-topic, but I need help.

[Barry]

I think there's something more broken with Nabble, as there are plenty of
posts that include the model number in the title that aren't filtered to the
correct subgroup.

I really wish management would join the 21st century and switch from email
to a message board to eliminate all the useless emails for those of us who
don't own every Elecraft product.

Barry, temporarily LU/W2UP



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